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I have to agree with "7", Scott. The majority of western Jewish leaders are reform Jews (at best) who essentially hate themselves and the state of Israel. That's why we see them kissing the cheek of Ahmadinejad. They rank right up there with the likes of Bobby Fischer and all the other self-hating Jews who march in the streets of Manhattan with PLO flags wrapped around their heads.
If it weren't for Evangelicals, the mere idea that Israel has a right to exist wouldn't even be discussed in the west. When will Jews in the west ever wake up? Probably never, as they continue to assimilate and intermarry at a 90% rate in some areas in the desperate attempt to hide their bloodlines, how truly sad.
If it weren't for Evangelicals, the mere idea that Israel has a right to exist wouldn't even be discussed in the west. When will Jews in the west ever wake up? Probably never, as they continue to assimilate and intermarry at a 90% rate in some areas in the desperate attempt to hide their bloodlines, how truly sad.
So we agree that the reform Jews we see on the news hate themselves, but the reform Jews we don't see actually support Israel? There isn't a single reform Jewish movement that fights for the existence of Israel, whereas I could site you countless conservative and orthodox ones who do. Those good organizations actually work together with Evangelicals on this issue, whereas reformers are absent in these efforts.
You know that I'm a proud "Zionist" (oooo, bad word!) and that I feel strong about this issue, but what part of my last post was ridiculous? I think Bobby Fischer is an excellent example of what we've been seeing in the west for quite some time. He's the classic self-hating Jew that would stop at absolutely nothing to deny his bloodline. It makes me sick. And the Jewish intermarriage rate I gave you is 100% accurate as well, it's known as The Silent Holocaust by Jewish scholars.
HK your post was ridiculous because it stereotypes. The irony is you rightly use the word Zionest in its true meaning, then turn around and bastardize the term "reformed Jew." What is wrong with being a secular/reformed Jew?
And what is wrong with marrying someone you fall in love with if they're not of the same religion? And yes, it's ridiculous to say the majority of reformed Jews are anti-Israel as that is patently false. But it is not ridiculous to say that fruitcakes get on the news.
The 'rabbis' who kissed Ahmanutjob are not Jewish in any reasonable person's eyes. They are with hitler.
And back to the topic of this thread. Maybe some Jewish leaders ARE CALLING for the tape to be released. Maybe when Jewish leaders PRESS it doesn't really make the news???
Who is this pickanose guy? Another Rx windup artist?
And what is wrong with marrying someone you fall in love with if they're not of the same religion? And yes, it's ridiculous to say the majority of reformed Jews are anti-Israel as that is patently false. But it is not ridiculous to say that fruitcakes get on the news.
The 'rabbis' who kissed Ahmanutjob are not Jewish in any reasonable person's eyes. They are with hitler.
And back to the topic of this thread. Maybe some Jewish leaders ARE CALLING for the tape to be released. Maybe when Jewish leaders PRESS it doesn't really make the news???
Who is this pickanose guy? Another Rx windup artist?
I absolutely agree with this post.
My entire family on SheBar side is a combination of Reformed and Conservative Jews along with a smaller number or Orthodox.
None "hate themselves or their people".
Gee thank goodness the ol' Evangelicals make sure the Jewish people maintain a proper level of self respect.
Barman, now THAT is a stereotype that IS accurate. I have a cousin who is the rabbi of a reformed Schul is NYC. SHE goes to Israel at least twice a year.
I have a cousin who teaches elementary school in Tel Aviv and half her kids are Arabs and she can't tell the kids apart! Her son is here in Boston and he is also a peacenik. They are all ultra-liberal but they love Israel, and certainly don't hate themselves!
A have a cousin who is a Hasidic Jew. His brother is a pot-smoking hippie who married a Christian in a non-religious ceremony. I could go on and on.
THIS IS THE WORLD HK; GET USED TO IT!
The seculars and reformers are always the first in line to militantly march around with PLO flags and kiss the cheek of the enemy, so you tell me. I'm sorry, I just see these people as weak, self-hating appeasers. They're ashamed of who they are and would rather submit.
It's confusing to the child and changes the generation line. Being Jewish is all about ETHNICITY that traces back to the original covenant with God, a concept I'm sure you understand. So with respect to this subject, when Jews intermarry, they're further losing this most sacred identity which was already robbed from them in the Holocaust. Do you realize how many generation lines were lost? If that event in history hadn't happened, then things might be different in this regard today, but it's not. So, yes, I believe it's a responsibility for Jews to marry within themselves to make sure their identity lives on, and let me tell you, every Jew I know outside of the reform movement (and some within) emphatically agrees.
I'm very much in tune with what's happening with Jews in the west, and maybe that's the world *you* know and are used to, but it's certainly not reality everywhere. Drug use is absolutely not tolerated under any circumstance, it's got to be the most sensitive issue I've noticed about Jewish culture, they're unrelenting in this matter which I've always found very interesting.
