Let's see. As usual you referred to no authoritative sources to support anything you opined. So all you have is your own authority which is worth nothing more than a scribble on a bathroom stall wall. OTOH i referred to an article which referred to at least one authoritative source. So which of the two would you be inclined to think is probably right, if you had to choose between the two: (a) a chicken scratch in a shit-house or (b) a source quoting an authority? Where is the sharp money in this choice? Or is it (c) a no bet situation until further info is obtained? Which of the 3 do you think i would choose?
You claimed "No liberal ever answers this question." Yet i showed you one i found in minutes.
you don’t seem capable of combining logic.
you tell me our mortality rate is 4.5%. You’re aware of the science that suggests we catch or diagnose 10% or less of the actual cases.
which means our mortality is actually 10% or less of the purported 4.5%. Thus, we are talking max .0045 mortality rate, again, or LESS. But you’re touting 0.045%.
dumb
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Oh really? Where?
Wrong! I posted an article that said: "Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of coronavirus in the US, as of Monday morning Johns Hopkins estimated a fatality rate of 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide."
So what? Why wouldn't the same "science" apply to other countries, & how does that help your case that the USA is doing so well relative to Europe? You've provided no evidence the USA is doing better than Europe. In fact the article addressed that:
"Data on coronavirus death rates remain imprecise, due in part to limited testing availability and the prevalence of mild or asymptomatic cases that often go unrecorded. Still, among the 20 countries most affected by the virus, at least 14 have lower death rates than the US."
"Dr. Peter Hotez, professor of pediatrics and molecular virology and microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine, told CNN that according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins, the President's statements were not accurate. Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of coronavirus in the US, as of Monday morning Johns Hopkins estimated a fatality rate of 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide."
"The US death toll from coronavirus is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of coronavirus deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom."
"These numbers on coronavirus fatality rates in the US are not necessarily correlated with the record increase in cases reported by several states. From June 18-22, the daily reported death tolls reached lows not seen across a five day period since March, according to the Covid Tracking Project, a group led by Atlantic magazine staff writer Alexis Madrigal. The group has more than 100 volunteers and compiles coronavirus testing data from state government websites and government officials. US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams said last week that data on coronavirus deaths "lag at least two weeks," so it's possible the death rate has not caught up to the recent spikes in cases.
Columbia epidemiologist Elizabeth Radin told CNN she hadn't seen any evidence that the US has among the lowest Covid-19 "mortality rates" in the world.
"To be sure, estimates for all countries are subject to measurement error due to inaccurate reporting or attribution of deaths and/or under identification of cases due to limited testing. Additionally data from some countries may be more accurate or complete than others," Radin said. "I have not seen other reliable estimates that suggest that case fatality rate or deaths per population are uniquely low in the United States compared to other countries."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/polit...eck/index.html
Maybe you should stop getting your news from provably fake sources like CNN.
Spain has a higher death rate than America. Spain isn’t in the top 20 of countries most impacted? According to whom? Lol.
Italy has a higher death rate than America. Italy isn’t in the top 20 of countries most impacted? According to whom? Lol.
Lets set the stage a little bit and truly humiliate you, little lady.
There are only 4 countries on planet earth that have reported more deaths than Spain or Italy concerning Coronavirus. China and India’s numbers are both obviously fake, due to corruption or incompetence, but let’s stick to the reports.
So
1) Spain and Italy are both in the top 6 globally for overall number of deaths
2) At the same time, Spain and Italy are not in the top 20 of countries impacted by Coronavirus.
Enjoy your humiliating skull fucking. Little bitch, you’re in so far over your head.
Spain has a higher death rate than America. Spain isn’t in the top 20 of countries most impacted? According to whom? Lol.
Italy has a higher death rate than America. Italy isn’t in the top 20 of countries most impacted? According to whom? Lol.
Lets set the stage a little bit and truly humiliate you, little lady.
There are only 4 countries on planet earth that have reported more deaths than Spain or Italy concerning Coronavirus. China and India’s numbers are both obviously fake, due to corruption or incompetence, but let’s stick to the reports.
So
1) Spain and Italy are both in the top 6 globally for overall number of deaths
2) At the same time, Spain and Italy are not in the top 20 of countries impacted by Coronavirus.
Enjoy your humiliating skull fucking. Little bitch, you’re in so far over your head.
Durrrrrr Spain and Italy are both in the top 6 in Coronavirus deaths, but they’re also not in the top 20 of countries “most impacted” by Coronavirus.
I believe that because my name is X Files and I’m a dumb faggot bitch that believes anything CNN shoves into my stretched out anus.
here, let me post a gif of bouncing titties so the forum doesn’t know I love sucking cock more than my favorite anchor, Don Lemon
I believe that because my name is X Files and I’m a dumb faggot bitch that believes anything CNN shoves into my stretched out anus.
here, let me post a gif of bouncing titties so the forum doesn’t know I love sucking cock more than my favorite anchor, Don Lemon
Probably fake?
I got & posted the article from there because i figured you'ld accept it as a liberal source & you were referring to liberal sources. You claimed "No liberal ever answers this question." Yet i showed you one i found in minutes. (cf post #16 this thread).
France, Italy, and Spain are all in the top 7 globally of total deaths from Coronavirus.
France, Italy, and Spain all have higher death rates per 100K than the USA.
But France, Italy, and Spain somehow all get passed over for “top 20 countries impacted by Coronavirus” so that CNN can say the USA is 2nd worst out of 20, 20 countries that they apparently picked random criteria for entirely.
X-Files, I’m not sure how you show your face here after this. Stop sucking off CNN bro. They lie to you and you’re dumb. Recipe for disaster.
France, Italy, and Spain all have higher death rates per 100K than the USA.
But France, Italy, and Spain somehow all get passed over for “top 20 countries impacted by Coronavirus” so that CNN can say the USA is 2nd worst out of 20, 20 countries that they apparently picked random criteria for entirely.
X-Files, I’m not sure how you show your face here after this. Stop sucking off CNN bro. They lie to you and you’re dumb. Recipe for disaster.
provably and probably are different words. Your claim of pursuing higher education seems like a pretty blatant lie.
Explain to me how a list of the top 20 countries impacted by Coronavirus wouldn’t include Italy, Spain, or France? I’ll wait.
Here’s a fact for you.
Italy, Spain, the UK, USA, and France are 5 of the most advanced western nations in the world.
And of those 5 countries, the USA has the lowest death rate per 100K citizens.
We move on. This isn’t a fair fight, the judges are calling it.
Italy, Spain, the UK, USA, and France are 5 of the most advanced western nations in the world.
And of those 5 countries, the USA has the lowest death rate per 100K citizens.
We move on. This isn’t a fair fight, the judges are calling it.
If you want to convince people, or at least me, you are going to need to post some authoritative sources to back up your opinions. Without such sources i consider opinions on internet forums by anonymous posters i don't know to be worth the writings on a toilet room wall.
As for "China and India’s numbers are both obviously fake, due to corruption or incompetence", do you consider countries like the USA & Italy to be free of corruption and incompetence. Ever heard of Watergate?
Are you going to prove the following article is "fake"? I'll be waiting to see that proof.
"Data on coronavirus death rates remain imprecise, due in part to limited testing availability and the prevalence of mild or asymptomatic cases that often go unrecorded. Still, among the 20 countries most affected by the virus, at least 14 have lower death rates than the US."
"Dr. Peter Hotez, professor of pediatrics and molecular virology and microbiology at Baylor College of Medicine, told CNN that according to the latest data from Johns Hopkins, the President's statements were not accurate. Out of the at least 2.8 million cases of coronavirus in the US, as of Monday morning Johns Hopkins estimated a fatality rate of 4.5%, the sixth highest worldwide."
"The US death toll from coronavirus is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of coronavirus deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom."
"These numbers on coronavirus fatality rates in the US are not necessarily correlated with the record increase in cases reported by several states. From June 18-22, the daily reported death tolls reached lows not seen across a five day period since March, according to the Covid Tracking Project, a group led by Atlantic magazine staff writer Alexis Madrigal. The group has more than 100 volunteers and compiles coronavirus testing data from state government websites and government officials. US Surgeon General Dr. Jerome Adams said last week that data on coronavirus deaths "lag at least two weeks," so it's possible the death rate has not caught up to the recent spikes in cases.
Columbia epidemiologist Elizabeth Radin told CNN she hadn't seen any evidence that the US has among the lowest Covid-19 "mortality rates" in the world.
"To be sure, estimates for all countries are subject to measurement error due to inaccurate reporting or attribution of deaths and/or under identification of cases due to limited testing. Additionally data from some countries may be more accurate or complete than others," Radin said. "I have not seen other reliable estimates that suggest that case fatality rate or deaths per population are uniquely low in the United States compared to other countries."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/polit...eck/index.html
We know China has lied about Coronavirus every step of the way. India doesn’t have the testing capacity.
You going to explain to me how 3 of the 7 top countries in overall death don’t crack CNN’s top 20 most impacted list?
Or ignore it, for the 5th consecutive time?
Is that CNN's top 20 claim or merely CNN's report re John Hopkin's claim:
"The US death toll from coronavirus is more than twice as high as that of the country with the second-highest death toll, Brazil, based on data from Johns Hopkins. Out of the 20 most affected countries, the US also has the second highest number of coronavirus deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom."
Maybe do some research into what John Hopkin's says, if they say what CNN claims, and if they claim the above including "the US also has the second highest number of coronavirus deaths per 100,000 people, behind the United Kingdom" and how they come to such a conclusion. Otherwise it's just your unsupported opinions here against what John Hopkins may (or may not) have said. So nothing here is convincing one way or the other.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/07/politics/trump-coronavirus-death-rate-lowest-fact-check/index.html
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These claims are both objectively incorrect per Johns Hopkins data:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality
Currently, the US has the second highest death rate per 100K
