WIL! Did you see the story on SBR about Betmill?

[oldirtyku]

BOS seems like the same shady book as the past. They just hide it better now.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Let's see, there are two books I will not venture into, BetMill and BOS. I don't care if they are Platinum with diamond studs, fuggedaboutit. I am not going through the usual exercise of saying why, and having thunder gods and others all of a sudden emerge and attack me. I am glad bigbet dragged this over here. I don't go to all the forums looking for dirt, but this is filth. Luckily BOS is under "New Management", and do not consficate players funds any more.

Best Wishes...OF :howdy:

 

[dav168]

I've been with Millenium for about 5-7 years now. Never had a problem,have had decent sized balances(up to $10,000)over the years there,and never had a problem with bonuses or withdrawals. Have had some limits reduced due to having success there, but other than that, I can't say anything negative about them.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Oops. Make up your melon bigbet.

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Something POSITIVE to say about Betonsports.....
<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Seems everyone is bashing them all the time. I took advantage of their 50% CASH bonus deal.

Ran up a hefty balance. And was paid my entire balance in 3 days. They offer 10K per day FREE Via neteller, which is GREAT.

Their customer service was always very helpful and polite of chat and on the phone. I found some nice vaule there at time, and while mostly betting the limit (5K online) never once had my limits cut or a line change.

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Thanks for the endorsement. Should have opened up accounts both here and at BetMill. Double my pleasure, double my fun. You Dummy!


Best Wishes...OF :nopityA:

 

[bigbet1234]

Fish, no doubt he bust his ass, I never said he didn't. What I am making reference to his the majority of the time, he comes across as an arrogant ass.

Ask Woof, Kiss1, Ppeter, etc...... Simply wanted the situation looked into is all, and I get told to stop crying, "whatever".

BB

BB- Speaking as a good friend of yours.

Wil deals with MANY disputes on a daily basis, many behind the scenes and works his butt off doing so.

Speaking from my own experiences dealing with disputes(many at the sametime) and not NEARLY in the same capacity as Wilheim does, it is very difficult to if not impossible to begin a case without the actual player contacting us in some capacity.

Understand, in this business there is for a better term, a lot of "smoke" being started a lot of times over nothing(and CERTAINLY NOT saying that is the case here).

Anyway, Im a terrible writer so not sure if this coming through like it should...............BUT understand that WILHEIM has dealt personally with every dispute thrown his way about BOS since they have become an advertiser and to the best of my knowledge in every circumstance the situation has been taken care of to the satisfaction of all parties involved.

Again, for what WILHEIM does for this industry as a whole and the positive influence he brings, believe you should go a little easier on him.

His job is one that very, very few hear could do for ONE week, let alone beyond a year.................trust me on this buddy and believe me that Wil and any other mod will do the very best they can to help any poster if they come forward.

Just so you know that I am not kissing ass here, I would say this for the majority, if not all, watchdog/forum sites that have individuals that try to help players.............The Bill Doziers, Generals, Majors, SbrJohns, Wilheims, etc., etc of the forum world............and the majority of mods that are affiliated with these sites.

 

[bigbet1234]

Let me repeat, I have NOTHING against Betmil or BoS. Never a problem on my end. I happen to read some alarming news on another site, wanted to see if I could get some information on what was going on. PERIOD DUMMY

BB

Oops. Make up your melon bigbet.


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Something POSITIVE to say about Betonsports.....
<HR style="COLOR: #fdde82" SIZE=1><!-- / icon and title --><!-- message -->Seems everyone is bashing them all the time. I took advantage of their 50% CASH bonus deal.

Ran up a hefty balance. And was paid my entire balance in 3 days. They offer 10K per day FREE Via neteller, which is GREAT.

Their customer service was always very helpful and polite of chat and on the phone. I found some nice vaule there at time, and while mostly betting the limit (5K online) never once had my limits cut or a line change.

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Thanks for the endorsement. Should have opened up accounts both here and at BetMill. Double my pleasure, double my fun. You Dummy!


Best Wishes...OF :nopityA:

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Dummy.



Best Wishes...OF :howdy:

 

[BAGIANT]

Apparently they don't want this guy to take a shot at them and win major money. He probably is one of those players that will take a shot for every dime he has in his account, hence his nine reloads, and isn't afraid of losing every dime in an attempt to make a killing. This guy would have obviously have flamed, and I don't know why they pulled the rug out from under him!

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Exactly, anyone that bets his entire wad is going to lose. But they have a loser preference, someone that signs up, never puts them at risk, and slowly loses everything. They are not into the gambling business. This guy did put them at risk. They will tag him nonrecreational, and and use a rule to do whatever they want. Why does this seem like a rerun?

Best Wishes...OF :howdy:

 

[wilheim]

Just for the record; I spoke to Bill Dozer at SBR this morning about the issue. He says the player involved will be posting here at The Rx. and I will do all I can to help him with any problems he has. From what i understand at this point this is mainly about the 50% and 40% bonus deals recently offered at BOS and BetMill. I will inform the forum with any updates as I recieve them..



Bigbet, this is recurring problem with you I can only say if you don't like me or the way I do my job go ahead and complain to mj@martyjensen.com.

Last night I simply responded to the question "wil! did you see the story on SBR about betMill?"

"The problem with dragging stories about sportsbooks from around the internet on to this forum is that there is no opportunity to find out what is actually the truth. There is no actual complaintant to even help or at least hear some details from. Personally I am way to busy to read the other forums".


I don't see what the big deal was..I had no idea about the dispute and said why. The fact is I am to busy to surf around all the different forums. That is just how it is. Dealing with these sportbooks issues is bound to cause friction between myself and posters who feel they have been cheated or slighted in some way, that comes with the job. Anyway do you what you have to do.


wil.

 

[nimue77]

SBR is way more credible than the rx.

The problem with dragging stories about sportsbooks from around the internet on to this forum is that there is no opportunity to find out what is actually the truth. There is no actual complaintant to even help or at least hear some details from. Personally I am way to busy to read the other forums.




wil.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Wil, can I E-Mail Marty, I have a complaint about you using a known peter pumper for your avatar. I know in this day and age sexual orientation should be allowed in any form, politically correct, but I just am not comfortable with that. Keep your eyes above the waist please. Butt Buddy Wally Cox would be rolling in his grave if his ashes were not stashed in your closet.


You are right as far as not allowing unsubstantiated rumors, that has always been the deal. If a poster from another site has a legit beef, they can post here, and it can be handled. The sky would never stop falling if you allowed heresay and rumors.


Best Wishes...OF :toast:



Good luck on this one, all parties involved.

 

[wilheim]

SBR is way more credible than the rx.

Nimue, if that is the case fine I have no problem with that. In fact I talk to Bill Dozer frequently but do not visit the SBR site at all. The operating models of the two sites are different to begin with. The Rx. does not consider itself a sportsbook rating site but instead a sports gambling information site. Should a dispute arise with one of our posters natrually we are very willing to try to help out. The overall focus here is on sportsbetting information which includes things like handicapping and money management. This Offshore forum has evolved over the years away from the classic "watchdog" role that SBR embraces into an general sports information forum.

We do not publish ratings on sportsbooks at all here at The Rx. I would encourage players to take advantage of the ratings used by SBR and know full well some of their ratings are less than flattering when it comes to some Rx. advertisers. Does that cause theis site to lose creditability? perhaps it does but that is a matter of opinion and quite frankly the cost of doing business today.

This dispute was complete news to me at 11PM last night. There was little I could do about it then and even at this point no much until the actual player contacts me.





wil.

 

[Buzzsaw]

TheRx does a great job in disputes. When a book hardens their unfair position its a big benefit to the player to have a site like the Rx come in fresh.

 

[Artie]

I am creating a new thread with my story

 

[wilheim]

I have been in touch by phone with Artie and will do what I can to help.




wil..

 

[Halifax]

Listen chief, quit jumping to conclusions. I pulled my whole balance cause when I asked Shrink if they were sister sites, and told me yes, "the are sista's!"

I noticed the lines were the same, so..........genius, I have a shit load in betmill, so why carry a balance at both, when you get just about the same line?

Wrong, BigBuddy ... BetMill lines are NOT the same as BOS.

BetMill lines are the same as (identical to) the lines at the old VO books (V-Wager, MVPSportsBook, Virtual, BHB, BetVSI, etc.) ... same software and common line movement amongst the books.

Technically, the BOS lines are different ... obviously they will have the same lines on some games, but they have different lines on a lot of the games ... and the BOS lines move independent of the line movement at BetMill.

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And, yes, a lot of the lines are similar between BOS and BetMill, you're correct ... but I bet you knew this BEFORE you sent to both BOS and BetMill for the big bonuses.