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party to become a national party again? They are simply not prepared to scrap the far left liberal ideas that have made them a 50 county party in the United States. The left wing media is basically useless and is little help with the liberal ramblings of the day. First they must face that America is not a liberal country. America is a faith based country and liberlism is at complete odds with faith. I'm not sure another 5 seats lost in the Senate will force the democrats to abandoned the ideas that have lost election after election lately.

It's clear the only plan now is to attack President Bush night and day until the next Presidential election. It doesn't matter a bit, it won't get them a single extra vote. They are sure slow learners, the loss of a few more senators and house reps may finally send the message.

Looking back Al Gorelion inventing the internet killed the democratic party if any one thing did. The lies the liberal media puts out can be bebunked in hours now.
 

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The Liberals can't help it Game.

Its a deep seated human desire to hold back extremism in all its forms and guises.

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Gameface: Gore never claimed that ...

Gore never claimed that he "invented" the Internet, which implies that he engineered the technology. The invention occurred in the seventies and allowed scientists in the Defense Department to communicate with each other. In a March 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer, Gore said, "During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet."


Taken in context, the sentence, despite some initial ambiguity, means that as a congressman Gore promoted the system we enjoy today, not that he could patent the science, though that's how the quotation has been manipulated. Hence the disingenuous substitution of "inventing" for the actual language.

But the real question is what, if anything, did Gore actually do to create the modern Internet? According to Vincent Cerf, a senior vice president with MCI Worldcom who's been called the Father of the Internet, "The Internet would not be where it is in the United States without the strong support given to it and related research areas by the Vice President in his current role and in his earlier role as Senator."

The inventor of the Mosaic Browser, Marc Andreesen, credits Gore with making his work possible. He received a federal grant through Gore's High Performance Computing Act. The University of Pennsylvania's Dave Ferber says that without Gore the Internet "would not be where it is today." Joseph E. Traub, a computer science professor at Columbia University, claims that Gore "was perhaps the first political leader to grasp the importance of networking the country. Could we perhaps see an end to cheap shots from politicians and pundits about inventing the Internet?"
 

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eekster,

The GOP will have a supermajority if this continues. That cannot be good for the country.
 

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Doc,

Point taken, I'm sure Al Gorelion said more. Any thoughts on the state of the democratic party.
 

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The demis will NEVER give up that creamy strawberry tasting nipple the regular folks call a 'get off you tush and work for a paycheck for once, will ya?'. Would expect out of wedlock births to rise in the next couple years as Jess Jackson has put out the notice that the base needs greater plenishment. Bruce Springsteen did all he could in his political church setting this past election to unite the demis, to get together and join seeds.

The demis have been overtaken by Gays, Feminists ( both men and women feminists now ), anti- gun, anti business, abortionalist, enviromental wackos. Hugh Hefner may have voted republican seeing how the liberal party has lost all crediblity. Took fifty years, but the demi's crediblity is shot! I can't think of one demi off the top of my head other than Zel Miller who'll talk straight!

Republican party needs to severe ties completely with the demi's and this will force a daddy's republican vs. a neocon republican party. Remember Ronald Reagan was a neocon! He's the man we need again.

67 seats in the senate by the republicans will get the demi's attention. Then who knows what the heck will happen...Get that crystal ball out of the basement.
 

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I would love another Reagan, we'd have 8 years of peace that's for sure.
 

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Over 2/3rds of the Democrats 40 seats in the Senate are up for election in 2 years.

The Dems have likely already thrown away a Senate seat in Washington State with their recent election recounting.

The five seats the Reps need for a super-majority are within easy reach.

But as I posted before, I don't think that will matter after the Reps duplicate Byrd's tatics and do away with the filibuster.
 

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doc mercer said:
The Dems remind me of the Miami Dolphins right now ...
What do you mean they rather smoke dope and lay in the rack than produce?
 

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Over 2/3rds of the Democrats 40 seats in the Senate are up for election in 2 years.

The Dems have likely already thrown away a Senate seat in Washington State with their recent election recounting.

The five seats the Reps need for a super-majority are within easy reach.

But as I posted before, I don't think that will matter after the Reps duplicate Byrd's tatics and do away with the filibuster.
40 demi seats are up in 2 years?? I didn't realize they had that many up for grabs, they are in huge trouble.
 
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doc mercer said:
The Dems remind me of the Miami Dolphins right now ...
they'd never hire a guy like Saban. They'd beg Wannstedt to stay.
 

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"America is a faith based country and liberlism is at complete odds with faith."

I'm just glad the founding fathers had enough wisdom to install measures to create the separation of church and state....if it was up to the conservatives there would be some form of Jesus on every streetcorner and a religious monarchy in place.

I can be thankful there are some liberals left who appreciate individual human rights and fight against causes that threaten to limit ones own personal freedoms and choices.....

I could care less about what the gays or lesbians do with thier lives, it's thier own lives, and has no effect on how I live my own heterosexual lifestyle.

The key is that I realize, as a number of people do not, that whatever laws or constraints placed on thier lifestyle are only a step and a series of votes away from intruding on my lifestyle and eliminating the freedoms I possess......something people don't appreciate fully, that protecting individual lifestyles, regardless how different they are from ones own, insures that erosion doesn't take place and eventually threaten ones own freedoms.

Most people could care less about some strangers rights, its only when THIER rights are on the chopping block that they shout back and take a stand.
 

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While you are at it Game, why don't you ask when will the GOP become the party many of us used to admire. When will they return to the party of small government, fiscal sanity, and less government interference. Everything they talk about sounds like government programs and regulation to me. They want you to believe cutting your taxes is cutting down big government, but all it seems to do is make for bigger government bills in the future. When you answer that maybe you will be onto something valuable. As for the Dems, it doesn't matter. Most major switches in political climate don't come from changes in a party, but just outright voter disgust at the party in charge to the point they get voted out.
 
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Wildbill:

Yep .... "just outright voter disgust at the party in charge to the point they get voted out" ...

That would up the feelings of many folks here who voted for Kerry ... many more a vote against Bush and his Soprano form of govt

I have voted both Republican and Democratic ... I would have voted for anyone the Dems threw up as Bush totally disgusts me and half of the country with his flip/flopping and totally disregard for the safety of our kids serving this country
 

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GAMEFACE said:
40 demi seats are up in 2 years?? I didn't realize they had that many up for grabs, they are in huge trouble.

17 Dem seats are up in 2006 (18 if you count Jumping Jeffords)...GOP has 15. Michigan, Nebraska, Washington and Minnesota are states that the GOP can win (Hillary should win unless Rudy jumps in). Only Pennsylvania is a possible pickup for the Democrats...possible retirements also favor the republicans if Byrd, Nelson, or Akaka decide to give it up.

Not looking good for the Democrats.
 

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Shotgun said:
17 Dem seats are up in 2006 (18 if you count Jumping Jeffords)...GOP has 15. Michigan, Nebraska, Washington and Minnesota are states that the GOP can win (Hillary should win unless Rudy jumps in). Only Pennsylvania is a possible pickup for the Democrats...possible retirements also favor the republicans if Byrd, Nelson, or Akaka decide to give it up.

Not looking good for the Democrats.

In 1992 we heard this. Clinton had won and Congress was firmly in the Democrats hands. Just two short years later it started to turn around and just 12 years later it is a complete 180. These things won't stay this way forever though. I think it is a huge asset to be on the sidelines for a little bit. The way things work these days it takes a whole lot of spin to claim much progress when you are running the show. With no one to blame but themselves if things don't go well or get done, the GOP is going to face a tough task holding the status quo.
 

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In 1992 we heard this. Clinton had won and Congress was firmly in the Democrats hands. Just two short years later it started to turn around and just 12 years later it is a complete 180. These things won't stay this way forever though. I think it is a huge asset to be on the sidelines for a little bit. The way things work these days it takes a whole lot of spin to claim much progress when you are running the show. With no one to blame but themselves if things don't go well or get done, the GOP is going to face a tough task holding the status quo.

Yep, the potential for the republicans to screw up is certainly there. But the Democrats are no alternative at the pace they are going. They need to be pushing back to the center; instead their base is moving left as fast as possible and telling the rest of America to shove it.

After Clinton took over Gingrich was able to put for a vision for what the GOP wanted to do (Contract with America). When Gingrich got away from that agenda and the GOP became a 'Get Clinton' party, they lost. The Dems are simply a 'Get Bush' party now, without any ideas that would sway the middle to their way of thinking.

There is some ground they can grab. Go hard on the deficit, go after illegal aliens, attack the UN: Hillary has done a decent job on some of these issues. Too bad she doesn't mean it.
 

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Dems needed an anti-war candidate. Kerry offered a different version of the same war-why bother. Let Bush handle his muslim war. Kerry would have his version torpedoed by everyone.

The muslim war will go on forever. If the "us" had an occupation army training say "new yorkers" to police and control the country. Ask yourself if you would be insurgeant.
 

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GAMEFACE said:
eekster,
The GOP will have a supermajority if this continues. That cannot be good for the country.
Thats life Game.
Eventually Republicans will get so corrupt and blatantly greedy that no-one will support them anymore and then the pendulum swings back to the left.

Thatchers conservative gangsters alienated an entire generation, and the conservatives are still paying for it years later.

Enjoy it while it lasts Game, 'cos it won't last, it never does.

At the moment, it looks like huge job losses lie ahead (to me).
The Repubs can blame it on Clinton.
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