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ScottTheHISTORIAN

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This poster comes from the 1932 presidential elections, but I am not sure which round. The caption on top, in pseudo-Hebraic lettering, translates as: "We are voting for Hindenburg!" The pictures are of a variety of Jewish politicians (the big names are now Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, ...), abd our christian President has sold our country to neo-cons.

The caption beneath: "Look at these faces and you'll know where you belong!" The pictures are of leading Nazis.
 
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Scott, I am very capable and studious in regard to post 1913 conflict and pre 1946 conflict. I am well read and continue to fight through accounts and histories of the aforementioned time period. However, I am at a loss to understand what you are saying in this thread. Totally at a loss. I have analyzed it in different ways. You are tying Jewish names to people that have "jewish sounding names" in positions of power today.

YOU are worrying me. This is a forum for many viewpoints. Be direct. Be blunt. Be succinct. Do not be afraid. What are you saying? I have seen another poster question what your intent or meaning could be within another thread. If you believe in something, then BE OBVIOUS. You make me wonder at what you are trying to convey in an off-handed, indirect manner and it makes me think you may be ashamed/afraid of the consequences of direct banter. Good luck and please, let us know what the hell is your meaning.

We can disagree vehemently between ourselves, and we then know with whom we disagree and maybe even whom we dislike. We smile in passing to corrupt statements and Death is at the door. tulsa
 
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No explanation? Scott? Where are you? It is your post!!! We just need some explanation here! tulsa
 
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I live in Hungary and if I had a choice between the Nazis being in charge today and the current system in which America and the Jews are in charge, I would choose the Nazis.

Main reason: the probability of a nuclear war happening within my lifetime would be MUCH lower than it is today.

There, how's that for bluntness!? Scott, your turn now...
 
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Darryl, I appreciate your bluntness. Yours makes sense, though I don't agree with your viewpoint in the least. Scott's views are somewhat obscure in that his post mixes his bad guys! The poster is a NAZI poster. Ok. Now, Scott is saying the poster should represent what WE can consider good reason? I truly am having trouble believing THAT, so I would like Scott to bluntly explain his ideas here. No reason not to, as you so ably have shown, Mr. Parsons.

Now to consider what you have said, Darryl Parsons. First, let me say that I would love to visit Hungary. I understand that it is a wonderful place full of wonderful people and wonderful culture. I grew up with a couple of refugees from Hungary (eastern block refugees of the good old days) and I liked them very much and their wonderful/interesting...not to mention tasty...culture that they brought to our small town.

Although I have enjoyed your posts for quite a while, I find this singular post very telling.

Well, if you believe it would be a better world had the Nazis had a good world domination tour then I am totally at a loss. What is humorous (actually not humorous but more bemusing) about your post is that the NAZIS never did have nuclear capabilities and thus you are correct in one thing: we would be less likely to have nuclear war under 1943 NAZI occupation than 2005 United States dominance/1983 Soviet&US power struggle/2008 Korean-Chinese-Japanese-US conflicts. You are correct in that one point.

That the US is in charge is probably a fair assessment and I'm not sure I like that much, either, and I'm in the United States (though I don't have the knowledge or capability to discern such things as people in Hungary, so I'll take your word for it.) However, when you speak of some Jewish control in the world then you do sound much like your favored policy makers that couldn't, I should say 'wouldn't,' use nuclear devices on others. Your post tells loads and I appreciate that. At least I am certain where you stand. I can always appreciate that.

Good luck to you Darryl Parsons as you weave your way through the web that the Jews have brought to our world. Good luck to you as you look over your shoulder wondering if the Jews are talking about you or plotting to make Hungary the far eastern state of the US/Israel ALLIANCE. You have weaseled out our PLOT! Good for you.

Scott, is what you posted of the same ILK as Darryl has just presented? You don't have to dislike Jews and Israel if you don't care for Bush or Cheney or the biggest JEW of them all, Condi Rice! I wondered if Scott's post didn't have the same tone as Darryl's. I hope not and I'll let Scott speak for himself. I do believe I hear the devil knocking. I'm not even a Bush fan in the least, but Criminy you guys scare the SH!T out of me.

Anyway, on a more positive note, I hope you wouldn't mind me coming to visit your country of Hungary sometime, Mr. Parsons. I wouldn't deem to bother you, of course, as we probably wouldn't get along, but I wouldn't mind your blessing. I would love to visit and I shouldn't bother you a bit. You see, I'm not at all Jewish. Not a whit! tulsa
 
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the probability of a nuclear war happening within my lifetime
would be MUCH lower than it is today.

I would say it would be much higher.
Adolf broke every treaty he ever signed, except the tripartite, which he didn't get enough time to break...

Nukes on both sides wouldn't have stopped WW2, especially on the eastern front.
Churchill only delayed dropping anthrax all over Germany because of the Russian victory at Kursk.(biggest tank battle in history)

WW2 was a war of annihilation Darryl.

WW1 20 years previously hadn't taught the Germans any long term lessons, this time around they were going to get totally crushed and disarmed.

Absolute and total unconditional surrender, or obliteration.
Churchill and Stalin were the right guys for the job.

And as history records, Adolf and his buddies chose obliteration.
 
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Caen was holding up the allied advance after D-Day, it was full of French civilians, not just Germans, and it got obliterated in 40 minutes.

Rome and Paris would have suffered the same fate, which is why the Germans unassed these places without a fight.

A thousand years in the making, the medieval city was destroyed
in 40 minutes.

I was fortunate enough to grow up with all my grandparents and their mindset from the start of the 20th century, which was somewhat different from modern revisionism...in a nutshell:
"The only good German is a dead German."
 
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Tulsa,

I also appreciate your openness, but I see some fundamental things in which you believe that simply aren't true...

Yes, I call myself an opponent of the Jews and their current movement, a determined one at that. But no, I do not dislike them (I'm glad you didn't use the "hate" word as many of your ilk like to use), and I do not believe there is any sort of de facto conspiracy going on, nor am I the slightest bit paranoid of such a thing. The Jewish race has my utmost respect, even if I am trying to push the world in a different direction.

I do believe Hitler has been the most mischaracterized leader in the history of the world, and it is largely due to the unbelievable success of the Jews in controlling the world's media. My hat goes off to such an incredibly intelligent, creative and cohesive group (cohesive by instinct, not by conspiracy).

The achilles heel of this thus far wonderfully successful race of people is their inability to think very far ahead. They can solve the short and medium term problems with unparalleled efficiency, but they fail to provide answers for the next generations. Could it be selfishness and/or erosion of religious foundations? I don't know.

One thing is for sure, though -- the world economy is currently standing on a house of cards and it is not because of Hitler's economic ideas of self-sufficiency and goods-based (not money-based) exchange, which were neutralized by force and permanently outlawed for all major world economies with American nukes (designed by Jewish scientists) enforcing the law.

Hitler would have been happy to just oust the Soviets (and the territories they controlled) and ally himself with the Americans and the British. He respected American power and didn't want a confrontation with them. He only attacked weaker opponents whose barbaric ways were getting out of hand and he wanted evolution to continue as it has up to now, with the more intelligent and forward thinking types being successful, while crowding out the barbaric types and letting them reach an evolutionary dead end -- one that he (and I) feel is deserving.

But the Americans couldn't have that. They identified deeply with weaker and less able-bodied peoples, because deep down they felt that way themselves. They feared Hitler would regard Americans as weak, and put them next on the list to attack. This fear was nothing more than paranoia, for attacking America wasn't even in his wildest dreams, despite propaganda to the contrary.

So America took the initiative and quashed him. And where did it lead? To a world in which the weaker, dumber, more disadvantaged you are, and the more capable you are of lying, cheating and stealing, the more help you'll get from powerful governments and the more incentive you'll have to make babies, all supported by a fragile economic house of cards waiting to collapse.

It doesn't really matter, though, because in the end the values that brought human evolution to today's stage will continue to prosper, but between WW2 and WW3 we'll just have another failed experiment to look back on with fond memories as we tell stories to our 3-year-old great grandchildren in a rocking chair at the age of 95.
 
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Hitler would have been happy to just oust the Soviets
(and the territories they controlled) and ally himself with the Americans
and the British. He respected American power and didn't want a
confrontation with them.

So why did the battle of France, Belgium, Netherlands and the Battle of Britain and the war in the North African Desert and the war in Yugoslavia and Greece and Norway happen?

He 'only' really needed Poland....
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He could have avoided Poland completely, and gone through Czechoslovakia, Hungary and Romania to get at Russia.
Then Britain wouldn't have declared war on him.

So if he had been smart enough to avoid Poland he wouldn't have dragged the allies into the war.

But he just wasn't that smart.

And dummies always lose in the end.

As you like to point out, that's natural selection for you.
 
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WW2 was a war of annihilation Darryl.

WW1 20 years previously hadn't taught the Germans any long term lessons, this time around they were going to get totally crushed and disarmed.

Absolute and total unconditional surrender, or obliteration.
Churchill and Stalin were the right guys for the job.

Hitler made two huge mistakes IMO that cost him the war and his life...

1) He miscalculated British and American reaction to his ideas. He truly thought they would either help him and discuss how to divvy up the pie, or else just stand aside and watch. It was a complete surprise to him that they were capable of throwing in everything they had to stop him. He just didn't understand the psychology behind it.

2) He overestimated his own power and underestimated the power of the Americans and British.

Anyone who makes such huge mistakes deserves to be punished IMO, so I'd say it was Hitler's own fault and the German people's own fault that they ended up losing the war.

But now it is the USA who is making the big mistakes and it is their turn to get punished. Ideology-wise Hitler was closer to a sustainable set of values consistent with the observable world than modern America is today. He just had an overly ambitious implementation plan. It's unclear as yet how the fall of America will happen, but it will probably start with another great depression. The question is when and not if.
 
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Both Hungary and Romania were sympathetic to the Germans.

Avoiding Poland, and a clash with the Allies was a doddle.

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You don't think he underestimated the power of the USSR?

That's where WW2 was really won/lost.

Even if Hitler had taken Moscow, like Napoleon, it wouldn't have meant the end of things.

Stalingrad only lasted from August42 to Feb43, and realistically speaking the Germans around Stalingrad were fúcked by December 1942.

So in 4 months(120 days) the back of the German Army snapped, it simply lacked the kit and manpower to do the job required of it.
 
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Interesting map, although an important yet typical oversight was made regarding Yugoslavia...Brits and Americans like to think it's just one big spot (stain?) on the map, but it has some very distinct parts, like Croatia and Serbia which are never on the same side of anything. Croatia was squarely on the Nazi side, while the Serbs were (and still are) in bed with the Russians.
 
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eek. said:
You don't think he underestimated the power of the USSR?

Yes, that too, but it may have been different if his first assumption had come in ie. that USA and England would be semi-allies rather than enemies.
 

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