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No ones talking about an end to gun violence Mark. I’m talking about common sense gun legislation that would MITIGATE these terrible tragedies, and save lives. Especially our children’s.

By that logic then we should ban alcohol and cars because of drunk drivers. Cars don't need to be able to go over 90mph. Golf carts only from now on.

Maybe the focus should be on good mental health, good morals and good parenting. Not one of these shooters were mentally stable.
 

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The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The wording is perfectly clear, one has to be a contortionist to miss it.

Furthermore, what does a militia consist of? citizens

The founding fathers intention was to enable the people to protect themselves from tyranny. Thomas Jefferson made this perfectly clear in much of his writings, including the Virginia Constitution. Guns preserve freedom, still true to this day.

Does anybody really think criminals will obey the laws? Seriously? That's about as dumb as it comes. Take weapons away from law abiding citizens, the only people that will be armed is government and criminals.

I'm not opposed to common sense regulations. Background checks, criminal and mental health issues, and a waiting period. But the real solution is education, families, truth, and stopping all the hate mongering rhetoric practiced by our politicians and our media. They are pure scum.

I will also add that this is another bastardization of our constitution by the left. The founders clearly intended to give the federal government limited authority. But modern day liberals have taken the expression "general welfare" and changed it's meaning so that they can control everything and everyone from DC. Totally against the founders' intentions

They only read the first amendment as separation of church and state as they ignore the part about government making no laws to prevent the free exercise of religion.

They espouse legislation from the bench, also totally in opposition to the founders' design. But by appointing activist judges, they avoid the legislative process and then use their criminal, corrupt, colluding media to carry their water for them. So wrong, on so many levels

WE ARE EITHER A NATION OF LAWS, OR WE'RE NOT. PS: That's what a real conservative is all about

Now you talkin BigWill....Stick with these kinds of posts pal
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Gun Rights Groups Respond to Senators’ Bipartisan Gun Control Framework​



The proposal is also supported by John Cornyn (R-TX), Roy Blunt (R-MO), Richard Burr (R-NC), Bill Cassidy (R-LA) Susan Collins (R-ME), Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Rob Portman (R-OH), Mitt Romney (R-UT), Thom Tillis (R-NC) and Pat Toomey (R-PA).
 

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I just want to hear all sides of the story and genuinely curious to hear different points of view, it's a big subject and I'm torn, I grew up with guns/military man and love all about it but this issue with these shootings is getting out of hand. Are guns the problem? I don't think so, that being said, I do think we allow ANYONE to have them and well, I'm sick and tired of seeing kids die for nothing. Know what I mean?
Guns have always been a part of American life. I've always been pro gun and felt safe having a gun in the house. But we have to face facts. Kids are dying, mass shootings everywhere. Time to give up our love for guns.

Look at countries with strict gun controls. Constant mass shootings are unheard of.

AT THE VERY LEAST, high capacity magazines gotta go.

Guns are seldom used as self defense even if bought for that purpose.

Legally owned guns are often stolen by criminals for the purpose of a crime.

Think about how many arguments, road rage incidents, fights at the supermarket parking lot etc etc turn into deaths because one or more parties had a gun. Simple arguments, fist fights turn into shootings and death.

Armed civilians are unlikely to stop crimes and are more likely to make dangerous situations, including mass shootings, more deadly.

''None of the 62 mass shootings between 1982 and 2012 was stopped by an armed civilian. Gun rights activists regularly state that a 2002 mass shooting at the Appalachian School of Law in Virginia was stopped by armed students, but those students were current and former law enforcement officers and the killer was out of bullets when subdued. Other mass shootings often held up as examples of armed citizens being able to stop mass shootings involved law enforcement or military personnel and/or the shooter had stopped shooting before being subdued, such as a 1997 high school shooting in Pearl, MS; a 1998 middle school dance shooting in Edinboro, PA; a 2007 church shooting in Colorado Springs, CO; and a 2008 bar shooting in Winnemucca, NV. Jeffrey Voccola, Assistant Professor of Writing at Kutztown University, notes, “The average gun owner, no matter how responsible, is not trained in law enforcement or on how to handle life-threatening situations, so in most cases, if a threat occurs, increasing the number of guns only creates a more volatile and dangerous situation.”

 

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Guns have got to go and it's funny that the conservatives always want to keep the guns while far right domestic terrorist and white supremacists keep shooting up places. The school shootings weren't enough for America to wake up either. That's right folks! Until one of your kids dies in a school shooting from a pissed off spoiled brat kid with daddy's automatic that he stole, you probably just won't get it.

Remember in Norway when 77 people died from a far right wing attacker? Norway woke up pretty fast. So did Britain and other countries. It's just America that won't let go and it's mostly the right wingers who are ok with kids dying and people getting shot up, as long as they get to keep their guns. Oh and they will spin the narrative so much that even they can't untangle themselves out of their own nonsense and propaganda about why guns are good LOL. It's downright evil.

GUNS HAVE GOT TO GO.

Look at Britain. They smartened up and they don't see nearly the chaos due to guns that we do. Not even close.

Guns will go. Mark my words. We cavemen that are Americans in terms of gun control will catch up with other civilized countries. It's just a matter of how many more innocent kids/people die before it happens. And how much more lying and deflecting the republicunts are willing to do to keep the guns. All in vain though. Guns will go. Sooner or later. Otherwise what we have going on in this country is not sustainable.
 

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The fact that Columbine didn't wake America up and wake up the conscience of the evil manipulative republicunts shows the state of this country and our mindsets.

Until one of these weird but scary and violent people walk into YOUR kids' school, campus or workplace and shoots the place up with automatics or whatever and you lose loved ones who had NO CHANCE AGAINST GUNS, until then, you just won't get it.

Guns kill. And they kill a lot of people very fast. People kill not guns? Try telling that to those kids or people in the church etc when they had no chance against the bullets.

On a much smaller scale, how many road ragers or morons fighting over a parking spot won't kill if they weren't packing a legal concealed gun? Lots! Worst case they get into a fist fight. Nobody is carrying around a kitchen knife when they drive around or shop at the mall, and even if they did, you at least have a shot (pun intended, I'm sorry, not funny)

NRA defenders will deflect, deny, divert and twist stats, facts and logic to change the narrative to fit their views, but it's obvious to anybody with half a brain.

GUNS KILL!

Don't get me wrong. I love hunting. I love guns. But the state that we are in. We need to take a cold hard look at ourselves and our kids and loved ones and say it's time to catch up to the other first world societies in terms of gun control. We need to wake the fuck up.
 

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