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mandatory 25 years for 3 drug offenses is the stupidest thing i've heard of. the poor people, who are predominant minority hustle to make money. selling somebody drugs isn't going to affect my life, just like you gambling isn't going to affect my life.

shouldn't be illegal to sell drugs.

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Yeah, but if you changed it to 2 strikes, you would have to build 10k new jails.
 

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mandatory 25 years for 3 drug offenses is the stupidest thing i've heard of. the poor people, who are predominant minority hustle to make money. selling somebody drugs isn't going to affect my life, just like you gambling isn't going to affect my life.

shouldn't be illegal to sell drugs.

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Instead of hustling by dealing drugs, how about hustling and getting a real fucking job.
 

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Instead of hustling by dealing drugs, how about hustling and getting a real fucking job.

not easy getting a job once they know your poor. how does it affect you that someone else is selling somebody drugs. as long as it doesnt affect me i could care less. makes no matter to me what a man does for a living.
 

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not easy getting a job once they know your poor. how does it affect you that someone else is selling somebody drugs. as long as it doesnt affect me i could care less. makes no matter to me what a man does for a living.
Don't give me this you can't get a job because you are poor. That is just bullshit. I know alot of poor people who have gotten jobs and made successes of themselves.

Drugs are illegal. Drug addicts will do anything to get their drugs. Drug dealers are the lowest of the low when it comes to human beings. They prey on people who have a sickness and they prey on young people. They are lower than dirt. They belong locked under the fucking jail!!
 

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Don't give me this you can't get a job because you are poor. That is just bullshit. I know alot of poor people who have gotten jobs and made successes of themselves.

Drugs are illegal. Drug addicts will do anything to get their drugs. Drug dealers are the lowest of the low when it comes to human beings. They prey on people who have a sickness and they prey on young people. They are lower than dirt. They belong locked under the fucking jail!!

you do what you gotta do to make ends meet. like i said, i dont care as long as it doesn't affect me. that line of business is a little dangerous to me, but like i said it's not my life, so i don't care. i got my own life to worry about.

25 years is a joke, accept that its a joke and move on.
 

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If you support keeping drugs illegal

You support robberies and assaults on innocent people.
You support clogging our prisons and jails with nonviolent people.
You support organized crime and drug cartels.
You support environmental destruction.
You support drug dealers and street gangs.
You lure thousands of young people into quitting school.
You do nothing to keep drugs away from kids or out of schools.
You subsidize criminals by letting them reap huge drug profits without paying taxes.
You advocate punishing millions of harmless drug users at an enormous cost to society.

facts:
* Over 300,000 nonviolent people lose their freedom to prison/jail.
* Thousands of murders, assaults, and robberies caused by drug crimes.
* $20 billion/year in law enforcement costs.
* $10 billion/year in lost tax revenue (similar to alcohol tax).
* $5 billion/year in property losses due to drug-related crimes.
* $50 billion/year and 500,000 jobs lost because of no hemp industry.
 

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not easy getting a job once they know your poor. how does it affect you that someone else is selling somebody drugs. as long as it doesnt affect me i could care less. makes no matter to me what a man does for a living.
It will affect you when your car gets stolen to pay for their drugs.
 

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If it was legal to sell drugs, nobody would do it because they wouldn't make enough money.
 

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It will affect you when your car gets stolen to pay for their drugs.

so what, people steal cars to pay for gambling addictions and other various addictions they have. there's no way you can logically tell me that you deserve to be put in jail 25 years for 3 drug offenses. the only person you hurt is yourself.

stupid rule causing us to fill our prisons up at an alarming rate. you know the system is messed up when i can kill somebody and get less time then selling drugs to somebody.
 

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so what, people steal cars to pay for gambling addictions and other various addictions they have.
Hardly anyone steals cars to pay for gambling or tobacco addictions. I've never heard of anyone doing that.
there's no way you can logically tell me that you deserve to be put in jail 25 years for 3 drug offenses. the only person you hurt is yourself.
I agree with that, 3 strikes law is stupid.
 

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maybe not cars, but other peoples identities, there purses/wallets, pick pocket, identity theft etc to pay for it.

there's always going to be people stealing.

the point is these people who do these drugs and sell these drugs shouldn't be locked up for 25 years. if this was legalized, you'd see a big drop on the drive bys etc.

letting them sit in jail accomplishes nothing. like i said, the scary thing is that guy who's in there for killing somebody will be back out on the street before a relatively harmless drug dealer/user is.
 

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you do what you gotta do to make ends meet. like i said, i dont care as long as it doesn't affect me. that line of business is a little dangerous to me, but like i said it's not my life, so i don't care.


Ladies and gentlemen, there's your classic hypocritical liberal mindset in clear print. Just like Ted Kennedy's fat ass opposing solar power because it would impede his grand ocean view, or Rosie O'Donut telling other people that it's bad to own guns while she has her own armed security personnel. Liberals talk a good game, but the rules they spout never seem to apply to themselves.

You do realize innocent people get killed because of the illegal drug trade, don't you? That is, people who have zero to do with either selling or consuming illegal drugs (see Escobar, Pablo and some of the atrocities he committed against innocent bystanders to keep his empire going). You do realize that taxpayer monies go towards paying for junkies and their rehab, don't you? Illegal drugs DO have an effect on you, but I guess you don't give a shit about any of that as long as you get your own fix.

Now, we can look at your own inane list you posted:

If you support keeping drugs illegal
You support robberies and assaults on innocent people.

No, I actually support getting drug dealers off the streets (and preferably straight to the electric chair upon their first conviction). Not to mention, would the roughhousing from the illegal drug trade just magically disappear if the substances were made legal?

You support clogging our prisons and jails with nonviolent people.

Does something have to be violent in order to be considered a crime? Grand theft auto, insurance fraud, bank fraud, embezzlement, check bouncing, money laundering, and identity theft are all examples of nonviolent crimes. Should those be legalized as well?

You support organized crime and drug cartels.

No, I support an aggressive elimination campaign against them. This is a ridiculous assertation anyway. It'd be like saying that if I don't personally advocate racketeering, then I must by default support the activities of the Gambino crime family. Preposterous and absurd.

You support environmental destruction.

Huh? How?

You support drug dealers and street gangs.

See my first answer.

You lure thousands of young people into quitting school.

Are you seriously suggesging that by offering kids easier access to drugs, that will somehow encourage them to stay in school and get an education?

You advocate punishing millions of harmless drug users at an enormous cost to society.

Right...totally harmless. I mean it's not like even one person has gotten stoned, jumped in their car, and killed someone else in an accident...have they? Oh, wait...
 

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Now, we can look at your own inane list you posted:

If you support keeping drugs illegal
You support robberies and assaults on innocent people.

No, I actually support getting drug dealers off the streets (and preferably straight to the electric chair upon their first conviction). Not to mention, would the roughhousing from the illegal drug trade just magically disappear if the substances were made legal?

Doing so would solve the problem in less than a few years...possibly much sooner.

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you against alcohol JDeuce?


God, here we go again. Every time someone brings up a counter argument to the legalization of drugs, the only rebuttal is "well, what about alcohol?"

No, I'm not against the consumption of alcohol...even though I rarely drink myself (can't even remember the last time I had a drink to be honest...probably New Years Eve). There are actually some health benefits from red wine as well...and I have yet to see a doctor say the same from cocaine or heroin (and spare me the non-existant marijuana health references).

However, I think the penalties we have in place for drunk driving are far too soft...and I don't think we should be paying for alcoholics to enter rehab. Drink at your own risk is what I say. Does that answer your question?
 

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