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Republicans Screw Soldiers & Vets - Yet Again
by DavidNYC
Wed Mar 2nd, 2005 at 09:59:34 PST

As you probably know, the GOP is pushing an utterly abominable bankruptcy "reform" bill through Congress, which, true to form, serves only the interests of big lenders while hosing ordinary Americans. Democrats in the Senate offered an amendment to mitigate this wretched bill's effects on our armed forces. The Republicans, of course, derailed it:



The Senate rejected Tuesday an effort backed by Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., to exempt service members from some of the tighter bankruptcy restrictions Congress is considering.

Instead, the Senate approved a Republican-backed amendment that Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois, the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate, said is not good enough.

"Is it too much to ask to give them a break if the bottom falls out while they're serving America?" Durbin said.

... "It's just not right (that) those who we have called upon to make the ultimate physical sacrifice -- loss of life or limb -- should also be forced to make the ultimate financial sacrifice," Bayh said. (Emphasis added.)




The Democratic Party is the only party today which cares about the health and welfare of our military and veterans. Unfortunately, the Republicans are getting credit for passing their half-assed military exemption amendment - just look at the press coverage. Most headlines say something like, "Senate OKs Military Bankruptcy Exemption," and the articles make the GOP sound good, too. (Thanks, AP.)

Regardless of what happens with the various Democratic amendments, Atrios is completely right about this bill:

This is a pure corporate whore bill. Unlike even "tort reform" which [...] gives the GOP base orgasmic pleasure for some bizarre reason, there is no popular support for this thing. Not one voter is going to decide to vote against a Democrat because s/he voted against this thing. It's a horrible bill, and shame on anyone who votes for it.

http://dailykos.com/story/2005/3/2/125934/4378
 

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The Bankruptcy myth is that most bankruptcies are a result of personal irresponsibility. Recent studies (to which I unfoturtunately do not have a link) found that half of bankruptcies were caused by medical bills people could not pay. And some of these people had medical insurance.



So here is the compassionate conservative approach:

  1. <LI value=1>Remove support for medical services

    <LI value=2>Tighten the screws on bankruptcy
  2. Sit back and enjoy the show
Just Google "Harvard bankruptcy study" - you'll get plenty of links.
 
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Why Stop at the Veterans, how bout seniors with medicare, and killing them finacially while they jerk off with the pharmicutical companies profits? How bout the young as they mortgage their futures with deficeits higher than the eye can see all for a useless war that kills them for Dick Cheney's and his pals monetary opps. It's sad indeed. How long before America stops listening to the heroin hillbilly addicts and the sex-crazed falafel faces that spew the lies that destroy this country? Hope we still have a country when this madness ends.
 
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How about credit card companies, that at their discretion can jack up your interest rate 10 points? Or those loan sharking outfits called payday loans. They won't touch them will they?
 
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How about something called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. It's the credit card companies fault that you're in debt?
 
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I bet you're a big fan of Donald "The Donald" Trump aren't you. It's okay for that a$$hole to default on something like 8 or was it 80 million dollars of debt. A fine example of the neoclowns "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY". Large corporations go bankrupt all the time leaving there employees jobless and a lot of times losing their retirement benefits, wonderful examples of "PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY". I'm sure if Doc's around he will enlighten you on the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY of the Bush boys. So please before you start the PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY song and dance look to YOUR leaders and see just how responsible they are.
And I'm not in debt but I have been. And my interest rate on a card was jacked 10 points for NO REASON. Just because they could. I paid the card off immediately and cut it up. I've also known people who through no fault of their own have gotten on the payday loan merry-go-round, they put mobsters in jail for doing the same thing.

WTF do you live in an ivory tower or what?
 

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Great summation, Fidel!

MBNA(largest issuer of credit cards in world) was largest contributor to Bush and similar fascist puppets that are intent on turning America into an impoverished third world country with a destroyed middle class and themselves at the top. The Mexico model is their goal.
 

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Bankruptcy is the antithesis of personal resoponsibility whether it is done by Donald Trump or Mr. Middle Class. It just seems so immoral that someone can wake up one day and say: "I don't feel like paying back any of the money people lent to me."
 
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SENDITIN said:
How about something called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY. It's the credit card companies fault that you're in debt?

:103631605
 
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christof said:
Bankruptcy is the antithesis of personal resoponsibility whether it is done by Donald Trump or Mr. Middle Class. It just seems so immoral that someone can wake up one day and say: "I don't feel like paying back any of the money people lent to me."

:103631605
 
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Ghees ... lets get real

Cheney & Bush giving a crap about veterans? That is laughable!
 
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hmmm, let's see. the question is "why do republicans hate veterans"? well, i am a republican and i am very grateful to veterans. not just of this war but of all wars.

what do you think john mccain, republican senator from arizona and hopefully the next president of the u.s., thinks about veterans? think he hates them?

what a stupid thread.
 

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Show me a soldier in the airport returning home from Iraq and I'll lay -200 that he voted for Bush...I'll still make a profit.
 
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Shotgun said:
Show me a soldier in the airport returning home from Iraq and I'll lay -200 that he voted for Bush...I'll still make a profit.

:103631605
 
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lol, ya thats it. they voted to stay at war and away from their familys.
 
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I'm a veteran (still in the reserves) and a Republican....and I hate myself!! So, I guess you're right!!

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Basically, what I read from most of these posts is that some of you think "the Republicans" should support raising taxes to more than 50% of our income so that we can fund EVERY social program on the table (I say, "Republicans" because it seems that the Democrats already support a Socialistic-type-60% tax society anyways!). Did I get that right?

The simple question is: How will these programs be paid for? This thread focuses on "Veterans". Where does the money come from? The Money Trees? Squeezed from a rock? Probably not.....
 
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RobFunk said:
lol, ya thats it. they voted to stay at war and away from their familys.

why do you think they joined the military rob? to stay state-side and collect a paycheck? well, maybe some guys think that way but i'd bet most believe they have a job to do. this war in iraq is not without its problems and i am not convinced that we went there for the right reasons but, the bottom line is that most of those guys feel like they are doing their jobs and serving their country and i agree.

also, i think it is common knowledge that in general, those in the military vote rebulican.
 
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well since the rupublicans havent done anything for people making under 250k as far as tax breaks go, i would say all the enormous tax breaks the super rich got for no reason would need some rolling back and then we probably wouldnt have too much problem helping our veterans instead of being able to drive a different '05 luxury car every day.


its tough to decide i know. .15 mansions each for all my rich buddys or help the vets
 
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blue edwards said:
why do you think they joined the military rob? to stay state-side and collect a paycheck? well, maybe some guys think that way but i'd bet most believe they have a job to do. this war in iraq is not without its problems and i am not convinced that we went there for the right reasons but, the bottom line is that most of those guys feel like they are doing their jobs and serving their country and i agree.

also, i think it is common knowledge that in general, those in the military vote rebulican.
yes but you read the quotes from the soliders in usa today and things like that "i want to fight for my country, not for a free iraq" it just makes you sick

and blue i dont think republican and miltary go hand in hand theyre pratically kidnapping children at the mall who just turned 18 and shipping them out to put their lives in danger. were you thinking about being a proud republican at 18? maybe you said it, but you didnt know much about. alex keaton was a republican at 18 but thats a sitcom he did it to be funny
 
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rob, don't most people (including vets) work for companies owned or run by people who make $250,000 or higher? making it tougher on the "super rich" as you call them, would only result in them cutting jobs and/or pay of the average joe.



and that is a fact. print it.
 

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