WSOP should not be all no limit

[pokerpills]

I believe the WSOP should not be a strictly no limit game. It should be a HORSE game. For those who don't know, HORSE is a combination of Holdem, Omaha, Razz, and Stud. A round of each game. This is the true way of determing the best poker player in the world. Brunson, Ivey, Juanda and many more pros have all agreed that this should be the format of the WSOP. The best player in the world should be skilled in all of these games before they can be crowned the World Champion. Just my honest opinion.

 

[RobFunk]

The field is so huge and there are so many terrible players, that the best player doesnt win anyways. thats been the case 2 years in a row.

 

[pokerpills]

The field is so huge and there are so many terrible players, that the best player doesnt win anyways. thats been the case 2 years in a row.

I believe the current format should be called the World Poker No Limit Championship, not the World Series of Poker. The World Series of Poker sould at least involve the big three Hold em, Omaha, and Stud. With a round of each. This will truly keep everyone on their toes and only the most skilled will survive. This will also help thin out the field.

 

[Fishhead]

I disagree...........no limit hold'em is the CADILLAC of POKER and thus should be rewarded as the game to crown the WORLD CHAMPION.

 

[aceduecetrey]

The WSOP is made up of 45 different events this year, Only about 1/4 pf themis NL holdem

 

[1cheater]

I agree pokerpills, you should be skilled at all facets..

 

[pokerpills]

I disagree...........no limit hold'em is the CADILLAC of POKER and thus should be rewarded as the game to crown the WORLD CHAMPION.

You cannot be crowned the best poker player in the world if you are skilled in just Hold Em. Poker is comprised of many games with the top 3 being Holdem, Omaha, and Stud. You might think Hold em is the Cadillac but I can assure you, there are many around the world that will not play anything else after they have played Omaha. The action of no limit Holdem is incomparable to pot limit Omaha.

 

[RobFunk]

Omaha is a tough game to me, so I guess that solidifys your point PP

 

[pokerpills]

The WSOP is made up of 45 different events this year, Only about 1/4 pf themis NL holdem

What I'm debating is that the top 3 games should be played together in one tournament with a round of each. Doyle Brunson mentioned that this is the format he would prefer as well.

 

[Fishhead]

You cannot be crowned the best poker player in the world if you are skilled in just Hold Em. Poker is comprised of many games with the top 3 being Holdem, Omaha, and Stud. You might think Hold em is the Cadillac but I can assure you, there are many around the world that will not play anything else after they have played Omaha. The action of no limit Holdem is incomparable to pot limit Omaha.

I agree, and actually believe that OMAHA will see a surge in popularity in the next few years.

However, unless another game is invented, NO LIMIT HOLD'EM will be the game of choice for both the recreational player and the professional............especially on the tournament end of the spectrum........in my opinion.

-FISH-

 

[aceduecetrey]

You cannot be crowned the best poker player in the world if you are skilled in just Hold Em. Poker is comprised of many games with the top 3 being Holdem, Omaha, and Stud. You might think Hold em is the Cadillac but I can assure you, there are many around the world that will not play anything else after they have played Omaha. The action of no limit Holdem is incomparable to pot limit Omaha.

do you really think that just because you win the main event at the WSOP, that people view you as the best poker player in the world? Does anyone really think Moneymaker ,Raymer or Varkonyi were the best players in the world?

 

[pokerpills]

do you really think that just because you win the main event at the WSOP, that people view you as the best poker player in the world? Does anyone really think Moneymaker ,Raymer or Varkonyi were the best players in the world?

But this is why they need to rethink the format of the WSOP so that you can have an event that will crown a true champion of poker. This was the intention of the WSOP when it first started. The current format does not allow this. Through the years, they have strayed away from this and it has became a lotto crapshoot almost.

 

[Woody0]

I thought about this format a few years ago when the fields became huge and it has much to commend it. Remember many of the top pros play mixed cash games at the highest limits. Of course this format would improve the chances of the top pros.

I have really enjoyed playing low limit CHORSEL at poker conventions. CHORSEL (Crazy Pineapple, Holdem, Omaha/8, Razz, Stud, Stud/8, Lowball). Naturally this game requires a different skill set than NL holdem but Sklansky's Theory of Poker is good background for any game. Frankly the dominance of holdem makes players very one dimensional.

 

[dmmd98]

No one in the right mind thinks the winner of the WSOP of poker main event is the best poker player. All it means is that you've won the biggest event. No use complaining about it cause its never going to change. Enjoy it for what it is.

 

[Fishhead]

No one in the right mind thinks the winner of the WSOP of poker main event is the best poker player. All it means is that you've won the biggest event. No use complaining about it cause its never going to change. Enjoy it for what it is.

Precisely........very good analogy.

-F-

 

[wantitall4moi]

They give points to guys for things. Last year Negraneau won best overall player. Not to mention he won a couple WPT events I think, or got second a couple times. I know he made a little over 4 mil last year and won a couple vehicles.


Its a minefield, and the rwal nice money is in all the live side games going. Entering the main event is like buying a lottery ticket. If they get 4000 people it will take a week to just get in the money, that is a lot of land mines to miss along the way.

 

[Matt24]

You cannot be crowned the best poker player in the world if you are skilled in just Hold Em. Poker is comprised of many games with the top 3 being Holdem, Omaha, and Stud. You might think Hold em is the Cadillac but I can assure you, there are many around the world that will not play anything else after they have played Omaha. The action of no limit Holdem is incomparable to pot limit Omaha.

Who says they are being crowned best poker player in the world? Whoever wins the Main event of the WSOP is doing just that, winning the 2005 Main Event, he isn't the best player in the world and noone is crowning him that, yeah some may call him world champ, but noone is saying he is the best.



I guess I should have scrolled down, as everyone beat me to my point.

 

[WildBill]

Not sure how many realize this, but the original World Champion didn't win a tournament, but was voted the best player by his peers. This was earned through solid play in a series of events. This is how it should be. Simple solution, not perfect, but better than what we have now is to use a basic points system for the whole WSOP month and then give the World Champion title to the points winner. Or even better yet, take the top 4 or 6 or whatever players and put them on a table to settle it. To be called the World Champ is one of the few events I believe players would be fired up for even with no money on the table. Just put a bracelet out there, that is what you are playing for. If they did this, they would drive up the attendance of all the events for the month. The big tourney is so popular now that cutting down its popularity may not be that bad a thing.

Lets face it though, the reason why they keep this silly charade is because the Moneymakers of the world are great PR. Everyone knows its not a real World Champion, but it all plays well for the poker world to have nobodies win it all.

 

[Horseshoe]

Moneymaker on a tv commercial for one of the websites, saying "professional poker player..like me!" makes me chuckle, but not as bad as watching Varkonyi turn Doyle's stomach by twirling the obnoxious amount of slack links on his WSOP bracelet. I'm not a cardplayer, but Raymer to me looked to have much more "skills" than the other two recent leftfield winners.

What would the odds of a Robin Hood Greenstein, Chip Reese, or Negreanu be heads-up vs. either recent WSOP winners(Moneymaker or Varkonyi) be in a series of moneygames?

 

[royalfan]

This thread makes no sense. The World SERIES of poker is just that. A SERIES of events most of which are not no-limit. Points are earned for various accomplishments in each tourney. The last one is just the main event to close out the series(for all practical purposes). To win the championship like Negraneu did last year and the nice prizes to go with it, you must be able to do well in many games. I think many people think that the World Series of Poker is only the main event.