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I'm not sure how many of you live in the valley, have someone that can place a bet for you, or will be coming here any time soon but here's a list of the best Stanley Cup odds you can find in the city as of today, (9/10).

I couldn’t pass on two teams and hit them both today. Stars at 25/1 and Chicago at 40/1. Both of those odds may have been adjusted.


Detroit-------------5/1----------------Cal-Neva
Anaheim-----------12/1---------------MGM
Pittsburgh----------7/1---------------Hilton/Cal-Neva
San Jose ----------10/1--------------Hilton/Venetian
NY Rangers--------17/1--------------Arizona Charlie’s, (Stratosphere)
Dallas--------------25/1--------------Hilton
Montreal-----------15/1--------------Cal-Neva
Ottawa------------25/1---------------Venetian
Washington--------15/1---------------numerous locations
New Jersey--------25/1---------------Venetian
Philadelphia--------20/1---------------Hilton
Calgary------------32/1---------------Venetian
Colorado-----------35/1--------------Venetian
Minnesota----------25/1---------------Hilton/MGM/Venetian
Vancouver---------35/1---------------Palms
Nashville-----------50/1--------------Wynn/Golden Nugget
Chicago------------40/1---------------Arizona Charlie’s, (Stratosphere)
Carolina------------50/1---------------Arizona Charlie’s, (Stratosphere)
Florida-------------75/1---------------Venetian
Edmonton----------50/1---------------Stations/Cal-Neva/Palms
Tampa Bay---------45/1---------------Arizona Charlie’s, (Stratosphere)
Boston-------------50/1---------------Hilton/Cal-Neva
Buffalo-------------50/1---------------Cal-Neva
Toronto-----------100/1---------------Hilton
NY Islanders--------80/1---------------MGM
Columbus-----------85/1---------------Harrah’s
St Louis------------75/1---------------MGM/Wynn/Cal-Neva
Phoenix------------100/1--------------Hilton/Cal-Neva
Atlanta------------100/1--------------Hilton/Harrah’s/Cal-Neva/Golden Nugget
Los Angeles--------100/1--------------numerous locations
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Hey Vic, here's a question for ya. Do you really think Chicago has improved to the point where they will at least make some noise this year in the West? I know a lot of people are really excited about their squad this year...

I know your play on them is partly value, but I guess I might be the only one who thinks Chicago completely screwed up their offseason, netting two players they don't need and turning from a good young team to a team with several holes that is above the cap. I mean, they will get absolutely nothing for Khabibulin... a mid round pick at most, so it's not like they have any assets to move.

Although a bit small and injury prone, I do like their top six of Havlat/Lang/Sharp/Toews/Ladd/Kane. However, their D looks absolutely horrid, at least from a defensive stand point. They do not have a single dman who I'd consider a "shut down" defensive dman. In fact, after Campbell (who IMO is as overrated as they come), they are relying on young, weak, inexperienced dmen and a couple veterans who would be lucky to make most other teams. There is nothing on the farm, as Cam Barker looks to be a bust. Even if he does make the team, he's in the same mold as most of their top guys... an offensive guy who has trouble in his own end.

Huet should be ok, but he was running on adrenaline at the end of last season. To expect him to duplicate the 2008 stretch drive is unfair, but if Khabibulin is moved for a mid round pick or lost on waivers, I suppose it's a lateral movement.

I don't know.... I find it hard to believe that Chicago can finish higher than 7th, and last more than 5 games in a playoff series....
 

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Who was it that said, the best defense is a good offense?

I don’t know what to expect from Chicago this year and frankly if I hadn’t stumbled on a 40/1 price I would never had taken them. Truth is I played them for only a unit while I took Dallas at 25/1 for considerably more. I’m certainly not saying that Chicago is a complete team, (while Dallas is), but we are only in September and who knows what kind of squad they could be by March. My attitude on playing hockey futures during the summer is to take longshots. Buy low sell high, etc.

You’re assessment of the Blackhawks mirrors mine excluding Campbell. Although I do agree he’s not necessarily a shut down defenseman but that’s not what he’s paid for. You can not deny his puck moving ability and his considerable offensive talent. His speed matches up with what Chicago has up front and his transition into a Blackhawks jersey should come seamlessly. It’s clear Chicago will utilize a up tempo game and they need to win by outscoring their opponent. For this reason I also agree with you that Huet’s numbers probably will not resemble what he did in Washington, (although the Caps aren’t exactly a defensive minded squad themselves).

But all this leads me to think Chicago could have one of those charmed years. Their game plan lends itself for excitement which will continue to fire renewed fan interest in a great hockey town that has been dormant for so long. Finally having games on TV. The game in Wrigley on New Year’s day. This could be the Washington Capitals of last year and like Washington could start out slow but gain momentum throughout the year.

After Detroit, Anaheim, San Jose, and Dallas the west is a serious crapshoot. In my mind you can throw a blanket over most of the rest. Chicago is as good as any of the rest at this point. I think there is an advantage if they don’t fit the mold of a typical western conference team and kind of go against the grain. They certainly can't be as physical as their western compatriots.

The signing of Huet before getting rid of Khabibulin was curious and clearly a mistake at this point. When I saw the signing I just assumed there was a deal in place already. Now it's obvious the cap hit will handcuff them and necessitate additions via the trade route. They undoubtedly will get nothing for him and someone could find a real steal with Khabibulin.

I don’t know if I’ll see any return on my investment with them but one thing’s for sure, I should get my monies worth of entertainment.

Go Blackhawks!
 

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I see a team such as Colorado making a pitch for Khabibulin. He could instantly turn that team into a bonafide contender.
 

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There's a few there that I absolutely love. NYR at 17/1 is incredible odds as well as Ottawa 25/1 and Minnesota 25/1. If those are the lines I can get online I will play them all for a considerable amount. Can't wait for the season win total lines to come out. Ottawa and Minnesota are two very underrated teams this year. Ottawa is really the same team most had as one of, if not the top team in the Eastern Conference last year. Coaching was a big issue last year, and they got that fixed. I think they can hang with and possibly beat the Pens to be the top dog in the East.
 

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OTK..I respectfully couldn't disagree with you more. No one knows yet if they fixed their coaching problem yet or not. They addressed it. It's yet to be fixed. But the coaching wasn't the main problem in Ottawa, the goaltending was. And that hasn't even been addressed as of yet. Alex Auld is not a fix. And Minnesota sure got a lot slower this off season adding Brunette and Owen Nolan and losing Brian Rolston and Pavel Demitra.
The Rangers lost Jagr, Avery and Straka and have yet to sign Shanahan and added a Nasland on the downslope and a very over rated, over paid Wade Redden.
I'm sorry man...personally...I dont like ANY of these 3 teams.

MYself...I like the Blue Jackets, Stars, Wings and Preds.
 

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Who was it that said, the best defense is a good offense?

I don’t know what to expect from Chicago this year and frankly if I hadn’t stumbled on a 40/1 price I would never had taken them. Truth is I played them for only a unit while I took Dallas at 25/1 for considerably more. I’m certainly not saying that Chicago is a complete team, (while Dallas is), but we are only in September and who knows what kind of squad they could be by March. My attitude on playing hockey futures during the summer is to take longshots. Buy low sell high, etc.

You’re assessment of the Blackhawks mirrors mine excluding Campbell. Although I do agree he’s not necessarily a shut down defenseman but that’s not what he’s paid for. You can not deny his puck moving ability and his considerable offensive talent. His speed matches up with what Chicago has up front and his transition into a Blackhawks jersey should come seamlessly. It’s clear Chicago will utilize a up tempo game and they need to win by outscoring their opponent. For this reason I also agree with you that Huet’s numbers probably will not resemble what he did in Washington, (although the Caps aren’t exactly a defensive minded squad themselves).

But all this leads me to think Chicago could have one of those charmed years. Their game plan lends itself for excitement which will continue to fire renewed fan interest in a great hockey town that has been dormant for so long. Finally having games on TV. The game in Wrigley on New Year’s day. This could be the Washington Capitals of last year and like Washington could start out slow but gain momentum throughout the year.

After Detroit, Anaheim, San Jose, and Dallas the west is a serious crapshoot. In my mind you can throw a blanket over most of the rest. Chicago is as good as any of the rest at this point. I think there is an advantage if they don’t fit the mold of a typical western conference team and kind of go against the grain. They certainly can't be as physical as their western compatriots.

The signing of Huet before getting rid of Khabibulin was curious and clearly a mistake at this point. When I saw the signing I just assumed there was a deal in place already. Now it's obvious the cap hit will handcuff them and necessitate additions via the trade route. They undoubtedly will get nothing for him and someone could find a real steal with Khabibulin.

I don’t know if I’ll see any return on my investment with them but one thing’s for sure, I should get my monies worth of entertainment.

Go Blackhawks!

They got under the cap.... although I did not think they would do it this way.
 

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Lang Dealt to the Habs

MONTREAL -- Canadiens GM Bob Gainey announced Friday the acquisition of forward Robert Lang from the Chicago Blackhawks, in return for a second-round selection in the 2010 NHL Entry Draft (acquired from Toronto along with Greg Pateryn, in return for Mikhaïl Grabovski on July 3, 2008).
 

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Habs odds in Vegas....

Venetian-----14/1
Lucky's, Palms, Boyd and Hilton-----12/1
MGM, Wynn, Station, South Point, Cannery, Leroys, Golden Nugget----10/1
Arizona Charlie's ----8/1
Harrah's----6/1
 

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found a shop offshore with 50/1 on the black hawks


Even though it's hard to imagine Chicago hoisting any cups real soon 50/1 is a solid number for any team that has realistic playoff hopes.
 

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Holy crap!

The best I can find on betbrain for Chicago is 15/1 at digibet. Pinny second best at +1356.

Great find Savant. Question is can you trust this un-named shop?
 

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my bad....I must have hit Chicago for the conference.

Now I see the real odds on the Blackhawks and where your 50/1 is at.
 

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my bad....I must have hit Chicago for the conference.

Now I see the real odds on the Blackhawks and where your 50/1 is at.

actually, I see that other 50/1 also, but that is not where mine is at....

nonetheless, not sure if I can trust or not.
 

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picking futures out of the w. conference is difficult for me to do as i see it coming down to dallas, det, and sj...might play a little on edmonton to win division and conference, if i think i can scalp back/hedge profits on those tickets come playoff time.

i like boston, tb, and wash out of the east and will likely fade montreal/pitt divisional odds (by playing boston/buff/ott in NE div, and nj/ny/phi ni the atlantic), weighted toward boston and nj winning divisions
 

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You fellas think we're going to see as tight an overall league as last season?

In which "home ice" advantage at the leaguewide level was almost non existent and with only about 5 to 6 teams out of playoff contention even as late as March 1.

Also, noticed that with exception of Detroit at +70 and Montreal at +45, very few teams had a scoring margin of more than +20 which is of course just 1/4 of a goal per game average.

And only five teams (NYI, TOR, TB, ATL, LAK) had negative scoring margins of more than 25.
 

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