What is the correct play here?

[shdw01]

PokerStars Game #22309958107: Tournament #120442915, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/11/23 21:04:34 ET
Table '120442915 60' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: aconsuma (12835 in chips)
Seat 2: Patonius2000 (15785 in chips)
Seat 3: -IriSh-cH0p- (9604 in chips)
Seat 4: BlackFourz (15387 in chips)
Seat 5: shdw01 (5790 in chips)
Seat 6: remen (14496 in chips)
Seat 7: ze_caiçara (13175 in chips)
Seat 8: swd805 (16603 in chips)
Seat 9: PlzBelieveMe (7316 in chips)
aconsuma: posts the ante 50
Patonius2000: posts the ante 50
-IriSh-cH0p-: posts the ante 50
BlackFourz: posts the ante 50
shdw01: posts the ante 50
remen: posts the ante 50
ze_caiçara: posts the ante 50
swd805: posts the ante 50
PlzBelieveMe: posts the ante 50
remen: posts small blind 300
ze_caiçara: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [4c 4s]
swd805: folds
PlzBelieveMe: folds
aconsuma: folds
Patonius2000: folds
-IriSh-cH0p-: folds
BlackFourz: raises 900 to 1500
shdw01: ?????


153 paid, still 300 left....no way I make money unless I chip up....but this is a pretty iffy spot....

thoughts?

 

[shdw01]

PokerStars Game #22310010330: Tournament #120442915, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (300/600) - 2008/11/23 21:06:42 ET
Table '120442915 60' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 2: Patonius2000 (15635 in chips)
Seat 3: -IriSh-cH0p- (9454 in chips)
Seat 4: BlackFourz (16587 in chips)
Seat 5: shdw01 (12980 in chips)
Seat 6: remen (14046 in chips)
Seat 7: ze_caiçara (6735 in chips)
Seat 8: swd805 (29588 in chips)
Seat 9: PlzBelieveMe (5966 in chips)
Patonius2000: posts the ante 50
-IriSh-cH0p-: posts the ante 50
BlackFourz: posts the ante 50
shdw01: posts the ante 50
remen: posts the ante 50
ze_caiçara: posts the ante 50
swd805: posts the ante 50
PlzBelieveMe: posts the ante 50
PlzBelieveMe: posts small blind 300
Patonius2000: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [Kh Ah]
-IriSh-cH0p-: folds
BlackFourz: folds
shdw01: calls 600
remen: folds
ze_caiçara: folds
swd805: folds
PlzBelieveMe: calls 300
Patonius2000: checks
*** FLOP *** [9c 8s 3h]
PlzBelieveMe: checks
Patonius2000: checks
shdw01: checks
*** TURN *** [9c 8s 3h] [Jh]
PlzBelieveMe: checks
Patonius2000: bets 1200
shdw01: ?????


I know i fucked this up preflop.....provided I already fucked up the hand....post flop play very vaginal as well.

my real question is do you fold, call or raise this turn bet?

 

[PO69]

You have to fold the second hand

 

[shdw01]

PokerStars Game #22310469694: Tournament #120442915, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2008/11/23 21:25:18 ET
Table '120442915 60' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: lemmervinn (6398 in chips)
Seat 2: dpeters17 (12601 in chips)
Seat 3: -IriSh-cH0p- (4654 in chips)
Seat 4: BlackFourz (27625 in chips)
Seat 5: shdw01 (15055 in chips)
Seat 6: remen (12871 in chips)
Seat 7: ze_caiçara (5171 in chips)
Seat 8: swd805 (18456 in chips)
Seat 9: PlzBelieveMe (33950 in chips)
lemmervinn: posts the ante 75
dpeters17: posts the ante 75
-IriSh-cH0p-: posts the ante 75
BlackFourz: posts the ante 75
shdw01: posts the ante 75
remen: posts the ante 75
ze_caiçara: posts the ante 75
swd805: posts the ante 75
PlzBelieveMe: posts the ante 75
remen: posts small blind 400
ze_caiçara: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [5s 5h]
swd805: folds
PlzBelieveMe: folds
lemmervinn: folds
dpeters17: folds
-IriSh-cH0p-: raises 3779 to 4579 and is all-in
BlackFourz: folds
shdw01: ??????

 

[shdw01]

the guy here is pretty short on chips....but 55 feels like i'm dominating or flipping....not my gamble of choice

 

[theDude24]

1st one is iffy - i probably fold and wait for a better shoving spot.

AK is up to you, you could feel one off with overs and flush draw - wouldnt shove though bc donks call there with any J

the 55 i fold esp. bc people behind you, what if they reshove, then your fucked

good luck

 

[shdw01]

I folded AK and 55.....the 55 was folded back to the shortstack.....just makes me feel like a waste with pockets

 

[theDude24]

well out of boredom i am now watching you in the 2nd chance so feel free to post any fun hands

 

[shdw01]

lol

i just had KQ suited UTG.....folded

getting bubblicious

 

[shdw01]

you are gonna love (hate) this one

 

[theDude24]

ya - only 2 more, no reason to go crazy with something

 

[shdw01]

PokerStars Game #22310867458: Tournament #120442915, $200+$15 Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2008/11/23 21:41:50 ET
Table '120442915 74' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: LoneHixx (31918 in chips)
Seat 2: All In Cdn (20961 in chips)
Seat 3: adwdude (6752 in chips)
Seat 4: bobbybagpipe (32026 in chips)
Seat 5: ryanstu (42826 in chips)
Seat 6: chipreese93 (15982 in chips)
Seat 7: dw2006 (16222 in chips)
Seat 8: Singis (15979 in chips)
Seat 9: shdw01 (11080 in chips)
LoneHixx: posts the ante 100
All In Cdn: posts the ante 100
adwdude: posts the ante 100
bobbybagpipe: posts the ante 100
ryanstu: posts the ante 100
chipreese93: posts the ante 100
dw2006: posts the ante 100
Singis: posts the ante 100
shdw01: posts the ante 100
Singis: posts small blind 500
shdw01: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to shdw01 [Kc Ac]
LoneHixx: folds
All In Cdn: folds
adwdude: folds
bobbybagpipe: folds
ryanstu: folds
chipreese93: folds
dw2006: raises 1444 to 2444
Singis: raises 1556 to 4000
shdw01: folds
dw2006: calls 1556
*** FLOP *** [Qh 4s Jc]
Singis: bets 3500
dw2006: folds
Uncalled bet (3500) returned to Singis
Singis collected 9900 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9900 | Rake 0
Board [Qh 4s Jc]
Seat 1: LoneHixx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: All In Cdn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: adwdude folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: bobbybagpipe folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: ryanstu folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: chipreese93 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: dw2006 (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: Singis (small blind) collected (9900)
Seat 9: shdw01 (big blind) folded before Flop

 

[theDude24]

love/hate what? what you folded in the BB?

AQ?
10-10?

 

[shdw01]

seriously....would you guys call or push here? we are 2 from the money....

 

[theDude24]

i don't mind it....... vs a raise and a reraise, no reason to just shove AK

you can find better spots... i like shoving any two on the bottom/in the cutoff than calling raise and reraise with AK

 

[theDude24]

i only dont mind it b/c you are guaranteed getting called - so you are praying he has what? AQ? or your racing vs like a JJ or something....

 

[theDude24]

one guy has 700 and is 1 away from the BB, might as well wait for him and guarantee a profit

 

[shdw01]

i hear you....but because it was button and SB, if the bubble had popped, I think I'm shoving

 

[shdw01]

yeah, after chipping up to about 16k, i have seriously folded half my stack waiting for the bubble to pop....

.....probably worst MTT strategy out there....lol

 

[shdw01]

crap, i have 1/3 the "average stack"