Why don't we just outsource all jobs in America.

[codeworks]

Alex -

another problem is corporate greed plain and simple. These guys are selling out America. The world war 2 fighters would be rolling in their graves to have learned that they fought for India and China

 

[codeworks]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jointpleasures:
Mass Mil,

If manufacturing is your baby, then start your own manufacturing company. Otherwise, maybe, just maybe, change your field. Advances occur in the world now at lighting speed, what was once popular, may no longer be so. Adapting to changes is crucial. Heck, I know people who don't even know what a hard drive is.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Start you own manufacturing company

And compete with the China outsourcing prices.

Can't be done.

By the way I hate Walmart !

 

[dickman]

Codeworks,

You are absolutely correct. Nevertheless, corporations have to make a profit and provide results to share holders. If congress tried to pass tax cuts on corporate profits so that it could be an incentive to stay in America, how would the american public react? Especially lower income families.

Nevertheless, you may cut all the taxes and they still may go abroad. Would you blame them?
If you had a business of your own would you stay in America knowing that fact that you would save hundreds of thousands of dollars or possbily millions abroad?

It is a complicated issue and whomever is president after 2004 will not find the answer whether that be Kerry, Edwards, or Bush.

I will not include Ralph Nader because most likely he will lose a lot potential democratic votes.

 

[codeworks]

Alex

You sound like a smart person, I agree that Kerry will not solve the problem, but this country should be able to get their collective heads together and come up with a solution.

We have not hit bottom yet but eventually we will and things will get straightened out.

 

[jointpleasures]

codeworks,

I wish mom and pops stores could compete with big corporations but why would anyone spend 150 dollars on the same items they can get for 125 dollars? You will find the liberals shopping at these places to save money out of their own pocket, but they want the income tax payers to pay more out of theirs?

Hypocrites. Getting the government out of business is what needs to be done but that idiot FDR screwed this country up good.

 

[Massmilwaukee]

JP,

True enough. After college I helped start a small panel shop with one friend and one then customer of mine. All was going well until the middle of 2000. About that time companies quit investing in new machinery and actually started decreasing their Maintenance and Repair Operations budgets. The jobs that were available were being quoted by large panel shops at cutthroat prices, prices we couldn't even manage to buy hardware and components at. These panel shops and integrators desperately needed the business because their large accounts were becoming “assembly” hubs. This meant that all components were being made elsewhere, but shipped to the states for assembly. This will change too… as soon as the US is no longer the #1 consumer in the world, assembly will move to whatever region is.
We had very low overhead due to the number of employees, our dependency on distributors and the payment structure we implemented, but even with this low overhead, we simply could not compete for the fewer jobs. The manufacturing sector in the States use to be able to support an entire network of auxiliary businesses… but no longer my friend, and soon the assembly jobs will move overseas as well. Every piece of consumable we buy in the near future will made, assembled and marketed overseas.

 

[codeworks]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by jointpleasures:
codeworks,

I wish mom and pops stores could compete with big corporations but why would anyone spend 150 dollars on the same items they can get for 125 dollars? You will find the liberals shopping at these places to save money out of their own pocket, but they want the income tax payers to pay more out of theirs?

Hypocrites. Getting the government out of business is what needs to be done but that idiot FDR screwed this country up good.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Then why did you make a suggestion to start up a manufacturing company when you knew it is not feasible

 

[jointpleasures]

Codeworks,

Demand for the product you manufacture will determine if it is feasible, will it not? I have a pentium III and see no reason why I NEED a pentium IV.

 

[codeworks]

That statement was true years ago but now its all about the product being built cheap overseas. This is not a fair playing ground and the American worker is being wooddshedded right now. One can only hope that we put restrictions on this just like their are restritions in this capitalist country such as Antitrust laws and laws against price fixing and tons of subsidizing

There is hope for this country.

 

[jointpleasures]

Higher cost of production = higher cost of purchase. That computer I bought for 1500 bucks would cost me what? That outfit I bought my kid would cost me what? The five pound bag of carrots and a grapefruit will cost what?

 

[codeworks]

joint -

They will be no consumers to buy things at this rate of otusourcing, It is in its infantile state.

And I am not so sure that the price will come down in relation to productuion. Corporate greed is a powerful thing. Just more for the taking by the very few. Remember the Gov't can step in a help this issue along. It sure helped with Chrysler

 

[jointpleasures]

codeworks,

Don't know if you got my point or not. I'm saying prices will soar out of site if there was no outsourcing. I apparently don't look at corporations, or there heads, as negatively as yourself either.

 

[jointpleasures]

The government should keep their dirty mittens out of business all together. Even the bailouts of the airline industry after 9/11 was not a good thing, IMO. I suppose though they felt they should bear a large part of the resposibility of the airlines as our intelligence and defenses were down after eight years of Clinton.

 

[codeworks]

Joint -

America has always pervailed and this will work its way through, I agree that the prodcuts are affordable. I just hope that there will be jobs for my kids that pay well and allow for them to live out the american dream........ death and taxes