West coast week 9

[Conan]

Another MWC game popped out at me as soon as I saw the line.l
It makes no sense to me so I'll just hit it.

SDSU -6½/Utah St.

Pumphrey deserves strong consideration for the Heisman. He leads
the FBS in rushing yards. SDSU's offense is among the best in CFB
and Utah St. can't seem to get itself unhinged thus far in the season.
They might not even make a bowl game this year. My how they've
fallen.

Also liking UDub, maybe even ASU !!

 

[WinOne]

Another MWC game popped out at me as soon as I saw the line.l
It makes no sense to me so I'll just hit it.

SDSU -6½/Utah St.

Pumphrey deserves strong consideration for the Heisman. He leads
the FBS in rushing yards. SDSU's offense is among the best in CFB
and Utah St. can't seem to get itself unhinged thus far in the season.
They might not even make a bowl game this year. My how they've
fallen.

Also liking UDub, maybe even ASU !!

Conan, I would tread lightly on this one. USU playing with revenge, and they are typically pretty tough at home. On top of that, their run defense is pretty salty. They only give up about 150 yards a game on the ground.

 

[Conan]

Conan, I would tread lightly on this one. USU playing with revenge, and they are typically pretty tough at home. On top of that, their run defense is pretty salty. They only give up about 150 yards a game on the ground.

I did think about the revenge factor WinOne, but they really put the wood bigtime to them last year, but even more than that I think Utah St. has bigger worries than taking revenge on anyone at this point. They have plenty of issues they need to address. As long as I don't have to lay more than a TD I'm fine with it.

 

[ca$hmoney]

How can a Ducks team with 5 straight loses be favored by more than a TD? Is Vegas asking for ASU money?

 

[ShortBusDriver7]

the gambling gods are destined to punish ASU for that shady FG at the end vs Wash St

 

[crazykind]

the gambling gods are destined to punish ASU for that shady FG at the end vs Wash St

ASU kicked a FG to pull within 5 with 4:36 left - WSU then had to get three first downs to clinch the win...what was shady about it???

 

[ProphetablePicks]

ASU kicked a FG to pull within 5 with 4:36 left - WSU then had to get three first downs to clinch the win...what was shady about it???

Why would you kick a FG to go down 5 when you are down one score (8) at the 20 yard line and can tie the game!! Going down 5 is still a gone score game. That is what he is talking about. There is no reason what so ever to kick a FG at that point in the game with the score what it was.

 

[DesertDevil]

How can a Ducks team with 5 straight loses be favored by more than a TD? Is Vegas asking for ASU money?

Have you seen Arizona State play the past 2 games?

Do you know the Sun Devils are down to their 4th string QB?

 

[DesertDevil]

Why would you kick a FG to go down 5 when you are down one score (8) at the 20 yard line and can tie the game!! Going down 5 is still a gone score game. That is what he is talking about. There is no reason what so ever to kick a FG at that point in the game with the score what it was.

I can understand the outcry from gamblers. But that is not an automatic go for it on 4th down situation there. There is 4+ minutes left in the game and you have timeouts. A FG there, and a stop on defense, then you win the game flat out with a TD. You don't have to worry about making the 2 point conversion just to TIE the game.

Graham is a defensive coach. He played it conservative thinking his shitty defense could get a stop. They couldn't.

 

[ProphetablePicks]

I can understand the outcry from gamblers. But that is not an automatic go for it on 4th down situation there. There is 4+ minutes left in the game and you have timeouts. A FG there, and a stop on defense, then you win the game flat out with a TD. You don't have to worry about making the 2 point conversion just to TIE the game.

Graham is a defensive coach. He played it conservative thinking his shitty defense could get a stop. They couldn't.

I am an ASU Alumn I know this team and program and Coach Graham very well. It was a bad call. If you have a weak defense you don't give the ball back to Wash State and Faulk to end the game. If you no your team well which he obviously does not he takes his shot right than and there to try and tie the game up. Of course even if they did tie it up they probably lose on a FG as ASU is horrific on defense and would have had a hard time stopping them forcing the game into OT.Overall down 8 with that much time left you go for a TD knowing that the chances of getting the ball back on low and being down 5 is still having to score a TD.

 

[ca$hmoney]

Have you seen Arizona State play the past 2 games?

Do you know the Sun Devils are down to their 4th string QB?

I did not but that makes me even more confident in a shit ducks team taking out their frustrations on asu

 

[DesertDevil]

I am an ASU Alumn I know this team and program and Coach Graham very well.

So am I. And so do I. And I am not a big Graham fan. Especially his in game coaching.

But I stand by my statement. It's not automatic. Many factors go into making those decisions.

 

[sendacash]

What's the word around the Duck program, is Helfrich on borrowed time and are these guys gonna lay down the rest of the way? Not a great spot for the Ducks imo coming off the OT loss, but Az. State is kind of a mess as well. Just my take, but I don't think its wise to lay more than a TD with a team yet to cover a spread all season.

 

[DesertDevil]

What's the word around the Duck program, is Helfrich on borrowed time and are these guys gonna lay down the rest of the way? Not a great spot for the Ducks imo coming off the OT loss, but Az. State is kind of a mess as well. Just my take, but I don't think its wise to lay more than a TD with a team yet to cover a spread all season.

Dillon Sterling-Cole is a true freshman that is in no way ready to be a D1 starter. Wilkins the starter is out. Brady White, the back up, out. And the other guy that battled for the job preseason, Bryce Perkins, went out before game one and still has never seen the field. IMO, Perkins might end up the starter next season as Im not all that impressed with Wilkins. And Brady White flat out sucks.

As bad as Oregon has been, I just think it will be a tough task for Sterling-Cole to go in there and move the ball on offense. The Duck's run defense sucks. But they are really going to be able to load the box in this one.

And we all know how bad the ASU defense is. I never bet against my Devils. But no way in hell Im backing them this game...

 

[jimmymo]

There is 4+ minutes left in the game and you have timeouts..

I am fairly sure ASU had only one TO left, which was a big part of the equation. I definitely disagree with Graham, but I've seen worse

 

[jimmymo]

Weird card in the P12 this week Conan....I am on Utah b/c I grabbed 11 early and figured it may drop (and still actually think it may dip below 10, at which point I may consider coming back).

I just have this feeling that both Stanford and Oregon cover, at a time where everyone is just floored that they are laying the chalk they are. Leaning WSU, but I think Oregon State can be a bit of a pest and WSU is in a bit of a flat spot in the second of b2b roadies. Do like the direction of USC, but the number seems way too big -- lean strongly to Cal, as I think they do score some points

GL with the card this week :toast:

 

[DesertDevil]

I am fairly sure ASU had only one TO left, which was a big part of the equation. I definitely disagree with Graham, but I've seen worse

For the record, Im not necessarily agreeing withe the move either. Just saying thats not an automatic go on 4th down situation there.

 

[WinOne]

DD/PP completely agree with both you gents. Graham thought his defense could get a stop, knowing Wazzu was gonna throw it. Remember, they were getting big hits on the Wazzu QB, so much so that he was being tended to on the sidelines during that last ASU drive. We know the ASU defense is BAD, but no parent thinks their "baby" is UGLY and Graham thought his ugly baby could get a stop. Graham played the percentages. We're all ASU alums ('87) and I played there as well.
ASU plays the run very good. Their pass defense if horrible though. Oregon does not throw it particularly well and because ASU will most likely want to run the ball, this game looks to be UNDER the total.

 

[duckhunter]

I am an ASU Alumn I know this team and program and Coach Graham very well. It was a bad call. If you have a weak defense you don't give the ball back to Wash State and Faulk to end the game. If you no your team well which he obviously does not he takes his shot right than and there to try and tie the game up. Of course even if they did tie it up they probably lose on a FG as ASU is horrific on defense and would have had a hard time stopping them forcing the game into OT.Overall down 8 with that much time left you go for a TD knowing that the chances of getting the ball back on low and being down 5 is still having to score a TD.

Exactly!!! It would have been a great call IF you had a decent defense...something that is rare in the Pac-12!

 

[ShortBusDriver7]

USC just got booooooombed. from 16.5 to 20 in a matter of a few minutes