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http://www.denverpost.com/avalanche/ci_2837543

Cut in ticket prices hinges on outcome of labor contract
By Terry Frei
Denver Post Staff Writer

The NHL's collective bargaining talks are scheduled to resume Monday in New York, and barring last-minute snags, a full labor agreement between the league and its players association is expected to be announced soon - perhaps as soon as this week.

The Avalanche is waiting to see what the final terms will be before deciding whether to cut its ticket prices for the 2005-06 season.
The tentative framework of the new CBA calls for about a $36 million salary cap for each franchise, which would cut Colorado's payroll significantly from the roughly $61 million payroll the Avalanche was carrying at the end of the 2003-04 season.

That cap, if strictly enforced, would make it difficult, at best, to re-sign all of the franchise's high-profile players, even with the 24 percent salary rollbacks in existing contracts expected to be part of the agreement and would serve as benchmarks for unsigned players.

The Avalanche, which has not sent out renewal and 2005-06 price information to season ticket-holders, generally has taken a no-comment stance since the beginning of the NHL lockout in September 2004.

Paul Andrews, the executive vice president and chief marketing officer in charge of business operations and ticket issues for Kroenke Sports, declined to discuss the issue, saying Avalanche senior vice president Jean Martineau would speak for the organization.

"We're going to decide whenever there is a new CBA signing and we know exactly what the new landscape is," Martineau said. "We haven't decided anything yet because we haven't gotten all the details about the new deal. We hear speculation, but we don't know the exact content. Yes, there'll be a cap. Yes, our payroll with that cap is going to be lower, for sure. There's going to be a (luxury) tax. But we don't know all that yet.

"What I can assure our fans is that we've always had a great relationship with our fans. They've always supported us, tremendously.
"On the other side, I think they are very happy with the entertainment value. I think the best data to support that is that less than 1 percent of our entire season ticket-holders told us, 'Hey, we're not coming back.'
"We haven't decided what we're going to do, but I can tell you that for sure, we are going to take care of our fans. We have always made sure that in the marketplace, we have competitive ticket prices."

After the NHL canceled the 2004-05 season in February, the Avalanche announced that if season ticket-holders didn't seek refunds on money still on deposit with the team for the remainder of the canceled season, they would receive a 10 percent price break on 2005-06 prices - whatever those prices turn out to be. So those season ticket-holders will receive some price relief.
the 2004 NHL All-Star Game, with a possible lockout looming, commissioner Gary Bettman at least hinted rollbacks would be possible for many NHL franchises under a new deal.

"With the right economic system, we can take the pressure off of ticket prices, and I believe with the right economic system, many, if not most of our teams, will actually lower ticket prices," Bettman said then. "I believe we owe it to our fans to have affordable ticket prices.

"More than a majority of our teams would use the opportunity of economic stability to lower their ticket prices."

Also, in announcing the cancellation of the season Feb. 16, Bettman said the league probably would have to do "a lot of things" to recover from the lost season, including "with our fans in terms of ticket prices."

Avalanche single-game tickets listed on the team website for 2004-05 ranged from $224 for front-row rinkside to $25 in the upper end corner balcony. Seats in the lower bowl were $128, $108 or $99. Balcony seats were $70, $60, $50, $42 and $25. The Avs have a sellout streak dating to November 1995, and the team freezes season-ticket sales at 15,500 for the Pepsi Center, which seats 18,007 for hockey.

Around the NHL, a few teams have given at least vague indications of their plans. St. Louis, Pittsburgh, Anaheim, Ottawa, San Jose and Buffalo are among the franchises planning to cut ticket prices. Carolina, Minnesota and the New York Islanders have said they won't cut prices. Carolina's average price of $31.77 was the third-lowest in the league in 2003-04, and the Hurricanes are offering discounts to fans who left money on deposit with the franchise. The Islanders not only aren't cutting prices, but they also announced plans to add a $50 surcharge per season ticket if accounts aren't paid in full by July 29.

In Phoenix, fans who left their money on deposit through the canceled season get two-for-one season tickets. The Toronto Maple Leafs, also a hot ticket, said they won't increase prices, but have yet to make a final decision on prices. Leafs prices run from $37 to $197.
 
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There is no way the Leafs will cut prices, the demand for tickets there is so strong, they would be silly to do so.
 
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I won't be happy unless the Avs bring back their entire roster from last season. Those first 2 lines were virtually an all star squad alone! No one would beat the Avs if the new rules go into effect!
 
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have they decided what to do about the draft, who picks in what order?
 
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Wrigley, I haven't heard a word about that-but it's probably on the list of things to be discussed once the labor issues are finally resolved.
 

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When talking about hockey, COULD there ever be anything positive??
 

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Did anyone see what that jerk Roenik was saying.?

These pro-athletes are something else.
 
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Yeah, that was quite a statement by Roenik.....what an ass.
 
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playersonly69 said:
When talking about hockey, COULD there ever be anything positive??

Yes there is - My Blackhawks have not lost in over a year. :103631605
 
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Wrigley said:
have they decided what to do about the draft, who picks in what order?

From Miami-Herald:

Look for the league to hold a draft lottery on July 11. That will be the Sidney Crosby Sweepstakes. We are still hearing that every team will get a shot at the No. 1 pick, which means the Flyers, for instance, would have a 1 in 30 chance.

At the height of free agency, from 1996 through 2000, July and August were typically busy months for the NHL. In subsequent years, free agency started to wane as salaries rose out of control and teams were forced to curtail spending.

This summer's free-agent period, however, figures to be absolute chaos. Why? Because so many teams shed players and salaries last season going into the lockout. Some clubs will virtually have to remake their rosters for the coming season.

High-salaried veterans age 31 or older are either going to take enormous pay cuts or simply disappear. Because of the salary cap - expected to be anywhere from $34 million to $38 million - teams that have ample room will look for less-expensive talent to build around in the coming years.
 
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Thanks Vic, that's great news!!!

You'd have to assume that the season is now a GO GO GO if they are planning that a week from today.

:party: :party: :party:
GO AV'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Vic -

You looking forward to capping the NHL this year?
I saw in 2003-4 you had a sweet record..................
 
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EveryGamblersDream said:
I won't be happy unless the Avs bring back their entire roster from last season. Those first 2 lines were virtually an all star squad alone! No one would beat the Avs if the new rules go into effect!

Nobody except my beloved red wings...lol..To you think the rivalry has died down a little between the two?

I hope we don't see ties go to a shootout.
 
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wmublows said:
Nobody except my beloved red wings...lol..To you think the rivalry has died down a little between the two?

I hope we don't see ties go to a shootout.


Why not? I'm tired of seeing teams play for a tie if they have a game the next day. Play to win!
 

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Ties going to a shootout? why not though...they can't be playing regular season games into 3-4 OT's
 
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Journeyman said:
Ties going to a shootout? why not though...they can't be playing regular season games into 3-4 OT's


huh? they never did before either Jman (exxcept playoffs), after 5 minutes the game ended in a Tie,

now they are proposing a shootout at the end of the 5 min OT to ensure a Winner.
 
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huh? they never did before either Jman (exxcept playoffs), after 5 minutes the game ended in a Tie,

now they are proposing a shootout at the end of the 5 min OT to ensure a Winner.

Actually from what I read it would be 4 x 4 for x amount of time & if that doesn't determine a winner, then it would become 3 x 3 for x amount of time, & if the game is still tied, it would revert to a shootout.


I like this format personally.
 

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Yes I know SS...I meant why not go to a shootout, it beats a tie IMO...and having reg season games potentially go into 3-4 OTs isn't good for the league.
 

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EveryGamblersDream said:
Actually from what I read it would be 4 x 4 for x amount of time & if that doesn't determine a winner, then it would become 3 x 3 for x amount of time, & if the game is still tied, it would revert to a shootout.


I like this format personally.

Wow! Now that is completely off the wall, but would be very exciting for fans!

I'm sure the purists would cringe.
 

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