WHY?????? (an olive branch)

[Ego74]

Why are you Libs so angry?????? Why do you guys hate Bush so much anyway? It must really be all over for the Kerry campaign. I didn't see this much anger from you guys towards Osama right after 9/11.

I'm not a John Kerry fan at all. But, if he did win the election, I'd support the guy and wish him well. I'd hope he'd do a good job, especially with all that's going on with the war and terrorism in general. I surely wouldn't root for the bad guys, like it seems some of you have been. It's become almost orgasmic with how you guys keep score of deaths in Iraq. I just don't understand it.

I didn't think to much of the Clinton's, but I didn't hate them. I think Pres. Clinton did a fairly good job in his 8 yrs. I actually fault the Republican Congress for not working with him after the Lewinsky scandal. A lot coud've been accomplished those last 2 yrs, but the Republicans refused try to get along. Why the intense hate guys????????

If Kerry were to be elected, which I doubt at this point, it's still very close, though, I'll be the first from my side of the aisle to congratulate him and wish him well. If he's the John Kerry from the 3 debates and not the flip flopping Kerry from January to September, he could do a lot of good for the country.
I'm really concerned about the deficit, the war, and the future of this country, and i wouldn't want to see things get worse, just so the GOP can win back the White House in 2008.

Can we have one debate in here over the issues, without all the namecalling and anti-Bush crap?? I know it's easy to call names and post F.U. icons over a computer, i seriously doubt you'd do it sitting across the table. The next four years are gonna change the world and either Bush or Kerry will be making the key decisions.

Bush is far from perfect, for sure. He's no Ronald Reagan. He's not even Bill Clinton. Yeah, i would take Clinton over Bush if that was the choice. I supported John McCain in 2000. Maybe that's why i can't TOTALLY embrace Bush. I believe he will hurt the GOP in the long run if he drifts farther to the right in his 2nd term. But, I do not HATE the guy. But, i do feel the need to defend the guy when people are so hateful.

Hopefully in the next 2 weeks, we can debate the issues, instead of all the Bush is an idiot/Kerry betrayed the country 35 years ago rhetoric.

 

[wilheim]

Bush chose to run from his duty and hide in the National Guard while more than 50,000 young Americans were being killed in a needless war. He used political influence to shirk his duty - bottom line thats a coward in my book no matter how unpopular the war.




wil.

 

[JudgeWapner]

Ego,I just don't like the guy.I think it's his arrogance.But if he is re-elected he is our president,and I hope he will make wise descions.

 

[stacilu]

Judge and all


Arrogant and stupid very bad combo. He will not be able to make
wise decisions because he is surrounded by people only concerned
with their own welfare and the welfare of the privileged.

Ego

Do you really think it is only the "libs," that are angry.
If that was true this election wouldn't be as close as
it is. Many more voters than just the "libs," whatever
the hell that means.

 

[JudgeWapner]

Stacilu,I tend to agree with you ,but hope he wakes up for the good of our country.

 

[lander]

I thought Dum Dum was the one that was making faces and scowling?? Seemed a bit angry for somebody that had four years to practice being "presidential."

Oh, and the mis-guided Swift Boaters -- they're not an angry group?

C'mmon, I know Rove thought it was clever to make clowns like you say that Dean was "too angry" ... but isn't about time you stopped sucking on Papa Rove's nipples and fed your yourself the truth?

 

[GAMEFACE]

Ego,

Liberals hated Reagan also and history will judge Reagan as one of Americas best ever.

 

[VOLTITAN]

Bush chose to run from his duty and hide in the National Guard while more than 50,000 young Americans were being killed in a needless war. He used political influence to shirk his duty - bottom line thats a coward in my book no matter how unpopular the war.



wil.

Wil, I guess you voted for W's dad and Dole then huh? We all know Slick Wille's actions during the Vietnam war.

From Clinton's ROTC Letter (not entire letter)
As Entered in Congressional Record (Page: H5550) 7/30/93
Dear Col. Holmes,
I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing,about what I want to and ought to say.
First, I want to thank you, not only for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been.

I have written and spoken and marched against the war. One of the national organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine. After I left Arkansas last summer, I went to Washington to work in the national headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans here for demonstrations October 15 and November 16.

Because of my opposition to the draft and the war, I am in great sympathy with those who are not willing to fight, kill, and maybe die for their country (i.e. the particular policy of a particular government) right or wrong.

After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program itself and all I seem to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I had begun to think that I had deceived you, not by lies--there were none--but by failing to tell you all of the things I'm telling you now.

Finally, on September 12 I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft board, saying basically what is in the preceding paragraph, thanking him for trying to help in a case where he really couldn't, and stating that I couldn't do the ROTC after all and would he please draft me as soon as possible.
I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it with me every day until I got on the plane to return to England. I didn't mail the letter because I didn't see, in the end, how my going in the army and maybe going to Vietnam would achieve anything except a feeling that I had punished myself and gotten what I deserved. So I came back to England to try to make something of the second year of my Rhodes scholarship.

I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes and the best service you could give.

 

[DarrylParsons]

Ego,



To understand leftist psychology better, have a look at these excerpts from the Unabomber's Manifesto...



15. Leftists tend to hate anything that has an image of being strong, good and successful. They hate America, they hate Western civilization, they hate white males, they hate rationality. The reasons that leftists give for hating the West, etc. clearly do not correspond with their real motives. They SAY they hate the West because it is warlike, imperialistic, sexist, ethnocentric and so forth, but where these same faults appear in socialist countries or in primitive cultures, the leftist finds excuses for them, or at best he GRUDGINGLY admits that they exist; whereas he ENTHUSIASTICALLY points out (and often greatly exaggerates) these faults where they appear in Western civilization. Thus it is clear that these faults are not the leftist's real motive for hating America and the West. He hates America and the West because they are strong and successful.

16. Words like "self-confidence," "self-reliance," "initiative", "enterprise," "optimism," etc. play little role in the liberal and leftist vocabulary. The leftist is anti-individualistic, pro-collectivist. He wants society to solve everyone's needs for them, take care of them. He is not the sort of person who has an inner sense of confidence in his own ability to solve his own problems and satisfy his own needs. The leftist is antagonistic to the concept of competition because, deep inside, he feels like a loser.


Full text: http://www.panix.com/~clays/Una/

 

[GAMEFACE]

It's difficult to dispute the above, very difficult, fits perfect.

 

[stacilu]

Ego,

Liberals hated Reagan also and history will judge Reagan as one of Americas best ever.

Please tell me why he will be judged as great, I can't think
of anything great about the man.

 

[GAMEFACE]

Stacilu,

You're hopeless.

 

[stacilu]

Tell me what was great???

 

[wilheim]

Easy call

Reagan will be judged by history as a fair actor and miserable president.







wil.

 

[GAMEFACE]

Forget it, I'll save my energy for reasonable posters.

 

[stacilu]

Game


You really have no answer, do you? "Reasonable???" Why do
you guys all "chicken out" when asked to come up with some
answers? It hurts your credibillity, big time.

 

[Benassflick]

Game can't answer
why Bush is great
Why Kerry is a liar
Why Moore is full of crap.
Why all the other kids picked on him in school
Why no one wants to hang out with him
why he didn't win the debate with his powerful Kerry sucks arguement

 

[stacilu]

Game


Why don't you answer questions? Obviously you have very
strong ideas. Where do you get them? Not meaning or
wanting to sound argumentative or obnoxious but I would
like to know about your info sources. Periodicals, news shows,
documentaries, newspapers? Is there an info source
I don't know about? Inform me, I promise I will visit it and
be objective.

 

[GAMEFACE]

benass,

i never said bush is great, he's too liberal for me. i'll take bush over kerry.
kerry has flip-flopped and lied so many times, i'm surprise you'd even defend the liar. How about when kerry said he's only had one positon on the war, you have to agree that's not true. Come on, moores propaganda piece has 15+ documented lies.

benass i never ever got picked on by anyone. is that your experience in life?

when i'm correct election day it will make it that much more special to know what a terrible day that will be for you.

 

[stacilu]

benass,

i never said bush is great, he's too liberal for me. i'll take bush over kerry.
kerry has flip-flopped and lied so many times, i'm surprise you'd even defend the liar. How about when kerry said he's only had one positon on the war, you have to agree that's not true. Come on, moores propaganda piece has 15+ documented lies.

benass i never ever got picked on by anyone. is that your experience in life?

when i'm correct election day it will make it that much more special to know what a terrible day that will be for you.

Last paragraph is not very Christian of you. Will you answer
my questions?