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<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD id=tblcontent>I was sitting at lunch with a colleague a few weeks back, and he mentioned that he did not understand the general media hubbub over Michelle Obama's unpatriotic statements.
"So she said that she hadn't been proud of America in her adult life," he said. "So what?"
I answered that many Americans, rightly, were offended at the idea that a prospective First Lady of the United States was not proud of her country. "If you don't believe this is the best country on earth, don't live here," I said.
"That's 'love it or leave it,'" he answered. "I don't have to love everything about this country."
"That's right, you don't," I stated. "But if you don't believe in the essential goodness of America's founding principles -- if you don't believe that those principles constitute the greatest set of essential values ever instituted on a national scale -- then you don't belong here."
He was insulted. The typical liberal talking point states that patriotism is jingoism because America's founding principles are so much claptrap -- that modern values trump those old-fashioned ideas. But that should be an automatic disqualifier for political victory in this country. Disavowing the thoughts underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution is a tragic surrender to nihilism, a surrender to the barbarism of the French Revolution.
Liberals often ask for a definition of American values.
Let's begin with what such values are not. They are not the "evolving standards of decency" of Justice Anthony Kennedy. And they are certainly not the vague prescriptions of Barack Obama, who preaches unity but never explains precisely which Americans values are supposed to unify us.
They are the values held in common by John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. They are the values shared by James Madison, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington. Here are some of those values:
Free enterprise allows every American the opportunity to succeed. Encroachment on free enterprise by government violates the basic right to pursuit of happiness.
Freedom of political speech is a vital component for a functioning republic. Such freedom must not be disturbed by complaints about fairness or whining about the "tenor" of modern campaigning. The hurly-burly of politics allows truth to rise to the surface.
Traditional moral values must be the basis of the republic. Freedom without any societal moral compass leaves the nation adrift in a relativistic sea. The same sea that swamps traditional morality sinks the ship of state.
America must be defended and her liberties spread abroad when possible. Kowtowing to international multiculturalism promotes tyranny.
The left disagrees with these values. Free enterprise is to be opposed in order to rectify inequality. Free speech is to be contained to quash the extremism of political discourse. Traditional morality is intolerant and therefore to be jettisoned. And defending American values demonstrates bigoted ethnocentrism.
There are certain countries in which the founding philosophy is deeply flawed. America is not one of them. There are certain countries for which patriotism should be a sin. America is not one of them. American history, in all of its most glorious permutations, represents the outgrowth of our founding philosophy. Only by accepting the greatness of America's founding philosophy can we hope to ensure that freedom flourishes at home and around the globe
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i can only read the first couple of lines... how do you find time to post with all of the fox news you watch?
 

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<table><tbody><tr><td id="tblcontent">I was sitting at lunch with a colleague a few weeks back, and he mentioned that he did not understand the general media hubbub over Michelle Obama's unpatriotic statements.
"So she said that she hadn't been proud of America in her adult life," he said. "So what?"
I answered that many Americans, rightly, were offended at the idea that a prospective First Lady of the United States was not proud of her country. "If you don't believe this is the best country on earth, don't live here," I said.
"That's 'love it or leave it,'" he answered. "I don't have to love everything about this country."
"That's right, you don't," I stated. "But if you don't believe in the essential goodness of America's founding principles -- if you don't believe that those principles constitute the greatest set of essential values ever instituted on a national scale -- then you don't belong here."
He was insulted. The typical liberal talking point states that patriotism is jingoism because America's founding principles are so much claptrap -- that modern values trump those old-fashioned ideas. But that should be an automatic disqualifier for political victory in this country. Disavowing the thoughts underlying the Declaration of Independence and Constitution is a tragic surrender to nihilism, a surrender to the barbarism of the French Revolution.
Liberals often ask for a definition of American values.
Let's begin with what such values are not. They are not the "evolving standards of decency" of Justice Anthony Kennedy. And they are certainly not the vague prescriptions of Barack Obama, who preaches unity but never explains precisely which Americans values are supposed to unify us.
They are the values held in common by John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. They are the values shared by James Madison, Benjamin Franklin and George Washington. Here are some of those values:
Free enterprise allows every American the opportunity to succeed. Encroachment on free enterprise by government violates the basic right to pursuit of happiness.
Freedom of political speech is a vital component for a functioning republic. Such freedom must not be disturbed by complaints about fairness or whining about the "tenor" of modern campaigning. The hurly-burly of politics allows truth to rise to the surface.
Traditional moral values must be the basis of the republic. Freedom without any societal moral compass leaves the nation adrift in a relativistic sea. The same sea that swamps traditional morality sinks the ship of state.
America must be defended and her liberties spread abroad when possible. Kowtowing to international multiculturalism promotes tyranny.
The left disagrees with these values. Free enterprise is to be opposed in order to rectify inequality. Free speech is to be contained to quash the extremism of political discourse. Traditional morality is intolerant and therefore to be jettisoned. And defending American values demonstrates bigoted ethnocentrism.
There are certain countries in which the founding philosophy is deeply flawed. America is not one of them. There are certain countries for which patriotism should be a sin. America is not one of them. American history, in all of its most glorious permutations, represents the outgrowth of our founding philosophy. Only by accepting the greatness of America's founding philosophy can we hope to ensure that freedom flourishes at home and around the globe
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america is the greatest country and my girlfriend is adriana lima, there, now we can both have a laugh. nobody thinks america is the best anymore, because it's not. if it were i'd acknowledge it as the best. the only people who come here now are the poorest people who see the illusion that is not there of a country where they will actually be able to survive. no self respecting, aware, tolerant person is coming to this country.
 

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it probably isnt for everybody

if you expect equality of outcomes for all then its not for you

if you expect freedom to win or lose, in extremes, then it is

when you expect little from your govt, but do expect to have to work, compete for what you want then it is
 

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it probably isnt for everybody

if you expect equality of outcomes for all then its not for you

if you expect freedom to win or lose, in extremes, then it is

when you expect little from your govt, but do expect to have to work, compete for what you want then it is

thats an illusion about competing. how can you compete if some employers see you as a disadvantage because of your race or gender. the system is built for white males. look at this ad on craigslist in my area:

need guys with experience. perferbly by burnsville cause thats where we take off from. Looking for white guys ( sorry) starting pay is 10.00 cash with room for advancement. I need you to at least drive to meet us. I want you to have at least your own toolbelt. please tell me what you know and we can take it from there looking to hire at least two guys by monday

how exactly are people supposed to compete if there already behind a quarter mile for being who they are?
 

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america is the greatest country and my girlfriend is adriana lima, there, now we can both have a laugh. nobody thinks america is the best anymore, because it's not. if it were i'd acknowledge it as the best. the only people who come here now are the poorest people who see the illusion that is not there of a country where they will actually be able to survive. no self respecting, aware, tolerant person is coming to this country.
Nice to meet you nobody.

When people trying to get out of this country, outnumber the people trying to get in, then I will say that this country has problems. The last time I checked, there are no laws preventing you from leaving, if you think this country is soo bad. Feel free to get out if you would like. Nobody would miss you.
 

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lotta whining from gtc, like I said he can leave its not for him
 

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lotta whining from gtc, like I said he can leave its not for him

you still didnt answer the question. how are people supposed to compete if there behind the 8 ball already for being who they are. that employer would only accept white people. so if you're not white, you can't get the job. how exactly is that competing? if there were no affirmative action, companies would be doing this all the time because the makeup of the country is predominant white at the moment. not to mention the fact that the government has historically allowed that favoritisim.
 

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thats an illusion about competing. how can you compete if some employers see you as a disadvantage because of your race or gender. the system is built for white males. look at this ad on craigslist in my area:

need guys with experience. perferbly by burnsville cause thats where we take off from. Looking for white guys ( sorry) starting pay is 10.00 cash with room for advancement. I need you to at least drive to meet us. I want you to have at least your own toolbelt. please tell me what you know and we can take it from there looking to hire at least two guys by monday

how exactly are people supposed to compete if there already behind a quarter mile for being who they are?
The last time I checked, there is a black guy that won the democratic nomination for POTUS!! And he is the odds on favorite to win!! Oh Yeah, this country fucking sucks. It's so racist. Get a clue buddie.
 

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Nice to meet you nobody.

When people trying to get out of this country, outnumber the people trying to get in, then I will say that this country has problems. The last time I checked, there are no laws preventing you from leaving, if you think this country is soo bad. Feel free to get out if you would like. Nobody would miss you.

i am in 2 years once i finish my masters. i applied for citizenship and by then i should be able to migrate. and record number of skilled, qualified, americans are leaving america. this country only gets the trash from the rest of the world. you stay in your sinking titanic, i'll be on the lifeboat, and i won't let you in when you are flopping in the ocean trying to survive since i warned you ahead of time that the ship is going to sink.
 

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you still didnt answer the question. how are people supposed to compete if there behind the 8 ball already for being who they are. that employer would only accept white people. so if you're not white, you can't get the job. how exactly is that competing? if there were no affirmative action, companies would be doing this all the time because the makeup of the country is predominant white at the moment. not to mention the fact that the government has historically allowed that favoritisim.

Give us the link to that ad...I'd like to see it. :103631605
 

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so a rich parents dont have rights to help their kids?

You dont have a right to hire who you feel comfortable with? whether it be because of alumni, organization. church, etc?

this is typical liberal agenda.

if your parents were dummies, then yes you got a bigger hole to get out of

thsi is called life, play it

if you expect everybody on a level playing field the minute youre born then expect to give up rights to govt.

And then they, govt, arent on a level playing field either
 

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i am in 2 years once i finish my masters. i applied for citizenship and by then i should be able to migrate. and record number of skilled, qualified, americans are leaving america. this country only gets the trash from the rest of the world. you stay in your sinking titanic, i'll be on the lifeboat, and i won't let you in when you are flopping in the ocean trying to survive since i warned you ahead of time that the ship is going to sink.
Trust me, you would be the last person I asked for help.
 

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America, love it or leave it?

What happened to staying and working to make it better?
 

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you still didnt answer the question. how are people supposed to compete if there behind the 8 ball already for being who they are. that employer would only accept white people. so if you're not white, you can't get the job. how exactly is that competing? if there were no affirmative action, companies would be doing this all the time because the makeup of the country is predominant white at the moment. not to mention the fact that the government has historically allowed that favoritisim.

I realize this is a foreign concept to you, but companies are in business to BE SUCCESSFUL and MAKE MONEY. The way to do that is to HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE AVAILABLE REGARDLESS OF RACE. It is ludicrous to think that in today's competitive environment any successful company could afford to promote white slackers over minority achievers.
 

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so a rich parents dont have rights to help their kids?

You dont have a right to hire who you feel comfortable with? whether it be because of alumni, organization. church, etc?

this is typical liberal agenda.

if your parents were dummies, then yes you got a bigger hole to get out of

thsi is called life, play it

if you expect everybody on a level playing field the minute youre born then expect to give up rights to govt.

And then they, govt, arent on a level playing field either


so you're basically saying if you had a black and white candidate in front of you with equal merits, it'd be ok selecting the white guy just because you feel more comfortable around him, ie his race.

like i said, how exactly would a minority compete with that set of guidelines in play, since the predominant amount of hiring people are white?
 

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And one more thing. It seems to me that no self respecting, person who feels the way that you do about their country would bother to stay here.
 

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I realize this is a foreign concept to you, but companies are in business to BE SUCCESSFUL and MAKE MONEY. The way to do that is to HIRE THE BEST PEOPLE AVAILABLE REGARDLESS OF RACE.

Yes but you ought to atleast give all races a chance to apply ffs! I don't agree with affirmative action or special advantages though.
 

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