Well Rigged

[ProPokerPlayer]

PokerStars Game #19900901509: Tournament #103652966, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/08/25 - 21:47:44 (ET)
Table '103652966 163' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: shhh...cops (3420 in chips)
Seat 2: mixx26 (2960 in chips)
Seat 3: 88Blast (2930 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: jayzmo (2575 in chips)
Seat 5: allynlong (2960 in chips)
Seat 6: Solent26 (3500 in chips)
Seat 7: Q('_')--ox_O (2530 in chips)
Seat 8: SINSOUL (3015 in chips)
Seat 9: downosaur (9070 in chips)
Q('_')--ox_O: posts small blind 15
SINSOUL: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allynlong [8h 8s]
downosaur: folds
shhh...cops: folds
mixx26: calls 30
88Blast: folds
jayzmo: folds
allynlong: raises 60 to 90
Solent26: folds
Q('_')--ox_O: folds
SINSOUL: calls 60
mixx26: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Tc 8c 3h]
SINSOUL: checks
mixx26: checks
allynlong: bets 180
SINSOUL: calls 180
mixx26: calls 180
*** TURN *** [Tc 8c 3h] [7h]
SINSOUL: checks
mixx26: checks
allynlong: bets 1050
SINSOUL: calls 1050
mixx26: folds
*** RIVER *** [Tc 8c 3h 7h] [2c]
SINSOUL: bets 1695 and is all-in
allynlong: calls 1640 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (55) returned to SINSOUL
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SINSOUL: shows [Jh 9h] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
allynlong: shows [8h 8s] (three of a kind, Eights)
allynlong said, "well rigged"
SINSOUL collected 6205 from pot

 

[theMadMan]

PokerStars Game #19900901509: Tournament #103652966, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/08/25 - 21:47:44 (ET)
Table '103652966 163' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: shhh...cops (3420 in chips)
Seat 2: mixx26 (2960 in chips)
Seat 3: 88Blast (2930 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 4: jayzmo (2575 in chips)
Seat 5: allynlong (2960 in chips)
Seat 6: Solent26 (3500 in chips)
Seat 7: Q('_')--ox_O (2530 in chips)
Seat 8: SINSOUL (3015 in chips)
Seat 9: downosaur (9070 in chips)
Q('_')--ox_O: posts small blind 15
SINSOUL: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to allynlong [8h 8s]
downosaur: folds
shhh...cops: folds
mixx26: calls 30
88Blast: folds
jayzmo: folds
allynlong: raises 60 to 90
Solent26: folds
Q('_')--ox_O: folds
SINSOUL: calls 60
mixx26: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Tc 8c 3h]
SINSOUL: checks
mixx26: checks
allynlong: bets 180
SINSOUL: calls 180
mixx26: calls 180
*** TURN *** [Tc 8c 3h] [7h]
SINSOUL: checks
mixx26: checks
allynlong: bets 1050
SINSOUL: calls 1050
mixx26: folds
*** RIVER *** [Tc 8c 3h 7h] [2c]
SINSOUL: bets 1695 and is all-in
allynlong: calls 1640 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (55) returned to SINSOUL
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SINSOUL: shows [Jh 9h] (a straight, Seven to Jack)
allynlong: shows [8h 8s] (three of a kind, Eights)
allynlong said, "well rigged"
SINSOUL collected 6205 from pot

Dude...
thats Really not a good call on the river.....

Bad Play in my Book
SORRY
The software had nothing to with it!!!

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Once the idiot called over 1/3 his stack with 8 outs and then led into me , well i see that from 70 yr old ladies at the casino everyday...He just hit his hand. I got half my chips in the pot, they are going to screw me..thats obvious. why sit there like yesterday and fold 70 hands or lose the next hand to a 1 outer? they've already told me i got no shot so i get the fuck up and leave..I got into it for 5 bucks and they gave me 5 bucks worth and showed me the door...

 

[timotinbowen]

PPP, do you really think it's rigged? I see you constantly talking about what FTP "did to you," and I can't tell if you're being serious. There is a reason why some players are able to consistently win money and increase their stakes. It is because they play solid poker and evaluate their own play, not make excuses for their losses by saying it is the fault of the site. You seem to be a good guy, but a lot of the hands you show as examples are suspect at best. Of course their is variance, but I doubt you have done any significant numerical analysis to back your claims. For example, do you have pokertracker? This would give you an EV graph as well as an actual earnings graph, so you could see if you're actually getting as unlucky as you think you are. Just my two cents, but it seems you have some major leaks at the micro-stakes games, and your time would be better spent fixing those if you intend to get serious about poker.

 

[HatTrick]

PPP, do you really think it's rigged? I see you constantly talking about what FTP "did to you," and I can't tell if you're being serious. There is a reason why some players are able to consistently win money and increase their stakes. It is because they play solid poker and evaluate their own play, not make excuses for their losses by saying it is the fault of the site. You seem to be a good guy, but a lot of the hands you show as examples are suspect at best. Of course their is variance, but I doubt you have done any significant numerical analysis to back your claims. For example, do you have pokertracker? This would give you an EV graph as well as an actual earnings graph, so you could see if you're actually getting as unlucky as you think you are. Just my two cents, but it seems you have some major leaks at the micro-stakes games, and your time would be better spent fixing those if you intend to get serious about poker.

Tim, you make too much sense. Therefore PPP will be allergic to your words. Kudos for trying though.

 

[timotinbowen]

Tim, you make too much sense. Therefore PPP will be allergic to your words. Kudos for trying though.

Thanks, but I just noticed I used the wrong form of "there." Doh!

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

No ofcourse ur right. I blew up on that hand because i was still on tilt from the day before. When i get pissed instead of breaking shit or writing Stars a Bill Fillmaff email i just blow up in here...Nobody gets hurt and the next day i can come back and see how stupid i was..

I do have pokertracker, i use PT2 for Omaha and PT3 for NL.....and i am familar with the graphs but not the 1 ur talking about. Im going to see if i can do the 1 ur talking about. If u read this would you tell me how to do it in case i cant figure it out?

I have improved probably 3 fold in the last yr and a half or so, but my biggest problems still are concentration on the other players (i tend to have these lapses where i play my own cards and seperate myself from the game..if that makes any sense at all) and #2..Tilt...And its the depressed " i never have any luck" self pity kind of Tilt that guarantees every chip u put in a pot is gone forever..lol

believe it or not its caused me more problems live than online...Im fairly close to all the local dealers here aand to a man they will tell u im probably 1 of the best limit players there..untill some 70 yr old hits a gutshot on me at the river after ive capped it every street. I dont blow up like most ppl, i do the opposite and goi into a shell. I lose my aggressiveness, i start playing just my cards and well making mistakes i normally wouldnt make. Ive read every book, been to 2 psychologists and ive gotten better but its something i cant control once it sets in.
I do now withdraw any extra money and drop on down to even $3 games now where i used to would just but heads with myself till i was broke.

P.S. since nobody much will read this im going to let this out also.Im not sure if its all random or not and will probably go to the grave undecided but regardless among the regulars im known now as someone who thinks its rigged and will lay down hands against scare cards, reraises, etc...generally a very passive image. I WANT that image. I learned to play proper poker reading books, playing zillions of hands and watching and learning from a few select solid players. Mattster24 for 1..But in the last yr and a half i have studied almost exclusively the games of BelowAbove, Annette_15, Pearljammer and BoDog Ari....far from "proper" players. When i raise UTG today im as lekely to have a suited 1 gapper or a pr of 4's then the AA, AK my reputation leads them to put me on..Its the single sole reason ive gone from being ranked at OPR in the 66% percentile a yr ago to over 98% today..
Im getting there and i appreciate guys like you who help put me back on the track when i get off......