Why are the Canadiens so opinionated in regards to America and Goerge Bush?

volhound · Jul 1, 2004

I mean no disrespect, everyone has the right to their own opinion. It just seems like the Canadiens here at the RX hate George Bush and America's policies.
How does it affect you? I don't give a damn about Canada's political system. I just think that you are our friendly neighbor to the north that says "eh" after your sentences.
If Canada were ever attacked, I think that America would help you too. Yall get a free ride due to proximity on the same continent.
Why would you care who our president is?

I am not happy with my presdent either. I am not happy with our choices in November either.
But by God I vote and I am a patriot and I have a right to complain.
It's like calling your mother a bitch - it's fine, but nobody else can do it without pissin me off.

vol

Journeyman · Jul 1, 2004

Canada does get a free ride...This country amazes me, they're in the best position right next door to the Worlds only SuperPower...a spoiled nation imo....

No offense Canadian Rxers!

volhound · Jul 1, 2004

pretty damn funny journey

I like Canada -- seems like yall got it made as a whole.

I just wonder why yall care

vol

angusr · Jul 1, 2004

I'm not sure what your point is. Doesn't it seem obvious that since the U.S. is Canada's biggest trading partner and only neighbour that Canadians would care about U.S. policy? U.S. economic policy has a huge effect on Canada. U.S. social policy also has a huge, albeit indirect, effect on Canada. Cripes - is it a crime to have an opinion? Canadians can't vote in your elections, so why don't y'all just relax?

xpanda · Jul 1, 2004

Well, I can't speak for all of us, but in my circle of friends, discussing American politics, at least to this degree, is fairly new. Our economies are linked, for one. The US is our largest trading partner, we are (according to something I read briefly) your second largest. So that plays a role. More significantly, however, is the fact that most of us live within a couple of hours of your border, and view the actions of the Bush admin as wholy dangerous and putting us in a precarious position. In other words, what goes on south of the border impacts us significantly, like it or not. The same is not likely true in reverse.

Canadians, by and large, consider our country to be among the most peaceable on earth. We don't really want a military, just a peacekeeping force. Our foreign policy tends to be of the 'path of least resistance' and 'live and let live' variety; we just don't understand what the hell Bush is doing.

Very specifically, and what led me to this forum, is the fact that one of my best friends is from Baghdad. My interest in that region has skyrocketed because of him.

It's nearly impossible in this day and age to be interested in international affairs and not have a fair bit of knowledge of, or interest in, American politics. If you're to be the biggest power, in all respects, you have to foresee scrutiny from the rest of the world.

volhound · Jul 1, 2004

Angus

I wasn't making a point just asking a question.
No it doesn't seem obvious to me - that is why I was asking. The fact that the U.S.is Canada's biggest trading partner should have been obvious -- hell the U.S. is everybody's biggest trading partner -- I'll add Canada to the list. So you sorta answered my question, I just don't think that the mad Canadiens are worked up over trade relations.
I never hear how it relates to them or their lives.
Tell me to relax, you are the one who got your dander up.
I am just trying to understand.
Find a bitch fight with someone else, I am not looking to argue with anyone - just insight

vol

SENDITIN · Jul 1, 2004

Very specifically, and what led me to this forum, is the fact that one of my best friends is from Baghdad.

Is his name Chemical Ali?

volhound · Jul 1, 2004

Thanks xpanda

pretty good insight, I look at Canada how you described it; I don't look at America the way you do.

I don't know what Bush is doing either, I just don't believe many Canadiens are truly affected in their everyday life by Bush, unless they work over the border or something of that sort, and then if they didn't like working over here or working with us, I would advise them to remove themselves and go live where they can be happy.

vol

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lander · Jul 1, 2004

The majority of the world, including America for that matter, hates genocidal George W BusHilter.

Why does it surprise you that Canada would feel the same? After all, they're a more liberal and social country than ours.

Journeyman · Jul 1, 2004

why is Canada such so much more peaceful...what is the key to this?

bblight · Jul 1, 2004

This whole Canada thing is fairly simple - the Canadians that don't like us are Quebecois - Frenchmen through and through. They think like the French, they act like the French, and they're jealous of the USA, just like the French.

The Canadians that like us are Americans.

Then there are the commies like Lander - even the French aren't that ignorant!

Viva l'America!

bblight · Jul 1, 2004

Journeyman - why don't you check out how the Canadians handle their Indian (as in American Indian) problem.

Peaceful - hmmmmmm!

Let's get a few Canadian Injuns in here and see how they feel about the Canadin government.

Any Cree or Blackfoot indians out there?

xpanda · Jul 1, 2004

Journey: good question. We advocate tolerance on a constant basis here. PCness Regulated, so to speak. Pearson intruced peacekeeping for our military which of course dictates our foreign policy. We have strong social programs and generally feel good about that. So it's in the fabric, I guess.

xpanda · Jul 1, 2004

BBlight: we have treated our native population horribly, and continue to do so. It's something we have to prioritise and attempt to correct. Native self-gov't has been on the table for awhile, and I think it should be advocated.

PatPatriot · Jul 1, 2004

Vol..this is how they get away with being Mr. Nice guy with their people. by giving all the freebies and entitlements, because they don't have to spend shit on a military.Then shit all over the US at every chance.
Some might call them and other countries "Freedom Moochers"

volhound · Jul 1, 2004

Feedom Moochers

that's some funny shit

Oceans11 · Jul 1, 2004

Its all relative.

If your a seal then the Canadians are a bunch of genocidal facists.

Americans take their frustrations out on other civilisations who shoot back, it gives them more of a challenge.

volhound · Jul 2, 2004

the wind blows hardest at the top of the flagpole

GAMEFACE · Jul 2, 2004

America does all the heavy lifting. Canada is just another country that takes full advantage of Americas kindness. How long would it have taken Russia or China or Iraq for that matter to take Canada through out history. They should be thinking GOD everyday that we are their friendly neighbor.

I see it this way,

It is not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbled (in the case America) or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena; whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who errs and comes up short again and again; who knows the great enthusiasms; the great devotions and spends himself in a worthy cause; who knows in the end the triumph of high achievements, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly; so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither defeat nor victory.

Theodore Roosevelt
April 10, 1899

[This message was edited by GAMEFACE on July 02, 2004 at 06:14 PM.]

American · Jul 2, 2004

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Journeyman:
why is Canada such so much more peaceful...what is the key to this?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

The key to Canada being peaceful and able to pursue "paths of least resistence" is it's close proximity and relationship to the United States. If Canada had Iraq below them and Iran to the north, they wouldn't be so happy-go-f*cking-lucky.