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3unit plays: 2-0 +6units
2unit plays: 1-2 -2.4units
1unit plays: 2-1 +2.25units
ML Parlays: 1-0 +4.92units
Favorites: 4-3
Dogs: 1-0
SouthCar: 1-0

Overall: 6-3 +10.77units


Texas Tech-8.5..........2units

I realize the line is now 10, I bet this yesterday @ 7:30pm, it is still, too small.

First off, where do they get off making this line?

Nevada is good bet ATS at home, I understand that. Their QB Kaepernick is a good player, they are a team capable of scoring some points, BUT, their defense is bad, they will have trouble getting pressure on Harrell, and their secondary lacks playing experience. Now, that inexperienced secondary has to face the premier passing attack in the country with a deadly accurate QB and a coach who has no shame in scoring?

Is Nevada going to scoring more than 40 points in this game? I can easily see TT touching 50+


South Carolina -9..........1unit
South Carolina -10.........1unit


I’ve had some time to study Vandy now and make some better thoughts about this game as compared to what I knew about them in the preseason. After reading several reports from Vandy fans that were at the game versus Miami, Ohio, I have come to a few conclusions:
  • With a straight 4-man rush, Vandy had trouble getting to the QB. They needed to bring 5-6 guys to get pressure.
  • In both detailed reports it mentions that Vandy is vulnerable (inexperience) to misdirection plays and screens.
  • The passing game is a work in progress.
  • The size of the team, particularly the OL is small. More on this later.
  • They expect Nickson to roll out a lot of passing downs because the OL simply could not hold the pocket
  • Nickson is very dangerous with his feet, he picked up 94 of his yards on 2 runs.
  • The Vandy secondary is good and it is the strongest point of this team
  • Special teams is also pretty good, DJ Moore is a game breaker and must be contained, Kicker Hahnfeldt was on target.
Going over the Vandy depth chart that they used in WK1, I count 11 players who are Sophomores or Frosh listed on the 2-deep just on defense and that is a problem similar to what NCST faced late in the game.



Their OL had some trouble blocking MOH and I expect them to struggle even more with SC. They are not a big OL by any means:


T: So, 6’7 273, 1varsity letter
T: Jr, 6’7 305, 2varsity letter
G: So, 6’4 295, 2varsity letter
G: So, 6’4 280, 1varsity letter
C: Jr, 6’3 292, 2varsity letter


SC DL:

DE: Sr, 6’3 266, 3varsity letter / So, 6’7 282, 1varsity
DE: So, 6’4 259, 1varsity letter
DT: Jr, 6’1 287, 2varsity letter / Sr, 6’2 296, 1varsity
DT: So, 6’1 298, 1varsity letter / So, 6’4 281, 1varsity



I think the G-C-G on Vandy are going to have trouble with the pressure up the middle from SC.




I think Ellis Johnson is an excellent X & O’s Defensive Coordinator and he is going to force Nickson to throw the ball, I believe there is enough speed on defense to contain Nickson when his number is called to run the ball. He is going to take a physical beating if he rushes 20x in this game too.



I expect Vandy to come out on defense and blitz and blitz and blitz which is what they did last year but if the OL picks these blitzes up, then someone will be open. There is no excuse for the way the OL played versus NCST (4false starts, 5 sacks, holding penalty, personal foul in 1 half) and they are much better than that. This game is a measure of pride for the OL because of what unfolded last year in Columbia.

I understand Vandy might have some confidence because they did in fact beat SC last year, the fans are going to try and create a hostile environment and are reportedly trying arrange a “black out” but under Spurrier, SC has traditionally played better ATS on the road and the team tends to be more focused on road trips. The fans at SC games are hard enough on the team when all is not going well, even chanting “Garcia” in the 2<SUP>nd</SUP> quarter versus NCST so I’m sure the team won’t be phased heading into Vandy which holds around 45k. I also know that DD favorites in conference play, especially the SEC, have done terrible and SC even has a game on deck with their 2<SUP>nd</SUP> biggest rival, BUT, the team is very pissed off about last year and Vandy is going to get a full focused effort from SC. See random comments about this game:



"Oh, it definitely still bothers me," Emanuel Cook said. "That was the turning point in our season and everything went downhill from there. So we've got to make a change this year. I don't know what happened (last year). The confidence of a lot of players went down after that loss. It was a major change and it definitely showed."

"Yeah, it still bothers me," Munnerlyn said. "They messed up our perfect season because we were No. 6 in the nation. I think we just relaxed and thought they were going to lay down for us. It's still in my head. They were a good team, but I felt we were better than them. This year we're not going to think they'll lay down for us. We're going to play hard and hopefully come out with a win."


“I woke up about 3:00 a.m. (after last year's game) and thought, we just lost to Vandy. We were No. 6 in the nation. We probably could have moved up to about No. 4 because several other teams lost. But it happened and we've just got to put it behind us and go out there and play this weekend." - Munneryln


"We're just mad at ourselves for last year ," Spurrier said Sunday during his weekly press conference. "We've said many times that it was one of the worst offensive games personally I've ever attempted to coach. The second half of the North Carolina game (outscored 12-0) through the Vandy game was pretty sorry."



I think this is a 13-3type game at half and then SC begins to pull away in the second half for a convincing victory. I expect much better OL play, better QB play, the TE’s to get more involved in the game, a balanced offense, and assignment football. <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->
 

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good breakdown

Not sure which way to go on this. I like vand +10 at home this will be a close game no doubt but like you mentioned at the end s.car could pull away late in the game. This forum as many different people going one way or the other. i just might have to pass on this one and wait till sat.
 

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BOL on both of these! Really like that TT play. Yes, Nevada scores in bunches and is dangerous on all offensive fronts but they WILL have to hit 55-60 in this game.
 
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Having some trouble cutting down my leans and picking the games I want to play. Current leans:

WVU -8: Think w/ the upset of a well-known program like VT, there is value in WVU here. Friends said WVU looked like dog shit in WK1 but I think they will play better and ECU has their attention. Think like goes up from here though and not down.

SoMiss +17.5: Auburn didn't look so hot on offense in WK1, they have some injuries to deal with, they don't have the game breakers imo here, still adjusting to life with a new offense, game is at 12:30pm too and from my experience of going to early games, the crowd sucks and the team laying a lot of points can be sluggish. Force Auburn to throw the ball and don't make any mistakes and set them up with good field position. Both teams want to run, clock will be moving, strong lean to the points here.

ND -21.5: I think the reports from the SDST camp are pretty detailed enough...SDST sucks and ND has to make a statement.

UConn -7: I know Temple should of maybe won the game last year and they got robbed by the refs but I think UConn is salty enough on defense here to win this game by a fair margin. I am worried about Lorenzen sucking at QB in this game and would prefer if UConn kept the ball on the ground. Temple couldn't run on Army, they will not run on UConn which makes them 1-Dimensional and UConn pass defense is pretty good.

UL Monroe +12.5: Please tell me how Arkansas can be laying anything like this right now? This is more of a "prove me wrong" type play. They were losing in the friggen 4th last week to ultra-super-power Western Illinois and UL Monroe played better than 34-0 versus Auburn.

Other games of interest:

CMU-6
usf -13.5
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Green I like your USM and your ULM picks, USM should score some points, and Auburn has no passing game, I see a low scoring game here 24-13. Also Ark is a mess and their coach is a total turd.
 

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I like USF at -13.5 but I can't find that line anymore, it has gone up to 14.5 all over vegas so I passed on it.
 

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Just when you think AU is stinking it up they feast on teams like So Miss. That line is really tempting to me, but I need to see more out of both teams.

To me GT+7 at a weak BC is nice (already made a play there) and Tulsa -21 at a horrible UNT team is a beauty (open play here as well).

I like the Cocks vs Vandy because of their defense. I LOVE Oregon -35 vs a hapless Utah State (Ore beat UW by 34 with thrie 3rd and 4th string QB), Im looking hard at Houston -16.5 @ Okie State, Rice +3.5 @ Memphis, LSU -24 vs Troy, and my hammer Texas -26 @ UTEP.

FWIW I was 8-3 last week with one loss being a hedge on a parlay which I won. The other two were SMU and Tennessee. SMU was by far the smallest play Ive made all year.
 

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i have a contact that knows ulm like his dick. ill talk to him and see what he knows but they are a sorry team this year. lost their running back who was nasty from last year and 2 wr's to injury. idk if they can score over 10. but ill get word and pass it along, anything to help
 
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i have a contact that knows ulm like his dick. ill talk to him and see what he knows but they are a sorry team this year. lost their running back who was nasty from last year and 2 wr's to injury. idk if they can score over 10. but ill get word and pass it along, anything to help


thank you, much appreciated.
 

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