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Veterans denied permit to Pray for Peace at Riverside Ca., VA cemetaryby trbell



Sat Feb 19th, 2005 at 17:09:31 PST

The Bush administration has denied Veterans for Peace the right to hold a prayerful ceremony for peace and to honor the US dead in the Iraq war at the Riverside National Cemetery in California.



The ceremony had been approved by cemetery special events coordinator Ray
>Beltran. Cemetery Director Mark Maynard later said a government official in
>Oakland wanted to know more about the content of the peace ceremony. When
>the veterans provided that information the ceremony request was denied.
>Maynard said that they did not want "veterans slamming the current
>administration about policies since 9-11".

Tom Swann, President of the Riverside San Bernardino Veterans for Peace
>(RSVP) said Mr. Maynard's letter is self-explanatory. If you say you
>support the troops and place a wreath you are on message. If you say you
>support the troops so much you want to pray they can come home you are off
>message. Jesus Christ said "Blessed are the peacemakers". When did peace
>become a dirty word? Pope John Paul II said, "war is always a defeat for
>humanity".

Mr. Maynard said in his letter that "according to title 38, United States Code, section 2403(c)" ..."Maynard read from a federal law Thursday that says you cannot say anything
>in opposition to the government at national cemeteries. He interpreted the
>term "government" to mean the party in control. He would not elaborate if
>Senator Barbara Boxer is part of the government. Maynard said he did not
>know if the new rules were enacted under the Patriot Act.
>

Well folks...here is the entire title 38, US code, section 2403:

TITLE 38 > PART II > CHAPTER 24 > ? 2403
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? 2403. Memorial areas

Release date: 2003-06-24

(a) The Secretary shall set aside, when available, suitable areas in national cemeteries to honor the memory of members of the Armed Forces and veterans?

(1) who are missing in action;

(2) whose remains have not been recovered or identified;

(3) whose remains were buried at sea, whether by the member?s or veteran?s own choice or otherwise;

(4) whose remains were donated to science; or

(5) whose remains were cremated and the ashes scattered without interment of any portion of the ashes.

(b) Under regulations prescribed by the Secretary, group memorials may be placed to honor the memory of groups of individuals referred to in subsection (a), and appropriate memorial headstones and markers may be placed to honor the memory of individuals referred to in subsection (a) and section 2306 (b) of this title.

(c) All national and other veterans? cemeteries under the control of the National Cemetery Administration shall be considered national shrines as a tribute to our gallant dead and, notwithstanding the provisions of any other law, the Secretary is hereby authorized to permit appropriate officials to fly the flag of the United States of America at such cemeteries twenty-four hours each day.

Now, according to my sources, this code was current as of January 7th, 2005. Unless it has been changed, I do not see anything in the code that refers to speech at National cemeteries.

Swann feels the Bush administration is selectively enforcing these new
>rules. Swann said that "GOP Congressman Ken Calvert can speak at the
>cemetery about his support for the war but Rep. Joe Baca cannot say he
>voted against the war".

Swann further said it was incorrect for Mr. Maynard to accused the veterans
>of being partisan. All of the participating veteran groups are
>not-for-profit and cannot endorse candidates. The March 5 program included
>a proclamation from Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenager. Bill Ray,
>military affairs adviser to House Armed Services Committee member Loretta
>Sanchez was scheduled to speak March 5. Federal employees cannot engage in
>partisan politics. The program included church ministers. Swann asked
>"since when did praying for peace become a partisan endeavor"?
>

Indeed, since when has "Peace" become the idea that dare not speak its name?

If any of you live in Southern California in these Representatives district, please consider calling your Reps. or Senator Boxer and pressing them to have this situation reversed. I will be speaking to Mr. Maynard on Monday if he will take my call to get more info on this story. Will keep you posted.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/2/19/20931/6141
 
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Same guy who does want the caskets shown and has attended ONE funeral for American dead ...

Some great "spiritual" leader this country has
 

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Do you have records on how many funerals Lyndon B Johnson went to? How about FDR? I, for one, would rather have the President concentrating on winning the war on terror than going to funerals. I'm sure most normal Americans would agree.
 

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Redneckman said:
I, for one, would rather have the President concentrating on winning the war on terror than going to funerals. I'm sure most normal Americans would agree.
another brilliant quote from such an illiterate self serving american...You dont think attending 1-2 funerals would give the President a better perspective on the war...incredible you sir have just redefined illiterate inbred right wing anal taking it up da ass american...Your Type makes me SICK..Jack ass
 
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Jimmy Carter attended a memorial service for the soldiers killed in the failed rescue of America hostages in Iran in 1980 .... Bill Clinton attended a service in October 2000 in memory of the 17 sailors killed in the attack on the USS Cole

George W Bush is the only President in American history to never attend at least a few of the funerals for soldiers fallen under his command. Further, Bush's is the only White House not to send emissarys to funerals for all

Enough said???
 

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damn doc thats pretty rotten. but he goes to clinton library opening of all things. makes no sense.

report you had claiming "damaged goods" not too far off the mark?
 

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You clowns just don't get it. You're all into this symbolism over substance b.s., "it's the thought that counts" mantra. Well, you liberals can worry about your symbolism all you want, it doesn't get crap done. Bush has been to several memorial services, it just doesn't fit your kook agenda to admit it. You keep worrying about symbolism over substance, we'll keep worrying about making progress in the war on terror, jackasses. Get out of the way.
 
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Redneck:

You hang in there ... we can get ya some help with a local shrink cause ya starting to sound like Anne Coulter
 

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You seem to be one of the last ones that have yet to put me on ignore...Its going to be a pleasure taken you apart...after all if we judge you by your intelligence i would say you are the spitting twin of Jeff Gannon.....taken it up da ass for the GOP!!!! How admirable of you!!!!
 

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and another thing

Redneckman said:
You clowns just don't get it. You're all into this symbolism over substance b.s., "it's the thought that counts" mantra. Well, you liberals can worry about your symbolism all you want, it doesn't get crap done. Bush has been to several memorial services, it just doesn't fit your kook agenda to admit it. You keep worrying about symbolism over substance, we'll keep worrying about making progress in the war on terror, jackasses. Get out of the way.
Congrates this is the longest use of words I have yet to see from You!
 

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