Biden appeals for tougher gun laws: ‘How much more carnage?’

[RXJoy]

Yeah, I know. Another Politics thread in the Main Forum... My bad, I'll move it later.

That being out of the way, I am genuinely curious to hear what the forum has to say about the broadcast from Biden last night.

Biden appeals for tougher gun laws: 'How much more carnage?'

President Joe Biden has delivered an impassioned plea to Congress to act on gun control. In an address to the nation Thursday night, he called on lawmakers to restore limits on the sale of assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines.

apnews.com

He repeated calls to restore a ban on the sale of assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines — and said if Congress won’t embrace all of his proposals, it must at least find compromises like keeping firearms from those with mental health issues or raising the age to buy assault-style weapons from 18 to 21.

 

[StevieRay]

 

[StevieRay]

“I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, untraceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control.”

-Senator Joe Biden, 1985

 

[StevieRay]

 

[StevieRay]

Biden is good for him sales. Lol. Couldn’t get in parking lot yesterday local place was so packed

 

[Willie99]

The solution is not simple nor is it short term. I believe the solution is a combination of education, parenting, stop creating hate and anger, stop dividing us, stop creating victims, tough no nonsense consequences for criminals and a few common sense gun laws like background checks and mental illness awareness

If you want to ban guns, go for it, overturn the second amendment. Good luck with that Let's make that a campaign issue, I'd love it

The second amendment is about protecting the people from tyranny, and it's just as needed today as it was 250 years ago.

Joe Biden is an out of touch, senile, lying career politician. He's not a smart or honest man. Their solutions are superficial poppycock, just cheap words. They need hate, they need to divide us, they need anger... it's their political life's blood. That's why even when they have complete control, they pass NOTHING

Words are cheap, this is used as an issue to divide us, they offer no real solutions, and any solution will take time.

 

[kingvit]

Biden has never suggested banning guns or overturning the 2nd amendment. That’s just Republican imagination.

 

[StevieRay]

“The reality is that Biden and his party are coming after your constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Biden's plan to ban the sale of #9MM firearms would effectively restrict the sale of a gun that represents more than 55% of all weapons manufactured in America.”

 

[StevieRay]

Officials at the Encino hospital confirm that the victims of the stabbing were two nurses and one doctor.

Raise the age to purchase cutlery to 21 and implement a 48-hour waiting period.

 

[MAGAking1]

Yeah, I know. Another Politics thread in the Main Forum... My bad, I'll move it later.

That being out of the way, I am genuinely curious to hear what the forum has to say about the broadcast from Biden last night.

Biden appeals for tougher gun laws: 'How much more carnage?'

President Joe Biden has delivered an impassioned plea to Congress to act on gun control. In an address to the nation Thursday night, he called on lawmakers to restore limits on the sale of assault-style weapons and high-capacity magazines.

apnews.com

Well at least you are the more realistic mod when it comes to understanding what this specific forum wants to discuss.

 

[MAGAking1]

The solution is not simple nor is it short term. I believe the solution is a combination of education, parenting, stop creating hate and anger, stop dividing us, stop creating victims, tough no nonsense consequences for criminals and a few common sense gun laws like background checks and mental illness awareness

If you want to ban guns, go for it, overturn the second amendment. Good luck with that Let's make that a campaign issue, I'd love it

The second amendment is about protecting the people from tyranny, and it's just as needed today as it was 250 years ago.

Joe Biden is an out of touch, senile, lying career politician. He's not a smart or honest man. Their solutions are superficial poppycock, just cheap words. They need hate, they need to divide us, they need anger... it's their political life's blood. That's why even when they have complete control, they pass NOTHING

Words are cheap, this is used as an issue to divide us, they offer no real solutions, and any solution will take time.

See BIGWill stick to THESE kinds of posts where you understand what is going on
......these are your BREAD and BUTTER

I did chuckle at this line though
Joe Biden is an out of touch, senile, lying career politician. He's not a smart or honest man
Please dont go FULL Biden on us pal...never go Full Biden

 

[StevieRay]

The US government has been arming Ukraine, because they're allies.

The US government has been seeking to disarm Russia, because they're opponents.

In totally unrelated news, the US government seeks to disarm you.

 

[MAGAking1]

and cue the the fingers getting ready to furiously search Google in 3,2,1

 

[RXJoy]

Well at least you are the more realistic mod when it comes to understanding what this specific forum wants to discuss.

I just want to hear all sides of the story and genuinely curious to hear different points of view, it's a big subject and I'm torn, I grew up with guns/military man and love all about it but this issue with these shootings is getting out of hand. Are guns the problem? I don't think so, that being said, I do think we allow ANYONE to have them and well, I'm sick and tired of seeing kids die for nothing. Know what I mean?

 

[MAGAking1]

I just want to hear all sides of the story and genuinely curious to hear different points of view, it's a big subject and I'm torn, I grew up with guns/military man and love all about it but this issue with these shootings is getting out of hand. Are guns the problem? I don't think so, that being said, I do think we allow ANYONE to have them and well, I'm sick and tired of seeing kids die for nothing. Know what I mean?

Then I would argue that you are being emotional about your perceptions of "news" rather than logical about the situation.

What I mean is that lets make a GIGANTIC (and illogical-but that is not the point) assumption that kids were killed in EVERY school shooting since Columbine. and that they were totally organic, free of FF or other Hoax....how many kids does that add up to

From Columbine to Robb: 169 people killed in mass school shootings since 1999

Grief, death, and a lack of progress have plagued the United States for nearly two decades.

www.cbsnews.com

Now compare that number to how many kids are killed by gun violence in general.....no one EVER gets emotional and talks about gun control when that happens. Point 22 sheds some light

52 Shocking Gun Violence Statistics [2023 Update]

Gun violence has become an increasingly common occurrence. Check out these gun violence statistics to understand this horrific topic better.

safeatlast.co

Its not that the killings are getting out of hand, they have always been there.

Its about the way in which the media, who are simple an agent of the ELITES who wish to control us, uses this news to manipulate our emotions in order to acheive a desired outcome.

 

[MAGAking1]

HOLY SHIT...just another of the scores and scores of Qdrops being played out in front of our eyes

Upside down gun , Dark to Light, right on the EXACT date (Delta)

 

[Tuesday]

I just want to hear all sides of the story and genuinely curious to hear different points of view, it's a big subject and I'm torn, I grew up with guns/military man and love all about it but this issue with these shootings is getting out of hand. Are guns the problem? I don't think so, that being said, I do think we allow ANYONE to have them and well, I'm sick and tired of seeing kids die for nothing. Know what I mean?

The logical way to look at this issue is to assess whether the change being suggested will be effective in stopping the problem from recurring.

Guns laws are a form of prohibition...just like any of the other laws are intended to regulate restrict and prohibit use of something...has prohibition ever been effective in stopping whatever it was meant to prohibit...? I have to say no because laws are just words...now if somehow the laws were magical and somehow did exactly what the were intended to do then yeah the laws would be effective...but that's obviously not the case in the real world.

What does work? Education does the most...it's working for smoking...it's working for planned parenting...it's working for alot of things...but it's a slow process as Willie99 above already said...

What else works? Actually protecting things physically instead of just protecting things with words.

So until educating and other things start to show results the best way is just to protect schools like money is protected at banks. People have to realize laws can't protect them it's just a false sense of security and everyone is responsible for protecting themselves.

Stop forcing children to go to school as well...schools can still be free but at least make it a choice that they will find value in making. Besides in the future everyone can just go to school online and that'll be the safest and cheapest for taxpayers too.

Anyways...I don't believe laws will help because in don't want only some people to have access to them...either everyone can have them or none and it's never gonna be none so we should all have them...no point only the bad guys having access to them through black markets...

 

[MAGAking1]

The logical way to look at this issue is to assess whether the change being suggested will be effective in stopping the problem from recurring.

Guns laws are a form of prohibition...just like any of the other laws are intended to regulate restrict and prohibit use of something...has prohibition ever been effective in stopping whatever it was meant to prohibit...? I have to say no because laws are just words...now if somehow the laws were magical and somehow did exactly what the were intended to do then yeah the laws would be effective...but that's obviously not the case in the real world.

What does work? Education does the most...it's working for smoking...it's working for planned parenting...it's working for alot of things...but it's a slow process as Willie99 above already said...

What else works? Actually protecting things physically instead of just protecting things with words.

So until educating and other things start to show results the best way is just to protect schools like money is protected at banks. People have to realize laws can't protect them it's just a false sense of security and everyone is responsible for protecting themselves.

Stop forcing children to go to school as well...schools can still be free but at least make it a choice that they will find value in making. Besides in the future everyone can just go to school online and that'll be the safest and cheapest for taxpayers too.

Anyways...I don't believe laws will help because in don't want only some people to have access to them...either everyone can have them or none and it's never gonna be none so we should all have them...no point only the bad guys having access to them through black markets...

I wonder if public school will be some kind of online/in person hybrid in the future

I think they have to learn social skills and interpersonal relation skills and that is why I couldnt back a full online thing and that is why I dont agree with PURE homeshooling , UNLESS of course the parent includes other human contact/interactions in the kids life.....

 

[Tuesday]

I wonder if public school will be some kind of online/in person hybrid in the future

I think they have to learn social skills and interpersonal relation skills and that is why I couldnt back a full online thing and that is why I dont agree with PURE homeshooling , UNLESS of course the parent includes other human contact/interactions in the kids life.....

Yeah a agree social skills and just learning how to deal with all sorts of people is important...my problem is the curriculum being decided by the government and then bring forced onto people...I rather there be more choice left up to families because governments are teaching children that the government is more important than their families and I obviously don't agree with that...

Right now free public schools are being used as free daycare all at the taxpayers expense...the public school system is not efficient with the tax budget it commands every year...I'm not exactly sure what the perfect solution is but I think it has to start with not forcing education/curriculums onto families and letting families have more choice on how their children are educated and what they learn.

What you said about online/in person hybrid is probably worth trying out at some schools...because I think the school day hours that children have to be at school could be reduced thereby giving kids more free time to pursue other activities...either way if some students learn better at home they should do that or if some learn better in class they should pursue that...it's all about maximizing potentials like how lots of workplaces are finding that it's more efficient to let employees set their own hours as long as it's benefiting the company profit margins etc...for schools they would have to determine what benefits the students being able to learn most effectively.

 

[MAGAking1]

Yeah a agree social skills and just learning how to deal with all sorts of people is important...my problem is the curriculum being decided by the government and then bring forced onto people...I rather there be more choice left up to families because governments are teaching children that the government is more important than their families and I obviously don't agree with that...

Right now free public schools are being used as free daycare all at the taxpayers expense...the public school system is not efficient with the tax budget it commands every year...I'm not exactly sure what the perfect solution is but I think it has to start with not forcing education/curriculums onto families and letting families have more choice on how their children are educated and what they learn.

What you said about online/in person hybrid is probably worth trying out at some schools...because I think the school day hours that children have to be at school could be reduced thereby giving kids more free time to pursue other activities...either way if some students learn better at home they should do that or if some learn better in class they should pursue that...it's all about maximizing potentials like how lots of workplaces are finding that it's more efficient to let employees set their own hours as long as it's benefiting the company profit margins etc...for schools they would have to determine what benefits the students being able to learn most effectively.

Well whatver they do it has to START with the platform that we ACTUALLY want smarter kids and eventually smarter adults...that cant happen in the current "reality" in which the Global Elite/Cabal are bringing together their Great Reset

As it stands now the fuckery is by design, they want most people to grow up as slaves to the system. They breed followers vs independent thought leaders.

That is why most of the time I refrain from these idealist debates, because no matter how good the idea
IT WILL NEVER HAPPEN
so long as the people running the world continue to run the world

stay tuned though....the GREAT AWAKENING is in PROGRESS