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I see Fournette is about -300 right now. Looks good.

Say he goes out and gets held to 50 in Bama. Not so good.

McCaffrey at +2500?
 

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I see Fournette is about -300 right now. Looks good.

Say he goes out and gets held to 50 in Bama. Not so good.

McCaffrey at +2500?
I'm biased because I have a shit ton on Fournette. But he is so far ahead of everyone else, in terms of being the best player. Can McCaffrey hold his jock? No. Does Boykin deserve it? No.

But the voting is biased and they will get some votes, so who knows.
 

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I'm biased because I have a shit ton on Fournette. But he is so far ahead of everyone else, in terms of being the best player. Can McCaffrey hold his jock? No. Does Boykin deserve it? No.

But the voting is biased and they will get some votes, so who knows.

Have you seen McCaffrey play? He's damn good man.
 

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You should be safe w fournette.

Boykin is the only real challenge and I think his receiver is a better player anyway!!!
 

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Fournette can't lose it this week but he can win it
 

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Anyone who thinks Boykin is a better player then Fournette simply does not know football
 

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Anyone who thinks Boykin is a better player then Fournette simply does not know football
Fournette is partially a product of his team and his surrounding cast opening holes for him. TCU is a product of Boykin. They would be nowhere without him. Boykin deserves the Heisman based on being the most valuable player to his team the last two years. I don't think it's even close. But TCU isn't the SEC SEC SEC, and Boykin has gotten next to nothing in the way of heisman promotion either from himself or his school. Which is part of the reason why Fournette is -300.
 

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Fournette is partially a product of his team and his surrounding cast opening holes for him. TCU is a product of Boykin. They would be nowhere without him. Boykin deserves the Heisman based on being the most valuable player to his team the last two years. I don't think it's even close. But TCU isn't the SEC SEC SEC, and Boykin has gotten next to nothing in the way of heisman promotion either from himself or his school. Which is part of the reason why Fournette is -300.

No sir.
Fournette was the #1 recruit in college football regardless of position and the top running back prospect In over 30 years. Even bigger then Peterson .Fournette is not a product of no system .
He is the real deal and the best running back I've ever seen in college football.
 

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And this trophy has nothing to do with MVP.
The award goes to the best player in college football period .

If the best player in the nation playes on an 0-12 team so what .


And besides.
Even if it was an MVP award Fournette would probably win anyway because LSU would not be the #2 team in the nation without him.
 

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No sir.
Fournette was the #1 recruit in college football regardless of position and the top running back prospect In over 30 years. Even bigger then Peterson .Fournette is not a product of no system .
He is the real deal and the best running back I've ever seen in college football.
A football player shouldn't be judged by his recruiting number or how big of a prospect he is. He should be judged by how valuable he has been to his team over his career. And I think Boykin is a MUCH more valuable player to his team's success than Fournette is to LSU. But everybody is entitled to their opinion.
 

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If LSU did not have Fournette they would have lost to both Mississippi St and Florida and maybe even Western Kentucky .

So even your MVP argument does not hold up.
Fournette is at least as valuable or more valuable to LSU as Boykin is to TCU.

But once again.

This award has nothing to do with MVP.
Never had.

There have been several winners that played on teams with only 6 or 7 wins.

So stop trying to make this an MVP award because it's not.
Never has been.

The award is given to the best player in college football period.

Thats what it says on the website.
And based on past voting that's the way it's always been.


So your MVP argument is pointless and meaningless .


But like I said even if MVP was a consideration Fournette would still have the edge.

Nobody was calling LSU a serious national champion contender before the season.

He has carried this team to the #2 position in the country.
 

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A football player shouldn't be judged by his recruiting number or how big of a prospect he is. He should be judged by how valuable he has been to his team over his career. And I think Boykin is a MUCH more valuable player to his team's success than Fournette is to LSU. But everybody is entitled to their opinion.

GS.....Boykin is a product of every program in the b12 refusing to recruit and hire defensive personnel. They way that conference embraces the dismissal of playing defense as a whole is a huge negative in promoting offensive players in b12 for Heisman. They have an unfair advantage because the other guys on the list have to work for production instead of scoring every other play.
 

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And more on all this MVP talk.

I believe TCU was ranked #2 or #3 in week 1.
And LSU was ranked #11 or #12.

So TCU was more highly regarded then LSU was before the season started.

So now LSU is ranked higher then TCU so this makes the case for Fournette being a bigger MVP then Boykin even if this was an MVP award which its not.

But even if it was Fournette would still be the winner.

TCU has dropped in the rankings while LSU had come up and passed TCU.

So I don't see a single case anyone can make for Boykin no matter what metric you use.
 

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If LSU did not have Fournette they would have lost to both Mississippi St and Florida and maybe even Western Kentucky .

So even your MVP argument does not hold up.
Fournette is at least as valuable or more valuable to LSU as Boykin is to TCU.

But once again.

This award has nothing to do with MVP.
Never had.

There have been several winners that played on teams with only 6 or 7 wins.

So stop trying to make this an MVP award because it's not.
Never has been.

The award is given to the best player in college football period.

Thats what it says on the website.
And based on past voting that's the way it's always been.


So your MVP argument is pointless and meaningless .


But like I said even if MVP was a consideration Fournette would still have the edge.

Nobody was calling LSU a serious national champion contender before the season.

He has carried this team to the #2 position in the country.

Not true at all. I watched LSU play Florida and LSU didn't beat Florida because of something amazing Fournette did that another RB couldn't do. He didn't go off on Florida. The better team just won the game. They could've put #2 in and won the game as well.
 

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No sir.
Fournette was the #1 recruit in college football regardless of position and the top running back prospect In over 30 years. Even bigger then Peterson .Fournette is not a product of no system .
He is the real deal and the best running back I've ever seen in college football.

Ok Greenberg. You forget B. Jackson, Herschel Walker, A Peterson the list goes on and on. People tend to also forget what an amazing RB Reggie Bush was in college as well.
 

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Ok Greenberg. You forget B. Jackson, Herschel Walker, A Peterson the list goes on and on. People tend to also forget what an amazing RB Reggie Bush was in college as well.

Agree

Chop is going off the deep end with these predictions lately.

First Carr is better than Luck.

Now fournette is the already the best running back in the history of college football....
 

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GS.....Boykin is a product of every program in the b12 refusing to recruit and hire defensive personnel. They way that conference embraces the dismissal of playing defense as a whole is a huge negative in promoting offensive players in b12 for Heisman. They have an unfair advantage because the other guys on the list have to work for production instead of scoring every other play.
I bet Mississippi doesn't feel that way. They couldn't stop Boykin either.
 

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Shit, Ricky Williams and Ron Dayne were both very good college RB's as well.
 

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