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Who is the better No. 4: Texas A&M or Washington?

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The biggest surprise of the initial College Football Playoff rankings release on Tuesday was undoubtedly 7-1 Texas A&M ranked ahead of 8-0 Washington. The selection committee has consistently gone against poll logic in the past and has mostly been praised for its forward thinking. In this instance, should Texas A&M be ranked fourth, and what does it mean for both teams going forward?
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Texas A&M's has a superior résumé

When asked about the decision to rank the Aggies higher, CFP selection committee chair Kirby Hocutt referenced Texas A&M's strength of schedule and quality wins.

"We had a lengthy discussion on the spot," Hocutt said. "Washington is a well-balanced team and they had a good win on the road against Utah. But in the committee's mind, Texas A&M has played a stronger schedule."

There is no doubt that Texas A&M has played a harder schedule; the Aggies' schedule ranks 26th, according to FPI's SOS calculations, while Washington has played the fourth-easiest schedule of any Power 5 school.

The question remains whether it is harder to go 7-1 against Texas A&M's schedule or 8-0 against Washington's. According to ESPN's Strength of Record metric, an average Top 25 team would have a 10 percent chance of starting 7-1 against Texas A&M's schedule and a 21 percent chance of going 8-0 against Washington's.

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The key for the Aggies is their quality wins, which Hocutt referenced when discussing Texas A&M's wins versus teams with a winning record. While that is one way to measure quality wins, it has some flaw by treating 6-2 Auburn the same as a 6-2 team from a Group of 5 conference and failing to account for the difficulty of winning on the road.

Accounting for those factors and more, Texas A&M has two quality wins -- which we will define as a win in which an average Top 25 team would have less than a 66 percent chance of winning -- and Washington has one. The Aggies' 29-16 win at Auburn was actually its best win of the season so far, based on ESPN's game score metric, and their loss at Alabama is about as forgivable a loss as possible.

Therefore, if teams are ranked based on their résumés, Texas A&M certainly has a case to be ranked in the top four. Once we add in other factors, such as which teams would win if they faced off, the debate between Washington and Texas A&M is murkier.

Ultimate example of best vs. most deserving

Texas A&M's ranking ahead of Washington is the latest example of the committee siding with a team's résumé rather than its play on the field.
Washington currently ranks seventh in FPI and is expected to be about two points better than Texas A&M on a neutral field. The Huskies have the highest average win probability of any team in the country, and after adjusting for the strength of opponents faced, they rank second in game control behind only Alabama.

Both teams have the ability to win in all three phases of the game, but Washington's superior offense -- led by Jake Browning, Myles Gaskin and John Ross -- would put it over the edge in a head-to-head matchup with the Aggies.

There are clearly two camps when it comes to ranking teams -- those that favor the best teams and those that favor the most deserving ones. It looks like the most deserving team won out in this head-to-head comparison.

Of course, the initial rankings don't matter

There will be a lot of emphasis on the initial College Football Playoff rankings, but what matters most is who will be there in the end. After all, five of the eight teams in the initial rankings the past two years did not make the playoff.

According to FiveThirtyEight's College Football Playoff projections, Washington has the fourth-best chance to make the playoff (47 percent), and Texas A&M's playoff odds rank seventh (20 percent).

That's because Washington is in a far better position than Texas A&M going forward, given its chance to win its conference and add one more quality win to its résumé in a potential Pac-12 title game.
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Projected wins11.710.1
Chance to win conf53 percent2 percent
Chance to finish with < 2 losses76 percent29 percent

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According to our Football Power Index, Washington has a 53 percent chance to win the Pac-12 and a 50 percent chance to win the conference with fewer than two losses. It would take a minor miracle for the Aggies to win the SEC, and there's still a 71 percent chance they lose at least one more game with LSU and Ole Miss still on their schedule.

The real question is whether Washington's upcoming schedule is strong enough that it can afford to drop a game if it goes on to win the Pac-12 title.

The Huskies have the 14th-hardest remaining schedule in the country, and they have a chance to pick up two more quality wins versus USC next week and at Washington State in the Apple Cup on Nov. 25. By the end of the season, Washington is projected to play FPI's 55th-ranked overall strength of schedule, which certainly isn't great, but is better than 10 other Power 5 schools, including Louisville and Nebraska.

Washington and especially Texas A&M will be reliant on what happens in the other Power 5 conferences. Chances are there will be some chaos before seasons end, so both teams simply need to keep winning and the playoff landscape will sort itself out.
 

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So let me see if i'm reading this right. This chart shows Michigan with the 4th best strength of record in this group, but by the same token they have beaten 3 of the college football playoffs top 15 teams. beating #8, #12 and #15. From briefly looking it over i dont think any of the other teams have more then 1 win vs the top 15. Oh wait OSU beat wisky and oklahoma but lost to PSU. So one team has 3 wins vs the top 15 while the 3 teams above them on the chart have 1 each, so how exactly are they determining the SOS exactly?
 

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What a load of BS.

So, if the Huskies don't go undefeated, then two SEC teams will get in?

Just go to an 8 team playoff already. So sick of the east coast bias.
 

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What a load of BS.

So, if the Huskies don't go undefeated, then two SEC teams will get in?

Just go to an 8 team playoff already. So sick of the east coast bias.

You can point to Washington's cream puff non conference schedule for the position they are in, either they win out or are likely out of playoffs.
 

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Yep, having Prairie View A&M and Texas-San Antonio on the schedule really helps the Aggies.
 

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Yep, having Prairie View A&M and Texas-San Antonio on the schedule really helps the Aggies.

Rutgers, Idaho and Portland St all at home is a joke and that's hurting them right now, win out and they will be fine. The other thing hurting them is the Pac 12 being down this year, Stanford and Oregon were expected to be marquee games and neither can be considered a quality win. They better hope someone in front of them stumbles or they are likely the four seed and could play Alabama in first round.
 

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I know. I've been to many Husky games, and this is the worst non-conf. schedule I can remember. The Huskies always used to schedule at least one tough opponant. They've been down for so long, they softened up their schedule. No one thought they were going to be this good.
 
Over the years I've seen them play Ohio St., Michigan, Notre Dame, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Miami, and LSU. I've been to two Rose Bowls in my lifetime, 1992 and 2001. I'm just hoping somehow they finish 2nd or 3rd, so they go to the Fiesta Bowl. If that happens, I will have to make the roadtrip.
 

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Washington has always been a team that i enjoyed.Its to bad they are stuck in a conference that has not played defense since the 70's.From the pac-10 to the pac-12 this conference is a disgrace as far as defense is concerned.Yea its ok for people who love the scoring fests,but at some point you should want to put a defense together.I think Washington being 5th is right where they should be,but things can change with a lot of football left.


Its no secret that Texas A-M plays in the toughest conference in college football.Week in week out there is no rest playing in the SEC...Let's just take Alabama's schedule,all was built up on how USC was going to be a challenge for them with all their speed,well that turned out to be a 52-6 Alabama win,once again the pac-12 defense being exposed.After a game against a decent W.Kentucky team they played Ole Miss which was expected to be much better than they have showed and they beat them in a close game.Then after creme puff Kent st we move into October.

In October Alabama started off by playing Kentucky who is not a bad team,then they went on the road to Arkansas who was the team Alabama was to be tested by,they took care of them,then they stay on the road and travel to Tennessee who again was another team that was to maybe take Alabama down,didn't happen,then they come home to meet Texas A-M which was to be another of their stiffest tests,and they were for one half but that was it,so another win and against another good SEC team.So they finally get a bye after all that and who is next,yes LSU who also had a bye and its at LSU.So now again people are already saying that this is the game they will lose,and it just might be,but at least it would be against another conference power.

So with all that said,Texas A-M has played a little different SEC schedule but still against better teams than Washington has and A-M still has 3 SEC games left with Miss.st this week,then Missi.and Lsu down the road,so yes i believe they do belong ahead of Washington
 
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Tell Washington to schedule better opponents...

I wouldn't argue that Washington deserves to be in over A&M, but this comment makes no sense. A&M's non-conference schedule is/was also cake and at least Washington played a team from a power 5 conference.
 

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So Texas A&M loses. Now what are they going to do to keep Washington out?

Watch them put 1 loss Ohio St. and/or Louisville in front of the Huskies.
 

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So Texas A&M loses. Now what are they going to do to keep Washington out?

Watch them put 1 loss Ohio St. and/or Louisville in front of the Huskies.

If UW wins out, they will be in the final four. They control their own destiny.
 

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Do you mean teams like Prairie View A&M and Texas-San Antonio? That's who the Aggies have on their schedule.

Texas A&M opened year playing UCLA while Washington opened the season against Rutgers. Look at A&M's first seven games then Washington's first seven games, not even close when it comes to SOS, that's why A&M was ahead of them in the first poll.
 

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rutgers, idaho and portland st all at home is a joke and that's hurting them right now, win out and they will be fine. The other thing hurting them is the pac 12 being down this year, stanford and oregon were expected to be marquee games and neither can be considered a quality win. They better hope someone in front of them stumbles or they are likely the four seed and could play alabama in first round.

they could beat alabama right now!
 

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Well after yesterdays action i now would definately choose Washington over TEXAS A-M in the 4th position.Texas a-m played like dog shit and WASHINGTON rolled it up again,so what i thought in my post above just didn't live up to the conversation,....Texas A-M should drop way out of the top 10 this week
 

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Washington should be rated higher but after watching the last few weeks of Washington, I doubt they are actually better than TAMU. They looked awful against California and Utah.
 

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Washington should be rated higher but after watching the last few weeks of Washington, I doubt they are actually better than TAMU. They looked awful against California and Utah.
Awful against Cal
they named their score.. could have put up 85 pts
 

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