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Urge to post just made me come on the RX again. Fade or follow- don't care.

Stanford -13. Going contrarian here since the majority of the $ is on OSU. After all, Stanford coming off a huge USC win, playing on a short week, and Hogan's ankle is not 100%. But, there's more here than all that.

Oregon State opened at +17 because I think the oddsmakers know how bad the Beavers are. They didn't put Weber St. away until the 4th quarter- yes Weber, a doormat of the Big Sky. Then they played about 1 decent quarter vs. Michigan before totally getting dominated in the 2nd half (almost no offense). Last week they were struggling with San Jose in the 2nd qtr. when SJ's QB hurt his ankle. The replacement, Joel Gray, was much less mobile and a turnover machine. You could tell the SJ coaches didn't trust Gray and their game plan got way too conservative. OSU took advantage of it with a 21 point flurry in the 3rd qtr.

The Beavers have not recruited well for many years (those damn Ducks!) and it has showed the last 2-3 seasons. Usually, though, they have one or two quality aspects of their game- last 2 years they could pass well (2 years ago Brandin Cooks was a 1 man offense). Or in earlier years they could play tough D. This year I don't see one outstanding part of their game. QB Seth Collins, a true frosh, is very much developing and other than taking off to run, doesn't look ready to play in the PAC 12. My play here is that the Stanford backup QB, Chryst, will play well if needed, and that the Beavers will play at least one half like total crap. They're young and not that talented. Stanford doesn't play this game in a rain storm, typical in the NW, and will enjoy the national TV exposure.
 

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good to see your posts! always like your insights! thanks for posting!
 

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Fred...........welcome back for another season............nice write up...........BOL this week end...........indy
 

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Sure has been a while.
Good to see you back and GL this season.
 

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Stanford made some nice defensive adjustments at the half. Whether they cover remains to be seen.
 

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Nice call, Fred.

Wish I had seen this before lighting my money on fire by putting it on the Beavers.

Keep the winners coming.
 

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Arizona +3. This is a game that I think Arizona knows can make the college football world take notice of them. Anu Solomon has a little (maybe a lot) of Mariota in his play. He's become a legit dual threat with his improved passing accuracy and patience with plays as they develop. He has a year on his belt which can't be said for Josh Rosen. Rosen got almost too much acclaim from playing so well vs. Virginia in game #1. But.. if you've seen Virginia's D, you know that is part of his success. BYU brought him down to earth last week. This is Rosen's first tough road game. Arizona, at night- hot, loud and expectations high. UCLA is also missing possibly 3 of their best defenders, including Myles Jack- easily their best defender and a playmaker you can't replace. This evens out the defenses a bit. UCLA's defense also faces their first really mobile QB. Arizona has the skill players to at least keep this close, but I think they'll pull the upset.
 

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Urge to post just made me come on the RX again. Fade or follow- don't care.

Stanford -13. Going contrarian here since the majority of the $ is on OSU. After all, Stanford coming off a huge USC win, playing on a short week, and Hogan's ankle is not 100%. But, there's more here than all that.

Oregon State opened at +17 because I think the oddsmakers know how bad the Beavers are. They didn't put Weber St. away until the 4th quarter- yes Weber, a doormat of the Big Sky. Then they played about 1 decent quarter vs. Michigan before totally getting dominated in the 2nd half (almost no offense). Last week they were struggling with San Jose in the 2nd qtr. when SJ's QB hurt his ankle. The replacement, Joel Gray, was much less mobile and a turnover machine. You could tell the SJ coaches didn't trust Gray and their game plan got way too conservative. OSU took advantage of it with a 21 point flurry in the 3rd qtr.

The Beavers have not recruited well for many years (those damn Ducks!) and it has showed the last 2-3 seasons. Usually, though, they have one or two quality aspects of their game- last 2 years they could pass well (2 years ago Brandin Cooks was a 1 man offense). Or in earlier years they could play tough D. This year I don't see one outstanding part of their game. QB Seth Collins, a true frosh, is very much developing and other than taking off to run, doesn't look ready to play in the PAC 12. My play here is that the Stanford backup QB, Chryst, will play well if needed, and that the Beavers will play at least one half like total crap. They're young and not that talented. Stanford doesn't play this game in a rain storm, typical in the NW, and will enjoy the national TV exposure.
Thanks for your thoughts on this game ... spot on and very helpful.
 

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I have a few underdogs here going against top ranked teams, thinking the favorite will just want to stay injury free, getting ready for conference play…. and not show too much offensively. Big points- again, what the hell.

Ny favorite of the bunch is:
Central Michigan +26.5. I got some of this at +28 early in the week, but I think CMU has enough offense to make this game interesting. Michigan State is getting the #1 publicity, but maybe too much. They beat Oregon, but barely, and OU's QB missed a game winning TD pass late- and played with a broken finger. Michigan State's D has injuries and has lost some absolute studs to the NFL the past 2 years. This defense is NOT elite right now- not even close. The offense is very good, but I doubt they play all out passing-wise to win by 5 TDs. CMU out gained Syracuse by 200 yards, and should have won. CMU also gave Oklahoma St. a good game, being within 4 until midway through the 4th quarter.
 

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Congrats on your Stanford ATS win, ferd. You were spot on with your analysis. :toast:
 

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Congrats on your Stanford ATS win, ferd. You were spot on with your analysis. :toast:
OSU's 2nd half was typical of what to expect of this team this year. Their defense will struggle like this against good running teams.
 

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UL Monroe +38. Saban is known for showing mercy on teams like this. He'll play 2nd and 3rd stringers in the second half, and not overdo it with blitzes or show much offensively. Ul Monroe has enough offense too to at least score 7-13 points here, and hopefully eat a little clock. With Ole Miss last week and Georgia next week, does Saban really want to risk injury here? Besides, is Alabama really as good as the national media makes them out to be? It seemed in the Ole Miss game as if they looked a little slower, a little less aggressive than what we're used to.
 

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Good info O Fred. Wife is from Portland. Love that city. Will be there during Christmas.
 

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WMU + 32.5. Ohio State might win big here, but Western Michigan played well vs. Michigan State, and has enough offense to keep within 33. When OSU OC Tom Herman left, he might have taken a chunk out of the Ohio State offensive prowess as far as the QB play has gone. Cardale Jones is still QB, but has not been consistent. Vs. better teams like Va. Tech his running is a big part of the game plan, but vs. the weaker teams, Ohio State is trying to groom him as a little more of a pocket passer. Long season for OSU, they're great, but this game doesn't mean much. Stay healthy, work on things, and get ready for Big Ten play.
 

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Arkansas State +7.5. Got a little at +9 earlier this week. Toledo has been living dangerously, but is now 2-0. They're coming off a double OT game vs.Iowa State in which they were out-gained by almost 200 yards. Same thing in their Arkansas game- out gained by 200 yards, and somehow they win. Ely, their QB, is not exactly a game breaker, passing at 48% and not much of a runner. This is too many points vs. a talented Ark. St. team, which had to start the season at USC and Missouri. Fredi Knighten, the ASU QB, should start after missing last week.
 

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UMass +29.5. Like this one almost as much as CMU. Notre Dame gave it all vs. Ga. Tech last week, escaped Virginia with a lucky last second win (vs. a very bad team), and now faces Clemson next week. They already have injuries and need stay healthy for their grueling schedule up ahead. Brian Kelly, I think, will keep that as goal #1 on Saturday. UMass has a decent passing attack, and a very accurate QB, and makes this a game for at least part of the 1st half. UMass almost pulled out a win vs. a decent Temple team, and has to like the exposure here playing ND.
 

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