Welcome to CORPORATE Vegas.......Screw you MANDALAY BAY!!

[Fishhead]

From the Las Vegas Advisor Lite newsletter:

No Drinks for VP at MBay

Here's a shocker: Mandalay Bay is no longer comping drinks for machine players at its bars. After hearing about the new policy, we went down to check it out and, sure enough, no comps anywhere. We went next door to Luxor and comps were still secure, so it looks like a MBay-only thing.

This is big news, as it flies in the face of one of Las Vegas' longest-running gambling traditions: Play a roll of quarters, get a comped drink. From a mathematical standpoint, it's easy to see why they've done it -- the VP-for-a-drink play is one of the most liberal comps available (see explanation at www.lasvegasadvisor.com/freedrink.cfm ) -- but it's just too entrenched to change now. The same move was made several years ago by MGM Grand, and was quickly reversed when customers deserted the MGM bars. There was no business in the MBay bars either when we checked, where it will now cost you $4.50 minimum (for a Budweiser) -- if you choose to give it to them

 

[GreenDoberman]

Wow!
I read about this in another person's post, but had a hard time believing it.
I can understand when places will refuse a free drink for those abusing the policy, but this is shocking.

 

[wantitall4moi]

Mandalay was screwing the gamblers long ago. That used to be the place I stayed on my weekend sojourns. But they were taking compps away a lonmg time ago, that is why I don't even go near that place anymore.

All they want are the euro-trash, nuevou-riche wannabes in that place now. They sell and image and they fake people out by pretending to keep that image up, but when they start taking away the things that the lower level patrons look for, it is apparant what they really stand for.

 

[ChuckSims]

Maybe MB came to the conclussion that only locals were taking advantage of the comps. And thats not good business because the tourists are the ones that spend the cash.

 

[RIOSHILL]

Pretty sad stuff. Just wait, more horrible things to come.

 

[Fezzik]

Just bet $100 at the sportsbook, and you will get several drink tickets. They have a dimeline, a dart thrower will lose $2.50 or so.

 

[bulldog77]

Fezzik:
Hopefully some MB beancounter didn't see that or it will be gone by morning with the free drinks for bar players.

 

[stlrocker]

Tear the place down and put the Hacienda back. Too bad that can't happen. The Hacienda Rocked. I certainly will not step inside MB. I actually never did because I'm still pissed that the Hacienda is gone.

Rock On, \,,/ \,,/

 

[WildBill]

The Hacienda, oh my what a dump in its dying years. That was like the maid's quarters for rooms, I had a buddy that always got a deal and stayed there. I remember they were open like 10 days before they blew the place up and it was a ghost town in there. I never saw so many employees standing around without anything to do. The place needed to go.

As for the VP situation, it would be one thing if the games were beatable or even slightly negative. But of course not, they probably were 7/5 Jacks or Better type games. Still can't you just go and play at a regular, non-bar machine, and get a free drink?

 

[Fishhead]

Like I mentioned, this hurts the bartenders more than anyone.

 

[packer2012]

Hey Fish!

Don't you think all this sort of thing will get far worse when the merger goes through?

I say "when" because in the real world there is no way in hell that merger would be allowed. But... MB Entertainment and especially MGM/Mirage have licked so many sacks and paid off so many politicians that it will surely go through without even the slightest hitch!

Will kill competition. I am not the biggest of Steve Wynn fans, but..

I REALLY hope he opens up and criples lots of these places. Though, he will cripple them for sure on the real high end play and I guess that will just trickle down and kill all the midsize and smaller players to an even larger extent.

 

[ChuckSims]

Steve Wynn's new casino will be the happening place in Las Vegas when it opens. I hope he buries the MGM/Mirage.

 

[elgordo+]

A regular non bar Vp machine can get you a drink also but it can take alot longer at times and you don't get a chance to meet as many people. IMO

 

[exilarch]

Mandalay is stupid. Everybody knows that drunk players lose more money.Vegas was built on this principle.

 

[MeantownScum]

Get them in, and keep them in...

Shouldn't this still be the main focus of all gambling establishments??

 

[RIOSHILL]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by exilarch:
Mandalay is stupid. Everybody knows that drunk players lose more money.Vegas was built on this principle.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I 2nd that!!

 

[coloradobuff]

There sportsbook bites also...

Ex: There baseball futures are a joke..they have about 12-15 teams at less than 15/1...

And even worse they dont take any more than $500 exposure on nascar weekly futures..

So if you want to bet on a 100/1 shot, the most u can bet on him is $5..now thats pathetic..guess they dont like money..

 

[bulldog77]

Stayed at the Hacienda in '93 and '94 and loved it. There was actually room to breath down there then, inside the hotel and out. I thought it was very well-maintained and I have stayed at roughly 12 places on strip and 6 places downtown and boulderr strip since and it ranks in top 3rd in most categories.
I've stopped in at MB a couple times and I wasn't impressed much. Nice sportsbook to watch a game but bet somewhere else as they are wimps. "A grind joint is a grind joint no matter how big they make it" applies well to MB.