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This is not verbatim, but this is close and it is all they said:


The United States intends to comply with the ruling to the extent it is consistent with WTO law and will do so within a reasonable period of time.

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I guess "We (the US) won" wasn't going to fly as well in front of the international community as it did in their press releases. Or maybe they finally read the thing and realized the import of the decision.
 
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Or maybe they realize the soon to be dominant player in the world will be the European Union
 
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Jay C said:
This is not verbatim, but this is close and it is all they said:


The United States intends to comply with the ruling to the extent it is consistent with WTO law and will do so within a reasonable period of time.

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I guess "We (the US) won" wasn't going to fly as well in front of the international community as it did in their press releases. Or maybe they finally read the thing and realized the import of the decision.

WOW....Ill believe it when I see it :drink: one can only pray they do but I doubt it
 

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Jay,

I still find the US response to be vague and arrogant. Aren't they SUPPOSED to abide by the WTO ruling? It just doesn't sit well with me as I find the words "intends" and "reasonable" to be anything but a rational response...

In fact, it's insulting if one dissects the words apart...

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I don't think that it "really" means much. It sounds like mouthpiece rhetoric that they are using to just buy time until they can figure out how to justify their stance---which I don't see changing.

I just can't see it happening......no way.
 
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The US can say any thing they want and at the same time, do any thing they want. Laws do not apply to them. We all know that.
 
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I think SVT hit it on the head...does it really matter if the US is suppose to abide by this? The US will continue to follow the international laws that they see as beneficial.
 
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BNA Inc., WTO Reporter

Antiguan Minister Says U.S. Rule Change
Needed to Comply With WTO Gambling Ruling

GENEVA--The United States must lift a ban on the cross-border provision
of Internet gambling services in order to bring its practices in line
with its World Trade Organization commitments, a senior official from
Antigua and Barbuda told the trade body May 19.

Antiguan Finance Minister Errol Cort told a meeting of the WTO's Dispute
Settlement Body that a mere "tweaking" of U.S. legislation would not be
enough to bring the United States in compliance with a WTO ruling
partially condemning the ban on remote gambling, as U.S. officials
contend.

"To comply with the ruling, the United States must give Antigua market
access for the provision of gambling and betting services," Cort
asserted. "This should not be a difficult or time-consuming task.

The Antiguan minister added that his country accepts that online
gambling should be subject to regulation and was prepared to cooperate
with the United States on rules that would give Antiguan operators
"fair, reasonable and responsible access to the enormous gambling market
in the United States."

U.S. Pledges Compliance With WTO

On April 7 the WTO's Appellate Body upheld an earlier panel ruling
backing Antigua's claim that the United States had, contrary to its
assertions otherwise, included specific commitments on market access for
cross-border gambling and betting services in its WTO services schedule
(67 WTO, 04/8/05 ).

The Appellate Body also maintained--but only in part--the panel's
rejection of U.S. claims that restrictions on cross-border gambling
services were justified under Article XIV of the WTO's General Agreement
on Trade in Services (GATS), which allows an exception from WTO services
commitments for trade-restrictive measures deemed "necessary to protect
public morals."

The Appellate Body agreed with the United States that three U.S. federal
statutes in question--Section 1084 of Title 18 of the United States Code
(the Wire Act), Section 1952 (the Travel Act) and Section 1955 (the
Illegal Gambling Business Act)--were all measures necessary to protect
public morals. Nevertheless, the Appellate Body concluded, on narrow
grounds, that the U.S. ban was applied in a discriminatory manner in
violation of WTO rules.

The United States informed the DSB meeting that it intends to comply
with the WTO ruling but did not spell out when or how it would do so.

Deputy U.S. Trade Representative Peter Allgeier insisted after the
Appellate Body verdict was issued that the ruling allows U.S.
restrictions on Internet gambling to remain in place. "This report
essentially says that if we clarify U.S. Internet gambling restrictions
in certain ways, we'll be fine," Allgeier argued.

The Appellate Body found that the United States failed to disprove that
an additional federal statute--the Interstate Horseracing Act--permits
interstate wagers to be accepted by an off-track betting system via
telephone or other modes of electronic communication (including the
Internet), as Antigua had claimed, thus discriminating between foreign
and domestic service suppliers in violation of the Article XIV
provisions.

Referring to this finding, the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative
said April 7 the United States "needs to clarify one narrow issue
concerning Internet gambling on horse racing" in order to comply with
the ruling.

Cort pointed out that the ruling addresses all forms of "remote"
gambling, not just Internet gambling, and that the United States would
have to ban all types of the former (including services such as
off-track betting) in order to justify its "public morals" exception.

"If our fellow members were not aware of it, the United States has
sanctioned domestic Internet and telephone account wagering services
that accept hundreds of millions of dollars in wagers each year," the
Antiguan minister declared. "There is extensive remote gambling on horse
races and other events and contests in the United States."

Cort said a May 16 U.S. Supreme Court ruling on interstate sales of wine
bolstered his country's claims in the gambling dispute. The Supreme
Court struck down state laws in Michigan and New York barring
out-of-state wineries from selling directly to consumers but allowing
such sales by in-state wineries.

"This case is remarkably analogous to our dispute and, we suspect, may
very well soon have an impact on the resolution of this dispute," Cort
declared. By Daniel Pruzin
 

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I try and see the glass as half full idea, rather than the other way. So this has to be very good news in both the short term and long term.
I know the US has a bully reputation in light of recent events. It would seem this is a good opportunity to be seen in a more positive light.

Jay --Please keep us informed! :103631605
 

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TTinCO said:
I don't think that it "really" means much. It sounds like mouthpiece rhetoric that they are using to just buy time until they can figure out how to justify their stance---which I don't see changing.

I just can't see it happening......no way.

I agree with TT 100%. To reverse field now after all these years of fighting it won't happen IMO. It's like when US had Security Council take a vote on going into Iraq and then simply ignored it when it didn't go our way.


"to the extent that it is consistent with WTO law" to me is the key phrase in that statement. I read it to mean as the U.S. doesn't believe this is consistent with WTO law and reserves the right to ignore it.
 
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mudbone said:
"to the extent that it is consistent with WTO law" to me is the key phrase in that statement. I read it to mean as the U.S. doesn't believe this is consistent with WTO law and reserves the right to ignore it.

Precisely.
 

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I definately think there WILL COME a point in TIME; when all of this" cute language" by attorneys will be seen by the rest of the world as PURE LIES. You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time---but you can't fool ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL THE TIME!!
 
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Whoson1st said:
I definately think there WILL COME a point in TIME; when all of this" cute language" by attorneys will be seen by the rest of the world as PURE LIES. You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time---but you can't fool ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL THE TIME!!

But they don't have to fool the rest of the world. If any one doesn't like it they can lean on them in many different ways.

We didn't become the most popular nation on earth by playing fair.
 

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