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WASHINGTON (AFP) - US troops, stationed both abroad and in the US, have donated more money to Democrat Barack Obama than to decorated war hero Republican John McCain, a study published Thursday showed.

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The study by the Center for Responsive Politics, a non-partisan research group, showed that by the end of June, Obama had received six times more from soldiers stationed abroad than Vietnam war veteran McCain, who comes from a prestigious military family.

Even McCain's former rival for the Republican nomination, Ron Paul, who opposed the Iraq war, had managed to garner more funds.

Obama had received some 60,642 dollars in donations from soldiers stationed abroad, while McCain had just 10,665 dollars, the study said.

Paul, who failed early in the Republican primaries to attract as much support as McCain, was given some 45,512 dollars for his campaign.

Across all troops, Obama's campaign also attracted more funding than his rivals, bringing in some 335,000 dollars compared to 280,000 for McCain. Only in the Marine Corps is McCain leading Obama, by some 4,000 dollars.

"That's shocking," Aaron Belkin, a professor of political science at the University of California who studies the military, told the center.

"The academic debate is between some who say that junior enlisted ranks lean slightly Republican and some who say it's about equal, but no one would point to six-to-one" in Democrats' favor.

"That represents a tremendous shift from 2000, when the military vote almost certainly was decisive in Florida and elsewhere, and leaned heavily towards the Republicans."

But Jason Dempsey, a former professor at the West Point military academy, said that the number of individual donations, just 323, was too small to draw any conclusions.

"If, on a bad day, a guy gets that letter that says (his tour has been extended) from 12 to 15 months, that could spur a quick donation and expression of anger," he said. "Donating helps members of the military express their political views privately."

Obama has said that if elected to the White House he would withdraw most troops from Iraq within 16 months. McCain, who supports the war, says the US needs to remain on the ground until their work is done and has resisted setting any timetable for a pullout.

The center also stressed that it had only totaled up donations of 200 dollars or more, which meant the study was probably more reflective of thinking among ranking officers.
 

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of course they want to come home
 

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323 votes in a non-scientific poll. Maybe the people who want the war to end, and I'm not judging them here, are more inclined to donate. maybe

Anyhow, I'll take action on who gets the larger military support on election day.

Who's in?
 

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of course they want to come home


st:They want to come home AND NOT HAVE TO GO BACK.



We all know how the military will 'lean' in November,cmon.

This is misinformation at its finest....with plenty of sheep in tow.

Do you guys honestly believe this study realistically portrays how the vote will go?
 

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st:They want to come home AND NOT HAVE TO GO BACK.



We all know how the military will 'lean' in November,cmon.

This is misinformation at its finest....with plenty of sheep in tow.

Do you guys honestly believe this study realistically portrays how the vote will go?
no......but i am right they want to come home
 

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no......but i am right they want to come home

Lets see,hot sweaty shithole,wearing 80 lbs of gear 12-16 hrs /day where they could get blown up or sitting in the pool,drinking beer looking at thier girls tits falling out of a bikini top?

Of course they want to come home,but IMHO most know its not time to go home yet.Most know that that time is soon tho,relatively speaking.Most dont want to lose the momentum theyve strived to construct.I find it easy to beleive most 'troops overseas' find Obamas (original-pre flop) plans silly and uninformed and ignorant.

Never said you were wrong BTW,just clarifying.
 

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By following the McCain plan (finish the job), the war will be won and we won't have to fight another war in Iraq -- ever.

By following Obama plan (surrender), there will be a third Iraq war. Every gain we've made will be lost.

Strange, for some reason throughout history, almost every anti-war policy resulted in...WAR on an unimaginable scale.

You were given the choice between war and dishonor. You chose dishonor and now you will have war.

-- Sir Winston Churchill after Neville Chamberlain declared "peace in our time."

If you love bloodshed and wish for tens of thousands of Americans to be slaughtered in more terror attacks and endless war, vote for the Hope Express.

If on the other hand you want Churchillian and Reagan'esque resolve and everlasting peace, John McCain is your man. :103631605
 

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By following the McCain plan, the war will be won and we won't have to go back.

By following Obama plan whereby we surrender, there will be a third war because the troops will have to go back and fight all over again. Every gain we've made will have been lost.

Strange, for some reason throughout history, almost every anti-war policy resulted in...WAR...



If you love bloodshed and wish for tens of thousands of slaughtered Americans in more terror attacks and endless war, a a far left neophyte like Obama, vote for the Hope Express.

If on the other hand you want Churchillian and Reagan'esque resolve, John McCain is your man. :103631605

McCain is not my man Joe,sorry.

I cannot vote for him dude.

I think hes a good man but too sketchy for me.Theres a handful of of issues I have with him that I cannot reconcile just for the sake of his economic and foreign policies, that I mainly agree with.
 

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the war will never be won. you are a fool if you think it can be.
 

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McCain is not my man Joe,sorry.

I cannot vote for him dude.

I think hes a good man but too sketchy for me.Theres a handful of of issues I have with him that I cannot reconcile just for the sake of his economic and foreign policies, that I mainly agree with.

He's not my man, either.

However with Jimmy Carter on the other side, he's our only choice.

I'm not worried about you, BASE -- I'm not. Lots of time for a man of your character to come around and do the right thing.

With a hybrid of Jimmy Carter, Joseph Stalin, Al Sharpton, Dennis Kucinich staring standing on the other side, when the chips are down, you of all people will put your country ahead of your own personal wish list.

Thank you for your service.

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He's not my man, either.

However with Jimmy Carter on the other side, he's our only choice.

I'm not worried about you, BASE -- I'm not. Lots of time for a man of your character to come around and do the right thing.

When the chips are down, you of all people will put your country ahead of your own personal wish list.

Thank you for your service.

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Joe C-Im from Mass anyway-its a forgone conclusion how the electorate will vote.I cant see casting a symbolic vote just to support the 'party',for a guy who has some serious flaws.Sure his flaws pale in comparison to that of Barry O but Im not going to be goaded into taking the lesser of two evils.This election the chips will fall where they fall,without my vote.

Im writing in my choice this year.Throwing it away even tho Ive probably mocked some folks in the past over the same issue.I will not be voting for some go nowhere third party guy or some random independent tho.

If Obama wins Ill eat my shit just like all of the guys who voted for him are going to have to.If McCain wins the shit will be slightly tastier and a little less 'fragrant'.
 

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im referring to iraq. they have a stronger mentality and we are outnumbered. no way they will let the US take them down. lost fight from the beginning

lol...you do follow current events right?

Who is they, the Sadr 'army' now sidelined in leiu of politcal facesaving after a severe asskicking by the IA/US or AQI whos just about been wiped out by the very folks that they wished to ally with (Sunnis) and the US?

Homestretch for victory is at hand.

Youll need to find a new point of reference soon.
 

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Joe C-Im from Mass anyway-its a forgone conclusion how the electorate will vote.I cant see casting a symbolic vote just to support the 'party',for a guy who has some serious flaws.Sure his flaws pale in comparison to that of Barry O but Im not going to be goaded into taking the lesser of two evils.This election the chips will fall where they fall,without my vote.

Im writing in my choice this year.Throwing it away even tho Ive probably mocked some folks in the past over the same issue.I will not be voting for some go nowhere third party guy or some random independent tho.

If Obama wins Ill eat my shit just like all of the guys who voted for him are going to have to.If McCain wins the shit will be slightly tastier and a little less 'fragrant'.

You make some points, given the fact you reside in a dark navy (nearly black!) state.

Who are you writing in? Duncan Hunter? :103631605

Obama would be a disaster for the country. Within a year, the neophyte would all but ensure we'd be attacked on a scale that would make 9/11 look like the local park on the 4th of July.

This is dangerous world we live in. No room for "hope" and "change."

Obama will double the capital gains tax, bring back the death tax, raise the second highest corp tax in the world by 10 points, implement the first ever "global poverty tax", "Fairness Doctrine," secret ballots for unions, another 2-3 Ruth Baber Ginsburgs to the SC, cede more US sovereignty to the UN, environmental mandates that will suck more capital out of Mainstream America and into cities like Beijing and Delhi....

And this is simply what he says he will do. :ohno:

The Pelosi-Reid-Obama Democrats must be stopped at all costs.
 

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im referring to iraq. they have a stronger mentality and we are outnumbered. no way they will let the US take them down. lost fight from the beginning
Typical defeatist attitude. Anything that is too hard, just give up! Obama '08!
 

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You make some points, given the fact you reside in a dark navy (nearly black!) state.

Who are you writing in? Duncan Hunter? :103631605

Obama would be a disaster for the country. Within a year, the neophyte would all but ensure we'd be attacked on a scale that would make 9/11 look like the local park on the 4th of July.

This is dangerous world we live in. No room for "hope" and "change."

Obama will double the capital gains tax, bring back the death tax, raise the second highest corp tax in the world by 10 points, implement the first ever "global poverty tax", "Fairness Doctrine," secret ballots for unions, another 2-3 Ruth Baber Ginsburgs to the SC, cede more US sovereignty to the UN, environmental mandates that will suck more capital out of Mainstream America and into cities like Beijing and Delhi....

And this is simply what he says he will do. :ohno:

The Pelosi-Reid-Obama Democrats must be stopped at all costs.

EXCELLENT Post !
 

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lol...you do follow current events right?

Who is they, the Sadr 'army' now sidelined in leiu of politcal facesaving after a severe asskicking by the IA/US or AQI whos just about been wiped out by the very folks that they wished to ally with (Sunnis) and the US?

Homestretch for victory is at hand.

Youll need to find a new point of reference soon.

gtc08 started off being a reasonably type guy, but I think this talking politics stuff has pushed him off the deep end.

I my try to reel him in

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