USC Trojans most underachieving team in history

[Art_Vandalay]

Those of you who follow college football closely know that USC has most likely had the most talented and deepest teams in college football history. They get the No. 1 player at every position every year. They rank these kids out of HS now with no ranking, 1 star, 2, star, 3, star, 4 and 5 stars (only a few players get it each year). SC had started 14 five star players this year and have another 13 on the bench. Ucla has exactly ZERO five star players.

There is no doubt in my mind that USC would beat the hell out of FL, OK, Texas or anybody else in one game. Las Vegas put the spread out for USC vs. everybody and SC was a healthy favorite even vs. FL and OK. BTW, it was 3 to FL. I think SC would roll them all.

Funny thing is those losers get the crap beat out of them every year by an inferior team that costs them the title. They don't deserve to play for it but they are the best. What a bunch of losers.

 

[t3a]

USC lost to Oregon St.
Utah beat Oregon St.

case closed

Utah beat Alabama and gets to be ranked in the Top 5, hopefully in front of USC
Florida beats Alabama and gets to play for the National Championship

 

[TheShotDoctor]

Point Of This Thread?

?--:think2:--?

 

[nd2000]

The only team in the nation that would have a prayer versus a motivated USC team would be Florida.

Fortunately, the national championship has to be earned and not awarded to the most talented team every year.

 

[hippieki11er]

Those of you who follow college football closely know that USC has most likely had the most talented and deepest teams in college football history. They get the No. 1 player at every position every year. They rank these kids out of HS now with no ranking, 1 star, 2, star, 3, star, 4 and 5 stars (only a few players get it each year). SC had started 14 five star players this year and have another 13 on the bench. Ucla has exactly ZERO five star players.

There is no doubt in my mind that USC would beat the hell out of FL, OK, Texas or anybody else in one game. Las Vegas put the spread out for USC vs. everybody and SC was a healthy favorite even vs. FL and OK. BTW, it was 3 to FL. I think SC would roll them all.

Funny thing is those losers get the crap beat out of them every year by an inferior team that costs them the title. They don't deserve to play for it but they are the best. What a bunch of losers.

I'm a huge 'SC fan and don't take any offense to this post, but the critical point you fail to recognize here is that the very thing that makes 'SC great (recruiting) is also the same thing that kills them should they slip-up. Simply put, the more talent 'SC gets, the less the rest of the Pac-10 has to choose from, and that ultimately hurts 'SC.

In the meantime, take solace in the fact that it'll be an absolute MIRACLE if 'SC finishes with anything less than 2 losses next year.

Also, just curious, do you go to UCLA by chance? I see you're in San Clemente..

 

[Art_Vandalay]

USC lost to Oregon St.
Utah beat Oregon St.

case closed

Utah beat Alabama and gets to be ranked in the Top 5, hopefully in front of USC
Florida beats Alabama and gets to play for the National Championship

What case are you talking about? are you telling me if Utah and USC played one game to decide it all you'd bet Utah? You are a fool if that is what you are saying. Utah just got to play a team that lost its national title 4 weeks earlier. Utah had a huge mental edge in that game.

SC is a joke because they lose to a bad team every year costing them their shot but there is a reason Vegas had SC a 3 pt favorite over Fl. An 11 point fav over Utah. A 6 pt fav over Oklahoma. They are easily the best team in America but they do not deserve a shot with this system. They lost to an inferior team.

 

[Addict101]

What case are you talking about? are you telling me if Utah and USC played one game to decide it all you'd bet Utah? You are a fool if that is what you are saying. Utah just got to play a team that lost its national title 4 weeks earlier. Utah had a huge mental edge in that game.

SC is a joke because they lose to a bad team every year costing them their shot but there is a reason Vegas had SC a 3 pt favorite over Fl. An 11 point fav over Utah. A 6 pt fav over Oklahoma. They are easily the best team in America but they do not deserve a shot with this system. They lost to an inferior team.

Totally agree that taking Utah straight up over USC would be an idiotic bet, but to say Oregon State is a 'bad team' isn't right at all. They've finished with anywhere from 8-10 wins the past few years and have now won 5 bowl games in a row against multiple conferences. The Beavs are no joke with Mike Riley as the HC.

 

[Art_Vandalay]

I'm a huge 'SC fan and don't take any offense to this post, but the critical point you fail to recognize here is that the very thing that makes 'SC great (recruiting) is also the same thing that kills them should they slip-up. Simply put, the more talent 'SC gets, the less the rest of the Pac-10 has to choose from, and that ultimately hurts 'SC.

In the meantime, take solace in the fact that it'll be an absolute MIRACLE if 'SC finishes with anything less than 2 losses next year.

Also, just curious, do you go to UCLA by chance? I see you're in San Clemente..

No. I actually couldn't get into Ucla so I went the J/C route and ended up starting a biz and never finished college. Opportunity cost my friend. In the 4th grade I read a book about Jackie Robinson and became a Bruin. Threw my SC shirt away the next day. Bad decision I guess as lately SC's been dominating but I am one Bruin that appreciates USC football and am glad they are on top. WIthout SC, Ucla would just be another bad team. WIth SC, Ucla is a bad team that has a chance each year to knock you out of the BCS Title game like two years ago. Sitting at the 50 for that one.

ANyway, I hope you guys stay on top and Ucla can get enough talent to give you a real game each year. Good luck next year against Ohio St. I think USC has a chance to run the table again although the rest of the Pac 10 is getting better so maybe it's tougher. Even Notre Dame has a chance to be a decent team so your schedule is getting tougher. The last few years SC needed to take advantage of everybody being down (Ucla and ND have been very very bad for years now). Seems like its been a pretty easy road for SC lately. Next year they'll have a challenge and USC is their best when they feel challenged so the perception that SC might only win 9 or 10 next year I bet motivates you guys enough where you have a shot at winning it all again.

Good luck in all the games except when you play us.

Art

- yes, i live in San Clemente. Pretty nice place to live.

 

[hippieki11er]

No. I actually couldn't get into Ucla so I went the J/C route and ended up starting a biz and never finished college. Opportunity cost my friend.

Understood, not a bad route at all.

In the 4th grade I read a book about Jackie Robinson and became a Bruin. Threw my SC shirt away the next day.

Good reasoning.

Bad decision I guess as lately SC's been dominating but I am one Bruin that appreciates USC football and am glad they are on top.

Yeah, I got that distinct feeling from your first post. It wasn't really hatred that I sensed from you where 'SC is concerned, rather disappointment in that they couldn't be doing more with what they have.

WIthout SC, Ucla would just be another bad team. WIth SC, Ucla is a bad team that has a chance each year to knock you out of the BCS Title game like two years ago. Sitting at the 50 for that one.

ANyway, I hope you guys stay on top and Ucla can get enough talent to give you a real game each year.

I hope so too. Most 'SC fans don't understand that we're essentially victims of our own success when it comes to recruiting. That really showed itself to be true this year as 'SC suddenly had zero room for error in terms of public perception and human votes.

Good luck next year against Ohio St. I think USC has a chance to run the table again although the rest of the Pac 10 is getting better so maybe it's tougher.

If 'SC finishes with 1 loss next year, they'll be in the NC game.

Road games include: Ohio State, Cal, Oregon, ASU, Notre Dame

The last few years SC needed to take advantage of everybody being down (Ucla and ND have been very very bad for years now).

Correct. That's why I'll always remember this year as being the biggest waste ever for 'SC.

Seems like its been a pretty easy road for SC lately. Next year they'll have a challenge and USC is their best when they feel challenged so the perception that SC might only win 9 or 10 next year I bet motivates you guys enough where you have a shot at winning it all again.

Good luck in all the games except when you play us.

Art

- yes, i live in San Clemente. Pretty nice place to live.

You too. Hopefully Slick Rick will get the Bruins back in contention again, it's the best for all involved.

 

[guitarjosh]

Those of you who follow college football closely know that USC has most likely had the most talented and deepest teams in college football history. They get the No. 1 player at every position every year. They rank these kids out of HS now with no ranking, 1 star, 2, star, 3, star, 4 and 5 stars (only a few players get it each year). SC had started 14 five star players this year and have another 13 on the bench. Ucla has exactly ZERO five star players.

There is no doubt in my mind that USC would beat the hell out of FL, OK, Texas or anybody else in one game. Las Vegas put the spread out for USC vs. everybody and SC was a healthy favorite even vs. FL and OK. BTW, it was 3 to FL. I think SC would roll them all.

Funny thing is those losers get the crap beat out of them every year by an inferior team that costs them the title. They don't deserve to play for it but they are the best. What a bunch of losers.

Most teams lose to an inferior team every year. There have only been a few teams in the past decade not to.

 

[Art_Vandalay]

Most teams lose to an inferior team every year. There have only been a few teams in the past decade not to.

4 years ago: USC was dominating Texas. Reggie decided to pitch the ball 25 yards across field to an OL. Ball got lost, gives Texas momentum and they pulled off a great comeback. One of best games ever.

3 years ago: USC gets beat by UCLA as a 14 point favorite in a play in game to the BCS Title vs. Ohio St (who lost by 100000 to LSU).

2 years ago: USC lost to Stanford as a 41 point favorite at home. That cost USC their spot in the title game and rightfully so.

This year: USC lost to a pretty good Oregon St team who SC was favored by 22. I don't blame them for this but if SC came to play they win this game 10 times out of 10.


The fact is USC has had a very easy road the last 4 years. They haven't played any good team except for Oregon with Dixon last year which they lost. SC needs to take advantage of what they were given because it sucks having to watch a stupid NC game like OK vs. FL. The over under is 70 something. What a joke for two 'championship' teams. No defense at all. Watch these two light up the scoreboard. SC would F either up although the FL vs. USC is what I think we all deserved to see and wanted to see. Has OK ever won a Bowl game? Even BOise kicked their azz in what may have been the greatest college football game of all time.

Art

 

[guitarjosh]

4 years ago: USC was dominating Texas. Reggie decided to pitch the ball 25 yards across field to an OL. Ball got lost, gives Texas momentum and they pulled off a great comeback. One of best games ever.

3 years ago: USC gets beat by UCLA as a 14 point favorite in a play in game to the BCS Title vs. Ohio St (who lost by 100000 to LSU).

2 years ago: USC lost to Stanford as a 41 point favorite at home. That cost USC their spot in the title game and rightfully so.

This year: USC lost to a pretty good Oregon St team who SC was favored by 22. I don't blame them for this but if SC came to play they win this game 10 times out of 10.


The fact is USC has had a very easy road the last 4 years. They haven't played any good team except for Oregon with Dixon last year which they lost. SC needs to take advantage of what they were given because it sucks having to watch a stupid NC game like OK vs. FL. The over under is 70 something. What a joke for two 'championship' teams. No defense at all. Watch these two light up the scoreboard. SC would F either up although the FL vs. USC is what I think we all deserved to see and wanted to see. Has OK ever won a Bowl game? Even BOise kicked their azz in what may have been the greatest college football game of all time.

Art

USC wasn't dominating Texas at all, the play you cited was in the first half and Texas had the lead at halftime.

I'll give you the UCLA game, they chocked big time there.

The loss to Stanford was due to Booty having a broken finger on his throwing hand. No one knew until after the game was over. BTW, he threw 4 ints in the 2nd half which cost them the game.

The only team who came to play every game in 2008 was Utah. OSU could be 11-2, maybe even 12-1 if the scheduled like the other BCS conferences do. This will be the 3rd year in a row they will finish in the top 25.

 

[3peet]

?--:think2:--?

$100 says its Whormoan!!!!!!!

 

[MSUSpartans]

Has OK ever won a Bowl game? Even BOise kicked their azz in what may have been the greatest college football game of all time.

Art

Kicked their ass? Hardly. Boise needed a miracle and a half to win that game. You wont get any arguments from me about one of the greatest. Entertaining to the end. And yes, OU has won many bowl games, including their BCS NC in 2000, which everyone seems to forget about because of short attention spans.

I do agree about USC, they have def made the case time and time again, but they only do it to themselves every year.

 

[ChuckRoast]

Art....go back to Wildwestsports.com football and politics board you putz.

 

[gmoney72]

4 years ago: USC was dominating Texas. Reggie decided to pitch the ball 25 yards across field to an OL. Ball got lost, gives Texas momentum and they pulled off a great comeback. One of best games ever.

3 years ago: USC gets beat by UCLA as a 14 point favorite in a play in game to the BCS Title vs. Ohio St (who lost by 100000 to LSU).

2 years ago: USC lost to Stanford as a 41 point favorite at home. That cost USC their spot in the title game and rightfully so.

This year: USC lost to a pretty good Oregon St team who SC was favored by 22. I don't blame them for this but if SC came to play they win this game 10 times out of 10.


The fact is USC has had a very easy road the last 4 years. They haven't played any good team except for Oregon with Dixon last year which they lost. SC needs to take advantage of what they were given because it sucks having to watch a stupid NC game like OK vs. FL. The over under is 70 something. What a joke for two 'championship' teams. No defense at all. Watch these two light up the scoreboard. SC would F either up although the FL vs. USC is what I think we all deserved to see and wanted to see. Has OK ever won a Bowl game? Even BOise kicked their azz in what may have been the greatest college football game of all time.

Art

Did you say the O/U is 70 something and that that is a joke for two 'championship' teams. Just making sure I read that correctly. What was the total for the USC/Texas Championship game. Wasn't that 77 or something like that!!!! :nohead:
I guess that was a joke for that championship game too!!!! BTW the Florida O/U is droping and now in the high 60's

 

[UoweDucks]

The P10 is going to be significantly stronger next yr as there will be 8 starters returning at QB. While USC will again be the favorite to win the conference I am of the opinion that there is no shot in hell they go through the season unscathed. While there is a chance that Sanchez leaves, even if he doesn't that defense is going to be much less potent than this years squad. USC losing both offensive and defensive coordinators this year as well...

Their two toughest conf opponents are on the road this year @ CAL and @ UO. I would expect a split or lose both.

 

[Art_Vandalay]

Art....go back to Wildwestsports.com football and politics board you putz.

LOL Chuk. Hey, there are a few smart guys on this board. Here is an endorsement of the board. Since I've been posting (have to check my book with when I first posted about two weeks ago) but I still don't have one negative day betting. The worst day I bet over $500 on Sunday and somehow finished exactly even. Did nothing late to even it out.

Just on a roll right now.

Last night, I teased Texas to -2 like an idiot and at halftime I just figured Ohio St would lose so I bet Ohio St plus 6.5 at the half. That made Ohio St. plus 3 in the game and middled the bet. Lucky lately but a few guys have given me great games to go with my games.

 

[Art_Vandalay]

The P10 is going to be significantly stronger next yr as there will be 8 starters returning at QB. While USC will again be the favorite to win the conference I am of the opinion that there is no shot in hell they go through the season unscathed. While there is a chance that Sanchez leaves, even if he doesn't that defense is going to be much less potent than this years squad. USC losing both offensive and defensive coordinators this year as well...

Their two toughest conf opponents are on the road this year @ CAL and @ UO. I would expect a split or lose both.

USC defense: Next year they lose a lot at LB but don't forget SC WILL start 4 five star LBers (More than anybody in country). SC's DL will be insane and the strength of the D. Better than this year. When your DL is bigtime the rest of the D is better by default.

I hope SC loses Mark S because I'll get great odds to betting on SC in games and prop bets for them to win the BCS title.

 

[Art_Vandalay]

USC wasn't dominating Texas at all, the play you cited was in the first half and Texas had the lead at halftime.

I'll give you the UCLA game, they chocked big time there.

The loss to Stanford was due to Booty having a broken finger on his throwing hand. No one knew until after the game was over. BTW, he threw 4 ints in the 2nd half which cost them the game.

The only team who came to play every game in 2008 was Utah. OSU could be 11-2, maybe even 12-1 if the scheduled like the other BCS conferences do. This will be the 3rd year in a row they will finish in the top 25.

USC was more than dominating Texas. Re-watch the game. USC was up 10-0 and driving with ease. Reggie had just won the Heisman and wanted to show off. Instead of a certain 17-0 lead late in the 1st quarter Texas got some 'hope' and some 'momentum.'

Try watching that first quarter sometimes. Your opinion will change. USC looked like they were playing a bunch of women. I'd bet my house USC wins by at least 7 if Reggie doesn't pull that stunt. Glad Reggie made a fool of himself but that was another route if Reggie is a team guy.