Who is betting Colarado and why?

[Whisperz]

I just don't see how this line makes any sense. Colorado had to squeeze out a win vs Eastern Wash. WVU on the other hand played a very tough matchup in ECU who has great team speed on defense.

I just don't see Colorado having the defensive speed to containe White and Devine.

Looks to good to be true interested to hear some Colorado arguments.

 

[OTK]

I am and because CU is a better team at home. ECU isn't that good, they just played two overrated teams to start the year. Neither VT or WVU are top 25 teams imo. ECU did great to beat them both and deserves to be ranked right now, but they won't be by the end of the year. Colorado has a better team than ECU and should show it tomorrow night.

 

[Whisperz]

I am and because CU is a better team at home. ECU isn't that good, they just played two overrated teams to start the year. Neither VT or WVU are top 25 teams imo. ECU did great to beat them both and deserves to be ranked right now, but they won't be by the end of the year. Colorado has a better team than ECU and should show it tomorrow night.

Ok, so Colorado is better then ECU so how is Colorado better then WVU? How are they going to stop the speed of this offense. ECU has defensive speed Colorado does not.

Colorado stumbled through the Col. St game and if they hadn't returned that kick who knows what happens cause they looked like shit. Then they have to score 17 in the 4th quarter to beat Eastern Wash??????

ECU is a good defensive club and although there probably not going to be ranked by the end of the year neither is Colorado.

 

[alwayslosing]

I am and because CU is a better team at home. ECU isn't that good, they just played two overrated teams to start the year. Neither VT or WVU are top 25 teams imo. ECU did great to beat them both and deserves to be ranked right now, but they won't be by the end of the year. Colorado has a better team than ECU and should show it tomorrow night.

This is a joke right??? Colorado has done nothing this year and has done nothing in many years. They will not contain UWV.. Colorado is not better than ECU either. They would get killed by them. W. Viriginia wins this game by at least 10...

 

[sendacash]

Home dog on national TV, probably a coaching advantadge might be enough for me if I can get 3.5. WVU seems w/o WR threat?

 

[jayrocker26]

Whisperz I'm with you on this one buddy. I am just waiting to get it at -2 (-110) if possible.

 

[Jetplane]

CU undervalued by public... but I'm really not sure. I lean CU anyway.

 

[ToothedTeddy]

Buffs will play up/down to their competition thus a good team to back as dogs and fade when favored, imo. hasn't been a Thurs night game in Boulder in years, home field advantage worth 6 pts.

and didn't WV lose 8 starters from their D last year? neither D is that great, expect a shootout for sure.

check out CU's home games last yr. this is the same team with more experience. Perception of WV based solely on last few yrs. but different coach and different defense nobody really knows how good they are yet. outside of conference i think they're marginal at best.

i'll fade the public and take my chances with the better coached home team.

 

[Whisperz]

Buffs will play up/down to their competition thus a good team to back as dogs and fade when favored, imo. hasn't been a Thurs night game in Boulder in years, home field advantage worth 6 pts.

and didn't WV lose 8 starters from their D last year? neither D is that great, expect a shootout for sure.

check out CU's home games last yr. this is the same team with more experience. Perception of WV based solely on last few yrs. but different coach and different defense nobody really knows how good they are yet. outside of conference i think they're marginal at best.

i'll fade the public and take my chances with the better coached home team.

From what I've seen everyone is on Colorado. Thats according to BB and the poll around here. I mean, this is just ridiculous. You say WVU is going based on rep but is anyone actually looking at this match-up? Colorado has very little team speed on defense and Pat White and Noel Devine should have a field day especially if they get in space. Yes, home dogs are fun but WVU is completley outclassing them. People are overreacting to a loss vs ECU but I mean are you kidding. This will not be a shootout. WVU has the athletes on defense to keep up with Colorado.

Eastern Wash was leading this Colorado team 21-7. This Colorado team has no running game. WVU lost some costly fumbles vs ECU won't happen this week.

IMO only basis for playing Colorado is....

-Home dog
-Fading public

There is nothing that points to CU winning this one. This line baffles me. Should be WVU -9 atleast. I can simply not believe that people are betting Colorado.

Big shocker your from Colorado.

 

[billbeater]

BB will need WV before its said and done.
You are very animate about this play, and i will go with you on it :aktion033
People seen the home dog win tonight and got a tent pitched in their shorts....

 

[sendacash]

Any concern by WVU about being outgained by Villanova by 50 yds and out TOP by 15 minutes? Allowing Villanova 8-14 on 3rd down not so great either.

 

[Whisperz]

Any concern by WVU about being outgained by Villanova by 50 yds and out TOP by 15 minutes? Allowing Villanova 8-14 on 3rd down not so great either.

Concerned about being outgained by 50 yards?: No because Villanova ran 87 plays for an average of 4.5 yards per play. West Virginia ran 56 plays for an average of 6.4 yards per play. When you run 31 more plays then the other team your supposed to outgain them. It's not to good that they only outgained them by 50.

Concerned about TOP by 15 minutes?: Why would TOP concern me if the final was 48-21? If they had not won by 27 yes, I may be concerned.

Villanova on 3rd: Ehh...8-14. Kind of concerns me but on the flip side....

Are you concerned Eastern Wash went 11 for 19 on 3rd down vs CU, or that CU gained 2.7 yards per carry on 33 carries, or that they had 10 penalties, or that they fumbled 4 times, or that they had to score 17 points in to 4th just to slide by Eastern Wash?

Again not surprised your from Denver.

 

[echamp76]

I already have Colorado ML, I think WVU is a smoke and mirror show, well mounties, welcome to 5280 feet, lets see how you are playing in the 4th quarter. The rule of thumb for the Thrusday night ESPN game is play the home team or don't play the game at all. Home dogs on the ML are a license to print money, here is the last 3 years of the ESPN Thursday nighter.

2005

Oregon 38 Houston 24 L
OK St. 23 FAU 3 W I don't remember the spread exactly but I think it was -27 so FAU did cover
Utah 20 TCU 23 W If I am not mistaken Utah was -4, I know they were a fav in this game
Bowling Green 20 Bosie St. 48 W yeah the Broncos covered
Air Force 23 Colorado St. 41 W the Rams covered in this one
NCST 17 GT 14 L Tech was ranked in this one and lost SU
Clemson 31 NCST 10 L road team covered
VT 28 MD 9 L The spread was 17-18 in this one, WVU got a front door cover on this one
BC 10 VT 30 W Home team covers again
Pitt 20 Louisville 42 W the Cards coverd 21 in this one, I know because I bet UL for the 1st half and lost but they covered the game
Bosie St. 7 Fresno St 27 W I think the line was 7 in this one Fresno covered easily
Pitt 12 WVU 45 W the mounties covered this one with ease

Home team 8-4 ATS with one dog winning outright TCU

2006
BC 31 Central Michigan 24 W CMU was getting 11 pts
Oregon St 14 Bosie St. 42 W Bosie was laying 7.5
MD 24 WVU 45 W WVU was laying 16.5
Viginia 7 Gerogia Tech 24 W Tech was laying 16.5 covered by half a point
Auburn 24 South Carolina 17 W The Tigers were laying 13 pts, I was in Mexico getting drunk watching this game with the vatos!
Florida St. 20 NCST 24 W FSU was laying 9.5 and the wolfpack won outright!
Va Tech 3 Boston College 22 W Tech was laying 1.5 and BC won SU
UNC 0 Virginia 23 W UVA was laying 6 pts
Clemson 7 Va Tech 24 W Clemson was laying 3.5 and Tech won SU
WVU 34 Louisville 44 W UL covered -2
Louisville 25 Rutgers 28 W RU won SU as a 5.5 pt dog
WVU 45 Pitt 27 L WVU covered 9.5 finally a road team covered
BC 14 Miami 17 W the Canes were a 3 pt dog and won SU
Ohio 10 Central Michigan 31 W the chips covered the 3.5 with ease I do think this was the MAC championship at Ford Field

13-1 with 5 dogs winning SU

2007

LSU 45 Miss. St. 0 L the bulldog suck too bad to keep the trend going
Oregon St. 3 Cincy 34 W Cincy won SU as a 3 pt dog
WVU 31 MD 14 L/P line opened at 17 and moved down to 15.5 loss/push
A&M 17 Miami 34 W the Canes covered 2 pts.
S. Miss 16 Bosie St. 38 W the Broncos covered 11 with ease
Kentucky 23 South Carolina 38 W the Cocks covered 4.5 no problemo
FSU 21 Wake 24 W Wake won SU as a 4.5 dog
S. Florida 27 Rutgers 30 W RU won SU as a 1.5 pt dog
BC 14 VT 10 L BC was a 3 pt dog, thanks to a huge comeback with 2 TDs in the last 5 minutes from Ryan BC bucked the trend
Va Tech 27 Gerogia Tech 3 L VT won as a dog on the road in this one
Louisville 31 WVU 38 L WVU couldn't cover 16.5
Oregon 24 Arizona 34 W Dixon getting hurt in this game had a lot to do with the score, AZ won SU as a 10.5 dog, I had AZ on the ML because of this trend
USC 44 AZ St. 24 L The Trojans crushed the devils and covered the 3.5 in this one
Rutgers 38 Louisville 41 W the Cards covered 2.5 in this one

home team 8-6 with 4 dogs winning outright

2008

NCST 0 S. Carolina 34 W USC covered 14 with ease
S. Carolina 17 Vandy 24 W Vandy won SU as a 9.5 pt dog
UNC 44 Rutgers 12 L RU is going to stink this year

2008 2-1 with one big dog winning Su


So lets add that up the home team on the Thursday night ESPN game is 31-12 with 11 home dogs winning straight up.
That's 72% of the time the home team covers in this game. I am not a huge trend player but I can't ignore this trend. I am rolling with the Buffs on Thursday night!

 

[ToothedTeddy]

dude take it easy no need to get your panties in a bunch. i am NOT from colorado. just moved here. i do not like the Buffs nor do i like the big 12.

neither team has impressed this yr. so i think comparing their previous two games is a moot point. and i'm not big on either side, you just asked for opinions. i actually like the over more than anything.

we all know how good WV was last yr. Colorado was young and avg in a decent conference. i think it's safe to say that WV will not be as good as last yr. and i'm banking on Colorado improving (Hawkins in his 3rd yr as coach). let's look at their home games from 2007:

Fla St 6-16
Miami OH 41-0
Oklahoma 27-24
Kansas 14-19
Mizzou 10-55
Nebraska 65-51

specifically look at WV and yes, their team speed is an obvious strength. and you could make an argument that the fastest team CO played last yr, Mizzou, thumped them pretty good. aside from that game, they either won outright or closely lost. so my main reasoning for like them Thurs night is that they will be improved, and WV is weaker. just how far that gap has been closed... well, we shall find out soon.

best of luck all season

 

[jayrocker26]

Just to back up my buddy Whisperz regarding WVU getting outgained:

North Carolina 44 - Rutgers 12

Rutgers Total Yards: 383
North Carolina Total Yards: 378

Rutgers First Downs: 23
North Carolina First Downs: 18

I'm on WVU here, if I am wrong, well maybe I'll buy back my Rutgers bet against Navy because I am obviously losing my touch, but in my opinion WVU is another no brainer play for me here.

 

[Whisperz]

72% of the time home teams covered? Really??? Guess this falls into that 28%.

WVU is 5-1 SU on Thursdays 3 of those on the road.

 

[jayrocker26]

Just my opinion and we are all entitled to our opinions...

I don't like trends. I especially do not like this one. By this Thursday night trend you seem to be insinuating that the lines-makers purposely want people to bet a road favorite? I always seemed to think that lines-makers just want to make a line so they can get 50% on one side, 50% on the other, and collect the $0.10 juice. I don't know.

The only "trends" I like to follow, is actual recent history between teams or recent common opponents, etc. What does what Oklahoma State and Florida Atlantic did against each other over 2 years ago mean for West Virginia and Colorado this Thursday? I don't know. Thats just me. I'll probably be dead wrong on my West Virginia play, who knows.

 

[echamp76]

I just don't see how this line makes any sense. Colorado had to squeeze out a win vs Eastern Wash. WVU on the other hand played a very tough matchup in ECU who has great team speed on defense.

I just don't see Colorado having the defensive speed to containe White and Devine.

Looks to good to be true interested to hear some Colorado arguments.

Maryland got hammered by MTSU and came back and broke their foot off in Cal's ass, I think it is all about motivation. WVU's coach makes me wonder and WVU really misses Reynaud IMHO, plus you just can't replace a lead blocker in Schmitt that easily. WVU is fairly one dimensional in my mind. Anyone remember last year when a solid Virginia team went to Laramie early in the season last year and got their doors blown off by a half ass Wyoming team? I really think the thin air gets to teams that aren't used to playing there once a year.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Whisperz]

Just my opinion and we are all entitled to our opinions...

I don't like trends. I especially do not like this one. By this Thursday night trend you seem to be insinuating that the lines-makers purposely want people to bet a road favorite? I always seemed to think that lines-makers just want to make a line so they can get 50% on one side, 50% on the other, and collect the $0.10 juice. I don't know.

The only "trends" I like to follow, is actual recent history between teams or recent common opponents, etc. What does what Oklahoma State and Florida Atlantic did against each other over 2 years ago mean for West Virginia and Colorado this Thursday? I don't know. Thats just me. I'll probably be dead wrong on my West Virginia play, who knows.

Exactly. WVU was a top 10 team and 1 loss later in a hostile road team that matched up well with them they are dropping to the likes of Colorado???? I just dont fucking get it! I'm going to put my life on WVU if someone can't come up with some reasonable info to bet CU.

Jayrocker...gl on this with me.

 

[Whisperz]

Maryland got hammered by MTSU and came back and broke their foot off in Cal's ass, I think it is all about motivation. WVU's coach makes me wonder and WVU really misses Reynaud IMHO, plus you just can't replace a lead blocker in Schmitt that easily. WVU is fairly one dimensional in my mind. Anyone remember last year when a solid Virginia team went to Laramie early in the season last year and got their doors blown off by a half ass Wyoming team? I really think the thin air gets to teams that aren't used to playing there once a year.

Just my 2 cents.

Maryland got to play Cal. A normal football team. Good offense, solid defense. Pretty standard.

CU has to play the fastest team in the nation. Yes, WVU is one dimensional, but they have been for years. They are going to line up in the gun and get it to Devine or White in space. This is not your standard football team.

Maryland/Cal, Virginia/Wyoming has no relevance to WVU/CU ESPECIALLY because WVU lost last week and can't afford to be 1-2.