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10 THINGS TO CONSIDER BEFORE SENDING MONEY OFFSHORE

9/2/03 - The Shrink


Although there are certainly other factors gamblers should consider before sending money to an offshore sports book, I believe the list below can be used as a guideline by both the seasoned gambler and the novice.

1) YEARS IN BUSINESS Some sports books will flat out LIE to you on the phone and on the Internet. I would strongly suggest staying away from sports books that claim to have been online before 1995 because there were virtually NONE at that time.

2) PAYMENT OPTIONS There must be viable payment methods that suit YOUR needs and not just theirs. You have every right to inquire about how fast you can access your money when you ask for it and what the cost will be.

3) LOCATION- Similar to real estate, some countries have better track records than others. Antigua, Costa Rica, Panama, Australia, the UK and Curacao are some of the locations that would be on my list to consider.

4) HIGHER BONUSES AND PERKS EQUAL GREATER RISK When will gamblers ever figure this one out? If a sports book is offering more than a 20 percent sign-up bonus, I would stay far, far away! No matter how many times we emphasize this fact, gamblers come crying to us after sending money to an outfit claiming to give the player some ridiculous bonus or perk.

5) AVOID ANY SPORTS BOOK WITH THE WISE GUY/SYNDICATE RULE Simply put, this is a license to steal.

6) READ THEIR RULES AND REGULATIONS CAREFULLY Some unscrupulous operators have ridiculous rules buried somewhere in this section. One of the more dishonest ones is for them to get away without paying you if they believe you to be a wise guy or involved in a syndicate. Folks, if you and a friend are betting together and winning, that can be used against you by a sports book that has this clause. They can claim you two are a syndicate and not pay out. I have seen this happen.

7) ASK TO SPEAK WITH A SUPERVISOR OR MANAGER If you are told this person is in a meeting, chances are you will continue to hear this all season. I would avoid any sports book that says this more than one time.

8) CHECK OUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING This may be the most important factor to consider when opening an account. There is a very popular posting forum on the Rx.com Web site where gamblers share their experiences with others. But we aren't the only ones who serve as a watchdog in this industry. I'd also recommend checking out Gambling911.com, Majorwager.com, Covers.com, Madjacks.com, DonBest.com and Sportsbookreview.com. All of these establishments have been around a long time, and they do their best to protect the gambler.

9) HOW DOES YOUR SPORTS BOOK HANDLE DISPUTES? In a perfect world, this wouldn't be a factor. But we don't live in a perfect world. I would demand an answer to this question from any sports book you are considering sending money. We are one source that is willing to arbitrate on behalf of the gambler, but the sports book has to be willing to allow this to happen.

10) WHAT IS THE FINANCIAL STATUS OF YOUR BOOKMAKER? I seriously doubt you will receive an honest answer, but the value in this suggestion is to test them for outrageous lies and claims. If they tell you they have more money than any Fortune 500 company, the chances are very high they are lying. Run away while the going is good.

I am always available by phone or email for gamblers who want more information about this column or any specific sports book. You may reach me by e-mail at Shrink@therx.com or by phone at (866) 432-9922.

[This message was edited by THE SHRINK on September 02, 2003 at 03:23 PM.]
 
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good read Shrink. and good advice for all of us...


I like this part

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>8-CHECK OUT WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING-

This may be the most important factor to consider when opening up an account. We have a very popular posting forum on this site where gamblers share their experiences with others. But we aren't the only ones who serve as a watchdog in this industry. I'd also recommend checking out:

a-www.gambling911.com
b-www.majorwager.com
c-www.covers.com and
d-www.madjacks.com.
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it is good to see what other info is around also...great point
 

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"Just as in real estate, some countries have better track records than others. Antigua, Costa Rica, Panama, Australia, The UK, & Curacao are some of the locations that would be on my A list to consider."- The Shrink

Panama????????
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Panama has a POOR TRACK RECORD!
 

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Ken,

What positives can YOU give your readers about Panama's past track record concerning online sportsbooks?
 

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Shrink,
How bout Carib & Hollywood sending funds to Belize???
 

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Wonderful write-up Shrink. Everybody in this forum should take notes on what you just discussed. I suggest this thread be bumped up near the top of the forum often for posters not to miss.
 

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Fishhead,

You've been 'around...'

What is YOUR take on Panama's past track record concerning online sportsbooks?
 

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FatFrank,

With all due respect, I would have had the same sentiments you share about Panama before I went there a month or two ago...

I am willing to stake my reputation that this is a safe haven for gamblers to choose, and I'd be willing to bet you any amount of money that there will be an enormous influx of sports books leaving Costa Rica and headed to Panama by next Football Season...

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I dont know about Panama (I believe neither does the writer),but as for Belize and Costa Rica I m pretty sure that one can find much safer places to send his money.
 

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Ken, I agree with your statement, "sports books leaving Costa Rica and headed to Panama..."

About staking your reputation... ONLY time will be the judge. I hope you're right.

*I* could NOT recommend Panama as a place to park a large % of anyone's funds. That is just me, tho.

[This message was edited by FatFrank on September 02, 2003 at 10:59 AM.]
 

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Fishhead... What is your opinion?

What is YOUR take on Panama's past track record concerning online sportsbooks?
 

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FatFrank- Really couldnt comment with any real accuracy on Panamas past online ventures at this time, specifically because I honestly do not know that much about it. The Shrink would have much more of an idea than me.

However, from all indications, the current state of affairs in Panama look very promising from all the reports that I have been receiving from that jurisdiction. Can fully understand your thoughts of treading water lightly there at this exact point in time however. Having the Shrink endorsing them gives me personally more confidence in them. Are they are on par with UK and Australia right now?....I would say no. Hopefully they closely will be in a very short time. Good luck Frank.
 

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GREAT post Ken
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I agre with all of these points, and would like to add another bases upon my personal experiences & observations.

11. If a book EXCESSIVELY markets or spams you (I'm talking BetOnSports style, not an honest marketing strategy), then you will MOST LIKELY have a VERY NEGATIVE experience.

My best experiences have been with the books that treat you like a valued customer - and NOT a number (ie Rio, BlueGrass, etc ...).
 

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>FatFrank- Really couldnt comment with any real accuracy on Panamas past online ventures at this time

I will check into this but... I believe Panama has a history of their Gov't confiscating PLAYER'S FUNDS!
 

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JLS:

Re: Carib & Hollywood sending $ to Belize.

Carib is based in Belize.

Hollywoood is based in CR. But the banking system in Belize is better than CR's in my opinion, at least at this time.

Nothing is wrong with either book.
 

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everybody giving the
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are paid employees. I think FF is right I've read the same things about panama. Can somebody confirm this?
 

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Shrink great write up, I couldnt have said it better myself, all the newbies MUST read this thread!!!! Thats why this site is the best, always looking out for the player, because shrink is a player!! I only have 1 comment, I believe location is overrated, a thief is a thief no matter where he is located, the rest is great!
 

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