V-Wager HOCKEY CONTEST STANDINGS - Thru Jan 1

[JOH]

<><><><> The 2003-04

Hockey Contest <><><><>

***************** Money Leaders *****************

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Rank Player $ YTD Thur 1 -> -> ->

1 cmogly 2636 -19 -119 100
2 chach 2469 -119 -119 -100 100
3 CrAzY Jivin' IvaN 1796 -219 -100 -119
4 MT_Pockets 1503 -219 -100 -119
5 guysmiley 1337 0 push
6 Jack of Hearts 1318 -100 -100 100 -100
7 scripter 934 0
8 Silver Pegasus 907 0
9 weebs 854 100 NP NP 100
10 manly 789 -28 -128 push 100
11 giorg0s 765 -100 -100
12 Uncle Moneybags 759 9 109 -100
13 gambl0r 668 -219 -100 -119
14 HateTheRiverCard 645 0
15 EveryGamblersDream 627 0
16 spidermonkey 570 0
17 No Cred 527 0
18 Burner 1 485 -119 NP -119
19 Allstar 457 0
20 laxer 390 0
21 neilm 364 -347 -128 -119 -100
22 The MD Kid 353 0
23 Ice King 302 0
24 smoothie 300 0
25 tootired 297 0
26 Blacklab 234 0
27 vegasguy39 222 0
28 EYO's Chadman 207 0
29 Iwannawin 206 0
30 ThreeUnits 193 0
31 padres12 187 0
32 Egis 184 0
33 bucsfan67 180 0
34 Oracle 177 0
35 iceman2002 151 -147 -128 100 -119
36 sick gambler 129 0
37 Patrick McIrish 113 0
38 wagara 110 0
39 raiders72001 102 0
40 Big Jesss 100 0
40 BlueBombers2003 100 0
40 GottaWinToday 100 0
40 waymac 100 0
44 MPriorCanKu 83 0
45 blue edwards 80 0
46 SLUGGO 69 0
47 blkjk 63 0
48 sportsbet 49 0
49 Thunder 40 0
50 TIME TO MAKE $$$ 38 0
51 LogansRun 36 0
52 BuzzRavanaugh 10 0
53 ScoobySnacks 5 0
54 mdrams 2 0
55 RPM 0 0
56 Kris1 -32 0
57 CINCI_HUGG -44 0
58 mrgas41 -51 0
59 Augustus -58 0
60 CD155 -60 0
61 lander -80 0
62 The Quiet Man -100 0
63 Blown Head Gasket -128 0
64 Rude -137 0
65 nidman -148 0
66 Budman -151 0
66 Rosemary -151 0
68 sidingman -158 0
69 G. MONEY -164 -219 -119 -100
70 vycka -174 0
71 vinividivinci -184 0
72 mr. obvious -187 0
73 playersonly69 -228 0
74 Korn -229 0
75 Teddy kgb -237 0
76 eltonio -247 0
77 collegegambler -274 0
78 themanowesme -284 0
79 Peebs -303 0
80 GamBleHolic -308 0
81 jam -316 -228 -128 push -100
82 bookiebuster -318 0
83 hockeyguru -335 0
84 The General -360 0
85 STRUT888/FISHHEAD -370 0
86 SLIM- -375 0
87 Green Doberman -395 0
88 jesss -401 0
89 Edko -406 0
90 Texas Triangle -409 0
91 trytrytry -421 0
92 droc -442 0
93 Payback2 -511 0
94 eh? -520 0
95 J Money -522 0
96 Cooper -533 0
97 youngman -545 0
98 briguy -546 0
99 mr Floppy -570 0
100 MadCapper -586 0
101 Oorang -588 -128 -128 push
102 SSI -592 0
103 oilman -602 0
104 Canadian Underdawg -612 0
105 Zen -617 0
106 Blaze -627 0
107 tiger74 -633 0
108 Kiss1 -637 0
109 Bron -646 0
110 Dr. Gambler -648 0
111 pmck -649 0
112 jofl -684 0
113 pete54 -703 0
114 Bloodhound -730 0
115 grover -799 0
116 Faceless -801 200 100 100
117 bobk -804 0
118 dennistheman -823 0
119 gamblman -832 0
120 HABSMAN -895 -100 100 -100 -100
121 RobFunk -956 0
122 60feetheat -1136 0
123 usmcmp -1179 -228 push -128 -100
124 theD -1183 0
125 sakras -1190 0
126 maskoutain -1202 0
127 shawn555 -1222 0
128 Axelp -1274 0
129 chriscol -1300 0
130 Eagles Win Bowl -1329 0
131 driver8 -1361 0
132 No locks here -1368 0
133 Darryl Parsons -1594 -228 -128 push -100
134 Rattler -1645 0
135 BOONE -1658 0
136 green monster -1984 -219 -119 -100
137 Brown sugar -2049 0
138 joel2002 -2291 -319 -100 -100 -119
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***************** Alphabetically *****************

<pre class="ip-ubbcode-code-pre">Rank Player W L T $ YTD Plays

122 60feetheat 7 22 1 -1136 30
19 Allstar 30 23 0 457 53
59 Augustus 32 25 3 -58 60
128 Axelp 12 20 2 -1274 34
40 Big Jesss 1 0 0 100 1
26 Blacklab 23 15 1 234 39
106 Blaze 22 29 3 -627 54
47 blkjk 60 70 10 63 140
114 Bloodhound 4 10 1 -730 15
63 Blown Head Gasket 4 5 0 -128 9
45 blue edwards 4 3 1 80 8
40 BlueBombers2003 1 0 0 100 1
117 bobk 39 43 6 -804 88
82 bookiebuster 17 19 2 -318 38
135 BOONE 56 64 3 -1658 123
98 briguy 14 15 2 -546 31
109 Bron 48 46 7 -646 101
137 Brown sugar 56 80 11 -2049 147
33 bucsfan67 52 40 14 180 106
66 Budman 6 5 1 -151 12
18 Burner 1 47 29 3 485 79
52 BuzzRavanaugh 7 6 2 10 15
104 Canadian Underdawg 23 24 3 -612 50
60 CD155 15 11 3 -60 29
2 chach 86 49 12 2469 147
129 chriscol 39 48 3 -1300 90
57 CINCI_HUGG 6 6 0 -44 12
1 cmogly 71 42 14 2636 127
77 collegegambler 12 13 1 -274 26
96 Cooper 36 45 11 -533 92
3 CrAzY Jivin' IvaN 66 58 13 1796 137
133 Darryl Parsons 60 74 13 -1594 147
118 dennistheman 10 17 2 -823 29
110 Dr. Gambler 12 16 3 -648 31
131 driver8 41 55 8 -1361 104
92 droc 5 8 4 -442 17
130 Eagles Win Bowl 15 23 5 -1329 43
89 Edko 12 14 2 -406 28
32 Egis 87 68 4 184 159
94 eh? 15 17 0 -520 32
76 eltonio 29 31 5 -247 65
15 EveryGamblersDream 33 42 11 627 86
28 EYO's Chadman 3 1 2 207 6
116 Faceless 32 32 9 -801 73
69 G. MONEY 69 67 3 -164 139
13 gambl0r 59 56 9 668 124
80 GamBleHolic 15 11 0 -308 26
119 gamblman 58 41 11 -832 110
11 giorg0s 67 57 11 765 135
40 GottaWinToday 2 1 0 100 3
87 Green Doberman 14 17 5 -395 36
136 green monster 55 75 8 -1984 138
115 grover 36 44 3 -799 83
5 guysmiley 78 59 14 1337 151
120 HABSMAN 72 82 5 -895 159
14 HateTheRiverCard 84 74 10 645 168
83 hockeyguru 4 6 0 -335 10
23 Ice King 10 8 0 302 18
35 iceman2002 64 54 8 151 126
29 Iwannawin 4 2 0 206 6
95 J Money 4 9 1 -522 14
6 Jack of Hearts 68 58 14 1318 140
81 jam 76 68 13 -316 157
88 jesss 5 8 0 -401 13
138 joel2002 56 66 7 -2291 129
112 jofl 18 28 4 -684 50
108 Kiss1 37 39 2 -637 78
74 Korn 48 43 3 -229 94
56 Kris1 33 24 4 -32 61
61 lander 1 2 0 -80 3
20 laxer 15 9 0 390 24
51 LogansRun 51 54 4 36 109
100 MadCapper 21 36 6 -586 63
10 manly 60 44 12 789 116
126 maskoutain 25 31 3 -1202 59
54 mdrams 3 3 1 2 7
44 MPriorCanKu 10 8 1 83 19
99 mr Floppy 10 16 0 -570 26
72 mr. obvious 8 8 1 -187 17
58 mrgas41 37 37 8 -51 82
4 MT_Pockets 56 31 0 1503 87
21 neilm 30 25 9 364 64
65 nidman 6 7 0 -148 13
17 No Cred 16 10 1 527 27
132 No locks here 46 55 3 -1368 104
103 oilman 4 10 2 -602 16
101 Oorang 58 54 15 -588 127
34 Oracle 81 57 4 177 142
31 padres12 17 14 3 187 34
37 Patrick McIrish 3 2 0 113 5
93 Payback2 31 31 5 -511 67
79 Peebs 1 4 1 -303 6
113 pete54 32 33 4 -703 69
73 playersonly69 43 39 8 -228 90
111 pmck 28 38 8 -649 74
39 raiders72001 2 1 0 102 3
134 Rattler 51 69 12 -1645 132
121 RobFunk 26 51 8 -956 85
66 Rosemary 24 20 3 -151 47
55 RPM 1 1 1 0 3
64 Rude 27 26 8 -137 61
125 sakras 63 73 9 -1190 145
53 ScoobySnacks 1 1 0 5 2
7 scripter 70 85 9 934 164
127 shawn555 17 29 2 -1222 48
36 sick gambler 54 46 10 129 110
68 sidingman 5 4 0 -158 9
8 Silver Pegasus 23 11 1 907 35
86 SLIM- 6 10 3 -375 19
46 SLUGGO 34 36 2 69 72
24 smoothie 15 13 3 300 31
16 spidermonkey 37 37 8 570 82
48 sportsbet 9 8 3 49 20
102 SSI 43 47 10 -592 100
85 STRUT888/FISHHEAD 2 5 1 -370 8
75 Teddy kgb 2 4 0 -237 6
90 Texas Triangle 14 14 0 -409 28
84 The General 4 7 0 -360 11
22 The MD Kid 38 36 9 353 83
62 The Quiet Man 0 1 1 -100 2
124 theD 18 28 3 -1183 49
78 themanowesme 8 10 1 -284 19
30 ThreeUnits 73 57 6 193 136
49 Thunder 3 2 0 40 5
107 tiger74 2 7 0 -633 9
50 TIME TO MAKE $$$ 15 12 0 38 27
25 tootired 18 18 4 297 40
91 trytrytry 1 5 0 -421 6
12 Uncle Moneybags 31 38 4 759 73
123 usmcmp 27 36 7 -1179 70
27 vegasguy39 7 4 2 222 13
71 vinividivinci 2 3 0 -184 5
70 vycka 23 29 4 -174 56
38 wagara 4 3 2 110 9
40 waymac 1 0 1 100 2
9 weebs 83 60 6 854 149
97 youngman 2 6 1 -545 9
105 Zen 23 30 6 -617 59
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[JOH]

Yesterday...

Burner 1
posted January 01, 2004 01:10 PM
Stl. -.5 129 <---- bad line - no action
Tor ML -119

weebs
posted January 01, 2004 06:15 PM
Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109 <---- bad line - no action
Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109 <---- bad line - no action
BOS/TOR UNDER 5.5 -132

 

[weebs]

That's horseshit. Bad line?!!! If I play Boston twice, what the hell do you think I'm playing? Oklahoma over LSU?

I've said it before... guys participating in contests should not be scoring it. A-G-E-N-D-A.

 

[TheMDKid]

Weebs,

Stop your whining! The bad line policy has been like that since day 1. If you type in the incorrect line, the scorer cannot be expected to read your mind. Posters will always say they OBVIOUSLY meant this or they OBVIOUSLY meant that. Too bad - if you fail to check your post for errors you deserve to miss out.

As far as scorers participating in contests, just about every RX contest has them. If you don't like the chance at FREE money, don't PLAY!! If you don't trust his scoring, then offer to check his numbers. My guess is you'll quickly tire of it after finding out how much time he puts into it.

Yes, contests would be better if scorers didn't participate, but if a non-participating scorer can't be found (and apparently one wasn't found for this one), then the only other alternative is having no contest. I'll take a contest with a participating scorer over no contest at all thank you.

 

[gambl0r]

Yeah, what MD Kid said.

What's wrong with taking responsibility for your picks? Here's a hint: make your picks accurate so that Jack can grade them accurately. What a concept! You only have to worry about 1-3 picks, Jack has to grade 60-70-80 picks a day.

You owe Jack an apology, dickhead.

 

[cmogly]

Too funny.

I agree the scoring is a little too 'tight'. Give the guy his 200 points. He played Boston twice so it IS obvious what he was playing.

Are you telling me that if I type "Buffalo -11", omitting the 2 at the end, you're not going to give me credit? Give me a break.

We appreciate the scoring, no question. I'm actually a little concerned Jack is spending too much time with the Top 10 lists, lol. But let's lighten up a little. As long as it's fair, no worries. I suggested we count that day when the Rx was down and maybe a third of the guys got their picks in, even though I lost over 300.

By the same token, I feel ripped off by that Leafs game when i was a minute late posting (according to the Rx clock) and got screwed for 200, even though the game hadn't started. Turns out I probably won't need those points against you lads, lol.

Come get the leader boys.

 

[JOH]

It's not like this was a special situation, weebs. Similar posts to yours have been made thoughout the season, and they were ALL graded 'no action'. Why would I treat this latest one any different? Then someone else would complain of being slighted. To illustrate, check out these links below and you'll see what I mean. As a matter of fact, you'll find, as I'm sure you'll remember, that this is not the first time this has happened to you. You're probably the LAST one that should have a complaint.

http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=428090432&m=70610548&r=90610548#90610548

http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=428090432&m=83510238&r=54510238#54510238

http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=428090432&m=64310447&r=84310447#84310447

http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=428090432&m=37210686&r=28210686#28210686

http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=428090432&m=50310588&r=21310588#21310588

http://therxforum.com/6/ubb.x?a=tpc&s=100090022&f=428090432&m=55710058&r=26710058#26710058


Btw, I welcome ANYBODY to oversee my grading in this contest and speak up if you see any errors. As a matter of fact, I'd prefer it. However, when it comes to challenging the rules which are cut and dry, I don't see any need for confrontation.

 

[weebs]

jack, the examples you give are for when someone does this... "Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109"... whereby you obviously can't tell if they were playing the money line or puck line.

if i do this...
Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109
Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109

is it not obvious i'm playing both? i don't see what the problem is. MdKid... ya, you'd need a mindreader to figure that out.

i never noticed that cancelled play when i had made a correction with a second post instead of editing. in fairness, take off the 242 for that and add the 209 from yesterday. same logic, letting me get away with a loss because i made a2nd post instead of editing is crazy.

happy gamblor? dickhead.

 

[weebs]

by the way... i have seen numerous posts scored when a game goes at 7:35 and the post is at 7:35.

wouldn't be allowed at a book.

if the deadline is 7:35 you have to be in by 7:34:59.

if we're going to be anal about things.

 

[JOH]

cmogly,

How much time do you spend LOOKING at those Top 10 lists every day? You know, the ones where you've been at the top of recently. Bet you enjoy seeing THAT, huh? I find it humorous that you are concerned I'm spending TOO MUCH time with something that I bet YOU are getting a little kick out of yourself. Apparently, you feel it's affecting how I'm scoring the contest. You're right, the scoring 'IS' tight. The scoring 'HAS BEEN' tight. The scoring 'WILL CONTINUE' to be tight. There is no reason why anyone should have a problem posting the EXACT line that is posted. There should be no room for compromise here. Sticking with a consistent course of action can only breed fairness for all, in my opinion.

Your complaint about the late posting is getting old. The Rx clock has ALWAYS been mechanism used to determine the deadline and WILL CONTINUE to be. I really don't want to hear how "well I'm sitting right here watching and the game hasn't started yet"...

and weebs,

Yes, a play made at 7:35 for a 7:35 game is allowed. Why would you even bring it up? Once again, if you check the rules for THIS contest, it states for all to see...

PICKS MUST BE POSTED BY NO LATER THAN THE POSTED START TIME. EXAMPLE... POSTED GAME TIME IS 12:00PM, post made at 12:01PM DOES NOT COUNT.

As far as your double post is concerned:

Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109
Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109

There is nothing obvious here. Each play is treated separately and each post is ambiguous. I will not pretend to guess what you're playing in either one, that's not my job. The ruling is 'no action'. My suggestion is if you still disagree with the ruling, have The General (or some other Rx MOD) come in and arbitrate.

 

[gambl0r]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by weebs:
by the way... i have seen numerous posts scored when a game goes at 7:35 and the post is at 7:35.

wouldn't be allowed at a book.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

But "Boston Bruins +0.5 -128 +109" would be? lol, you're dense.

Jack, you're doing a great job.