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Question for those who know UCONN well:

I didn't think UCONN was very good last year, and I don't see them as being much of a threat come tourney time this year.
From what i saw last year they could not score outside of 15 ft. at all, am I wrong on this?
I knew St. mary would clown them in the tourney last year, and they did.
They play good defense, I'll give them that, they have the POTENTIAL to score at will it seems from the inside, but I'm not sold on their bigs offensively.
Tourney time is owned by guard play and I just dont see where they get their scoring from.
I'd just pack the paint and let their guards lay bricks up all night.

What am I missing? I dont have them in the top 15 in my rankings.

Not bashing, just want some thoughts on why all these publications think they are a final 4 team.
 

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They actually were more efficient on offense than on defense last year, especially in Big East play. They led the nation in blocked shots...but they didn't force many turnovers or do very well on the defensive glass.

In short though, Jim Calhoun, AJ Price, Hasheem Thabeet.
 

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Question for those who know UCONN well:

I didn't think UCONN was very good last year, and I don't see them as being much of a threat come tourney time this year.
From what i saw last year they could not score outside of 15 ft. at all, am I wrong on this?
I knew St. mary would clown them in the tourney last year, and they did.
They play good defense, I'll give them that, they have the POTENTIAL to score at will it seems from the inside, but I'm not sold on their bigs offensively.
Tourney time is owned by guard play and I just dont see where they get their scoring from.
I'd just pack the paint and let their guards lay bricks up all night.

What am I missing? I dont have them in the top 15 in my rankings.

Not bashing, just want some thoughts on why all these publications think they are a final 4 team.


I agree this team is overrated, but the reason they are Potenially ranked so high is because of Stanley Robinson. He is going to be an All-American this year. He has the kind of talent, combined with the others on the roster that could propel UCONN.

Overall, I agree with your pov on UConn, just not as good as the 2 title temas and the bust team that lost to GMU. However, they play the best defense of practically anyone in the country, in terms of shots blocked and FG% Defense, so they are going to have an opportunity come March. Also, with Thabeet's size and Adrien's ability on the boards, they are going to be a tough out.
 

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Question for those who know UCONN well:

I didn't think UCONN was very good last year, and I don't see them as being much of a threat come tourney time this year.
From what i saw last year they could not score outside of 15 ft. at all, am I wrong on this?
I knew St. mary would clown them in the tourney last year, and they did.
They play good defense, I'll give them that, they have the POTENTIAL to score at will it seems from the inside, but I'm not sold on their bigs offensively.
Tourney time is owned by guard play and I just dont see where they get their scoring from.
I'd just pack the paint and let their guards lay bricks up all night.

What am I missing? I dont have them in the top 15 in my rankings.

Not bashing, just want some thoughts on why all these publications think they are a final 4 team.
Saint mary didn't even play them it was San Diego
 

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UCONN has one of the best and deepest backcourts in the nation.
Guard play wins tournament games, not pivot men.
 

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Because they have a good recruiting class, and a BOAT LOAD of talent returning from last years team.

Does ANYONE know if AJ Price will be back for the start of the season? Remember, he tore his ACL last year in the tournament.

UCONN will be the best of the big east this year, no doubt. Watch out for Syracuse if the Canuck and Eric D. are healthy and ready to go.
 

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Because they have a good recruiting class, and a BOAT LOAD of talent returning from last years team.

Does ANYONE know if AJ Price will be back for the start of the season? Remember, he tore his ACL last year in the tournament.

UCONN will be the best of the big east this year, no doubt. Watch out for Syracuse if the Canuck and Eric D. are healthy and ready to go.

Price had 8 pts and 4 boards in their win over AI
 

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I respectfully disagree with your assessment. This UCONN team is absolutely loaded at every position. AJ Price has recovered from his ACL injury. He may not be at 100% yet, but he will be by the team league play starts. And just in case Price isn't ready to go they brought in a top 15 point guard Kemba Walker. Calhoun says he is the quickest guy on the team, with tremendous speed and passing ability. Also coming off the bench is veteran senior Craig Austrie. He plays tough defense, can knock down the 3, and is a great leader. Those are 2 players coming off the bench that would start for virtually any team in the country. This team is already scary good, with the potential of giving UNC a run for the money as the best team in the country.

BigTenDominator - Stanley Robinson isn't even with the team. He had some off the court issues, and Calhoun gave him the boot. He is trying to plead to get back on the team, but Jim says he needs to work on a few things, and could possibly be back next season. Agree he is a stud though when his head is on straight
 

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Because they have a great coach, tons of talent and everyone is back from last year. They do need to improve on the outside shooting, but they can be dominant inside on both ends.
 

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Have to chime in here too much bad info coming out. Here is the facts:

I am a Uconn alum, played sports there, well connected to the Uconn Athletic program

Stanley Robinson left school. That is correct. He is enrolled for the fall semester, is working out with the team, will rejoin the team in the 2nd semester.

Nate Miles a top 5 recruit, got arrested, and had a restraining order issued against him, 15 min. after it was issued, he violated it (smart kid) and bolted for Idaho St. CC where he scored 55 in the teams 1st game. Big time player, no character. May be at Uconn next yr if Calhoun can pull some strings, otherwise he will be suspended from Uconn and not allowed back

In regards to the comment that Uconn was an offensive team last year, that isn't even close. They led the nation in blocked shots for the 6th straight year, and finished #6 in FG percentage defense at 38.9%! Offensively they shot just 46.3% number 56 in the country, and that is with Thabeet and Adrien doing nothing but scoring on put-backs and dunks for the most part. Their 3pt shooting was horrible, and ranked #142. Not sure where you got the info that Uconn was a stellar offensive team, anything but!

Onto this year:

They will be a much better team in January than they will be in November and December, for 2 simple reasons. They will have Stanley Robinson back, and the minutes Edwards gets in his absence will improve their depth, as well as Ater Majok a 6-10 kid with a big upside, but still raw, and AJ Price should be back to 100% by then off ACL surgery

They got rid of the "cancers" on the team, in Wiggins, and Kelly, both transferred out.

They should be a much better shooting team and are very deep at guard. Price,Dyson, and Austrie are all solid, and add in Kemba Walker, who has shot lights out (promising no guarantee), they have a 6'4" very quick, and athletic skilled guard that will allow them to go 3 guards and run. They have really 4 point guards, or 4 shooting guards, they are interchangable. Walker can play the 3 and create serious matchup problems, on blow bys and take it to the tin, or dish to Thabeet and Adrien both experienced finishers around the hoop.

Thabeet and Adrien both should finish averaging a double-double this year, not many teams in the country that have that, if any. Thabeet simply changes the game, as guards can take more risks, or funnel players into the lane, for altered or blocked shots, and Adrien is there to clean up on the weak side. Teams will play a lot of zone against Uconn, and Austrie is their best PG at breaking down the zone, all should be better from beyond the arc this season, add Walker, and Scottie Haralson (sharp-shooter struggling early), and Donelle Beverly, the Huskies have plenty at the guard position.

When conference play begins they will have Robinson, another gifted athlete, that has a tendency to disappear in games, or take over. If his game has matured, he could be special, if not he is still a gifted athletic player that will make a big contribution. There is also Ater Majok at 6-10, that has a tremendous upside, and is not playing yet, because he has not gotten cleared by the NCAA clearing house, although from what I understand that is coming within the next several days.

The Big East will be a powerhouse this season, so even if the Huskies are as good as advertised, they will lose some games. There are as many as 10 teams that will compete for a spot in the Tourney this year, and it is very possible 9 to a record 10 get in, that's how potent this conf. is.

I think that is ridiculous, but there is the possibility that many get in if everything breaks right.

Not sure if Uconn is the number 2 team in the country, but all the parts are there, and more on the way. If Nate Miles was here, they'd be a final 4 can't miss, without him they are a serious contender, and I'd bet on them being there, more than not being there. Lots of games to play, injuries, etc. everything has to go right, but the parts are there, and the experience is there, and certainly the guard play is there.
 

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In regards to the comment that Uconn was an offensive team last year, that isn't even close. They led the nation in blocked shots for the 6th straight year, and finished #6 in FG percentage defense at 38.9%! Offensively they shot just 46.3% number 56 in the country, and that is with Thabeet and Adrien doing nothing but scoring on put-backs and dunks for the most part. Their 3pt shooting was horrible, and ranked #142. Not sure where you got the info that Uconn was a stellar offensive team, anything but!

Uconn in the big east last year:

PPP (points per possession): 1.11 (1st)
PAPP (points allowed per possession): 1.02 (8th)

If you read my entire post: "They led the nation in blocked shots...but they didn't force many turnovers or do very well on the defensive glass."

Are they capable on D? Absolutely, the shooting percentage numbers are true and it's shocking at how many PPP they allowed last year...the problem was defensive rebounding, something they could easily correct as they have the athletes to do so - and that's why they could be so dangerous this year. But last year believe it or not the numbers show that they were actually more efficient on offense than defense. On offense they didn't turn it over too much, got to the line about as good as anyone in the land (and hit 72%) and hit the offensive glass very hard. I expect the defensive issues to be solved this year and that is what is truly scary about this team to me.
 

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Have to chime in here too much bad info coming out. Here is the facts:

I am a Uconn alum, played sports there, well connected to the Uconn Athletic program

Stanley Robinson left school. That is correct. He is enrolled for the fall semester, is working out with the team, will rejoin the team in the 2nd semester.

Nate Miles a top 5 recruit, got arrested, and had a restraining order issued against him, 15 min. after it was issued, he violated it (smart kid) and bolted for Idaho St. CC where he scored 55 in the teams 1st game. Big time player, no character. May be at Uconn next yr if Calhoun can pull some strings, otherwise he will be suspended from Uconn and not allowed back

In regards to the comment that Uconn was an offensive team last year, that isn't even close. They led the nation in blocked shots for the 6th straight year, and finished #6 in FG percentage defense at 38.9%! Offensively they shot just 46.3% number 56 in the country, and that is with Thabeet and Adrien doing nothing but scoring on put-backs and dunks for the most part. Their 3pt shooting was horrible, and ranked #142. Not sure where you got the info that Uconn was a stellar offensive team, anything but!

Onto this year:

They will be a much better team in January than they will be in November and December, for 2 simple reasons. They will have Stanley Robinson back, and the minutes Edwards gets in his absence will improve their depth, as well as Ater Majok a 6-10 kid with a big upside, but still raw, and AJ Price should be back to 100% by then off ACL surgery

They got rid of the "cancers" on the team, in Wiggins, and Kelly, both transferred out.

They should be a much better shooting team and are very deep at guard. Price,Dyson, and Austrie are all solid, and add in Kemba Walker, who has shot lights out (promising no guarantee), they have a 6'4" very quick, and athletic skilled guard that will allow them to go 3 guards and run. They have really 4 point guards, or 4 shooting guards, they are interchangable. Walker can play the 3 and create serious matchup problems, on blow bys and take it to the tin, or dish to Thabeet and Adrien both experienced finishers around the hoop.

Thabeet and Adrien both should finish averaging a double-double this year, not many teams in the country that have that, if any. Thabeet simply changes the game, as guards can take more risks, or funnel players into the lane, for altered or blocked shots, and Adrien is there to clean up on the weak side. Teams will play a lot of zone against Uconn, and Austrie is their best PG at breaking down the zone, all should be better from beyond the arc this season, add Walker, and Scottie Haralson (sharp-shooter struggling early), and Donelle Beverly, the Huskies have plenty at the guard position.

When conference play begins they will have Robinson, another gifted athlete, that has a tendency to disappear in games, or take over. If his game has matured, he could be special, if not he is still a gifted athletic player that will make a big contribution. There is also Ater Majok at 6-10, that has a tremendous upside, and is not playing yet, because he has not gotten cleared by the NCAA clearing house, although from what I understand that is coming within the next several days.

The Big East will be a powerhouse this season, so even if the Huskies are as good as advertised, they will lose some games. There are as many as 10 teams that will compete for a spot in the Tourney this year, and it is very possible 9 to a record 10 get in, that's how potent this conf. is.

I think that is ridiculous, but there is the possibility that many get in if everything breaks right.

Not sure if Uconn is the number 2 team in the country, but all the parts are there, and more on the way. If Nate Miles was here, they'd be a final 4 can't miss, without him they are a serious contender, and I'd bet on them being there, more than not being there. Lots of games to play, injuries, etc. everything has to go right, but the parts are there, and the experience is there, and certainly the guard play is there.


thanks for the input. good stuff. that was the last I heard of the Robinson issue. this is good to know
 

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