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USING FAKE LINES TO CREATE WINNERS AT PREGAME.COM
by RICHARD NICHOLS
Pregame.com, led by R.J. Bell, has become one of the sleaziest sports handicapping services in the country. That is not an easy accomplishment; most handicapping services are parasites, promising risk-free riches to desperate degenerates.


RJ Bell of Pregame.com


Pregame.com is a little more subtle than that. They proudly post each handicapper’s plays, claiming transparency unseen before in Toutland. A quick glance at those listed plays, however, shows how Pregame creates winners out of losers thanks to creative lineshopping.
Take Pregame handicapper Fezzik. Fezzik is one of the more well-known touts in the country. His gift of gab and self-promotion make him a popular radio guest, a go-to person when it comes to NFL handicapping.


There is one problem, however. He doesn’t win. Tracked for years by credible third-parties, Fezzik has shown himself to be a long-term loser.


So desperate measures are needed to maintain the “winner” illusion. This is where Pregame’s creative lineshopping wields its results, using Bodog.com as its hammer.


Bodog.com is one of the most notorious sportsbooks in the world today. They aren’t interested in smart bettors. They want the so-called square action, and close or limit the accounts of anyone who has shown themselves to have some handicapping ability.


Bodog has two sets of lines. One line tends to follow the consensus lines of bigger, sharper shops. This is the line they give their sharper bettors. The second line is given to their square bettors. This line is heavily shaded to the public side. Bodog inflates the line on public sides, making its customers pay extra for the privilege of betting those teams.


Pregame.com uses these dual lines to pump up its losing handicappers’ record. When the consensus line on a game is +1.5, but Bodog is dealing +3 to its square customer base, Pregame.com takes advantage and uses the +3 for grading purposes.


On Sunday, this scheme got some heavy action from the Pregame crew. Fezzik liked the Miami Dolphins, and released the pick on Friday. The consensus line at the time was Miami +3 -125; bettors had been betting Miami all week and the line was gradually dropping. However, Bodog was dealing Miami +3.5 on one of its dual lines, making square bettors pay extra for the right to take Aaron Rogers and the Green Bay Packers.


Most touts, credible or not, would use the consensus +3 -125 line for recordkeeping purposes. Fezzik, however, chose to use Bodog’s square line. Despite knowing most of his customers couldn’t get +3.5 on Miami, Fezzik listed Miami +3.5 on his play list.


The extra half point came in handy. Green Bay scored a last second touchdown to pull out a 27-24 victory. Fezzik claimed victory, his only win of the day. Fezzik lost his other three plays yesterday, despite using Bodog’s inflated lines in two of the three plays.


Pregame specializes in inflating its handicapper’s records using Bodog lines. Teddy Covers was also able to steal a win using Bodog’s +3.5 line on Miami. As was Spartan. Other handicappers, waiting until the consensus line had moved down to Miami +1.5, were able get a push by using Bodog’s +3.


For R.J. Bell and Pregame.com, these lineshopping games are routine and a necessary evil. Losing touts need every edge they can get. And Pregame.com has a lot of losers on their handicapper list. Just four of Pregame.com’s 25 handicappers were in positive territory on Sunday. That number includes Teddy Covers who had a winning day only because he stole a winner using Bodog’s line on Miami.


A sucker is born every minute, a wise man once said. Pregame.com is banking on those suckers.
 
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That's just the way YOU PEOPLE operate. Everyone of them slim balls have something to stick it to the sheep. One thing all touts have in common is getting as much money possible from the sheep anyway possible.
 

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A lot of places had Miami +3.5. The problem with the majority of touts is transparency. I admit I do purchase tout plays. There are only a very small amount of handicappers or services I do trust. Those services not only list all their plays but post the time they released the play but the shop as well. If I have an issue on a line I can go and verify what the line was at the shop they listed.

Problem is if they put out a game say on Thursday/Friday and I wait until Sunday to purchase, then the line likely does change. I don't fault the tout for that, they released it, put it up for sale then and I chose to wait.

Touts from pregame are notorious for what was listed in the OP thread and I have always stayed clear from them.

Not all touts are bad and those are the ones that are typically not in the mainstream or not a household name like Root, Feist, Big Al etc. Everyone knows them because of the 80's tv infomercials.
 

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I believe Fezzik shops for the best line.
Just because he goes through the trouble of placing his bet on the best available line for his side does not make him a scammer.
I dont understand what the issue is.

If he was touting his record on lines that don't exist that would be another issue.

The best available line is not a fake line.
 

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I by no means am a fan of Pregame but there is a time stamp on cappers released plays.
3 1/2 was available on Miami midweek. If a capper feels the line has moved too much he should take it down which Fezzik sometimes does.
 

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One tout bashing another tout. Shocking.
 

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I've seen Pre-game use stale lines before, I'm not talking about line shopping either. I'm taking about time stamping a play on thursday quoting they got it from 5dimes, though that was long gone the day before at 5dimes The thing about pre-game is they pretend they're different from other touts but they're really just the same. They use the same short term record marketing strategy's. But honestly that's their market, so can you really blame them. Most people who buy picks are degenerates that are in a hole. They don't want to see long term records, they want to see short term riches.
 

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yes its true the pick buyers are degenerates. look at this service play forum here for example, you have guys coming in asking for feists play or who is paul leiner on?
who gives a shit! are you seriously looking for their plays to follow?
if so thats pathetic
 

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I believe Fezzik shops for the best line.
Just because he goes through the trouble of placing his bet on the best available line for his side does not make him a scammer.
I dont understand what the issue is.

If he was touting his record on lines that don't exist that would be another issue.

The best available line is not a fake line.


Hahaha yeah use a Wednesday line for a Friday post got to shop for the best lline even if it's unavailable :ohno:
 

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As far as fez's record is concerned i know for a fact that no one knows how many and which teams hes on because he bets volume . He will bet a game he has no interest in because he knows the line will move in a certain direction thru a key number and he will come back on the other side . As far as he is a loser , when i see him put his house up for sale then i will believe hes a loser .
 

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As far as fez's record is concerned i know for a fact that no one knows how many and which teams hes on because he bets volume . He will bet a game he has no interest in because he knows the line will move in a certain direction thru a key number and he will come back on the other side . As far as he is a loser , when i see him put his house up for sale then i will believe hes a loser .

I'm confused here, didn't you start this thread? In the original post you're calling pre-game sleazy, in this post you seem to be praising their top capper.

As long as people are willing to pay for his picks, he will have money. And as long as he targets new subscribers with short term results, the money will flow in. How much money he makes has nothing to do with whether or not his long term record is a winning record.
 

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I'm confused here, didn't you start this thread? In the original post you're calling pre-game sleazy, in this post you seem to be praising their top capper.

As long as people are willing to pay for his picks, he will have money. And as long as he targets new subscribers with short term results, the money will flow in. How much money he makes has nothing to do with whether or not his long term record is a winning record.

Rj is sleazy...I just know what Fezzik does. Plays a lot of middles...
 

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