UGA Buyers Remorse?

[1osubucks]

Many know how I feel about Kirby Smart ..probably most overrated in ages. As I have said numerous times he was never responsible for the defensive success at Alabama ... that was Nick Saban !

UGA has taken a step backwards coaching wise it is evident imo. They say be careful what you ask for .. UGA lucky they aren't 2-3 or 1-3.

 

[razorbackpicks]

They also gave the reigns to Jim Chaney on offense. He's always under performed and is an awful play caller. Sam Pittman is known as one of the best recruiters for Oline coaches but while at Arkansas we always got pushed around under his coaching. They are glad they are in the SEC east, an easy path to being propped up on wrongful hopes, just like being ranked 12tg this week.

 

[Albatross]

UGA has to stock the cupboard. It was left with no WRs, a very soft OL, super thin D, no kicker, and an ACC doormat QB.

Ole Miss is a top 5 team. I fully expected this L.

 

[DesertNole]

UGA has to stock the cupboard. It was left with no WRs, a very soft OL, super thin D, no kicker, and an ACC doormat QB.

Ole Miss is a top 5 team. I fully expected this L.

Qb play in the ACC is light years ahead of the garbage you see every weekend in the SEC.

 

[1osubucks]

UGA has to stock the cupboard. It was left with no WRs, a very soft OL, super thin D, no kicker, and an ACC doormat QB.

Ole Miss is a top 5 team. I fully expected this L.

No disrespect but #1 ole miss not a top 5 team, coming off back to back 10-3 years in what every one agrees is the best conference in america top to bottom, and in the last 15 years 13 of those classes have been top 10 classes recruiting wise. The cupboard is not empty. The problem was not coaching imo, it was the inability to beat Nick Saban.. a.k.a "the coach killer" ( les miles next, then the clown at auburn, and down the line) I still think Richt is a very good coach/man. In an over reaction to losing to saban UGA thought well if we cant beat him, then get one of his coaches. If I am ever proved wrong I will be the first to admit but I have watched Smart enough to have a very strong opinion on his coaching. He benefited from the Alabama brand and had the best of the best to work with every year.. I dont see any drop off with the Bama D since he left, do you?

IMO UGA fans will look back in the coming years and say that was a bad move...i could be wrong but dont think so.. time wil tell

How bout Rocky Top? That was a great win for them and I think the only team capable of going toe to toe with Bama. Still not buying in to A&M..

LSU? my goodness.. how about how that one ended? That was probably one of the most entertaining endings I have seen in awhile. I think LSU brass started reaching out to Tom Herman last night.

I would love to see Houston and Bama play, Herman is the best right now at calling a game, it would great to watch what he could do against the best in Nick Saban..

I would not call QB play in the SEC garbage at all.. it is the most physical conference in the country with the greatest amount of talented defenders.... not easy to excel at QB against those defenses.. other then clemson, who in the acc has a great QB? dont call the freshmen at FSU great, please !

 

[Albatross]

UGAs recruiting has been horrible the last few years under Richt. The 2013 class has killed current UGA football. Look at the WRs and Oline we have. We couldnt develop a QB so we brought in a slouch from a shitty Virginia team. I am big on Kirby. Love the emotions and the recruiting I have seen thus far. It was a 8-4 season regardless. I do know that if CMR was here, we would have lost the UNC game.

Yesterday dropped passes and missed FGs killed the game.

 

[Albatross]

Qb play in the ACC is light years ahead of the garbage you see every weekend in the SEC.

Who do you speak of???? I think outside of a few teams the QB play in the SEC is strong.....also very young.

 

[rolltide]

lost his first game on 2nd of a 2 game SEC road trip as a 7-pt dog ... hardly some crazy unexpected loss. Kelly is a hell of a QB and beat him now 3 straight...

UGA will be just fine once the 2016 recruiting class and 2017 recruiting class get into full game mode. Probably will snag the EJ price kid as well. UGA will be nasty in 3 years but not a lot to work with right now. Kirby has made two big mistakes so far...1) hiring ex-Pitt OC who is average to below average OC and bad recruiter .... 2) Causing such a fuss by pulling Mo Smith away from Bama as a grad transfer. Smith defensed all of 1 pass and made 15 tackles last year in 15 games (that's 1 more pass than i defensed). Pick your fights against Saban and Bama but Mo Smith wasn't worth it

SEC QB situation looks to be in pretty good hands with freshman like Hurts and Eason, seniors like Dobbs and Kelly. Wouldn't worry too much about that

 

[torpedomo]

Tennessee only -3 vs that dog poop Georgia team?

 

[WinOne]

SEC QB play has been down for awhile now. Other than the Mannings, and now Prescott, you don't see the NFL littered with a bunch of SEC QB's. But the SEC makes it's name on the play of the DL and OL. And they still produce a WR or two despite the lack of exceptional QB's.

As for UGa, we'll see. I think that's an awfully big job to give to a first time hc, no matter who he was mentored by. Same for a guy like Muschamp. You can't blame Smart for taking the money, and apparently he was the guy they targeted. Now after year two, if things aren't turning around, it will be a very interesting conversation to be had in how they get rid of an alum, if it comes to that. Those are always tough discussions....

 

[Albatross]

SEC QB play has been down for awhile now. Other than the Mannings, and now Prescott, you don't see the NFL littered with a bunch of SEC QB's. But the SEC makes it's name on the play of the DL and OL. And they still produce a WR or two despite the lack of exceptional QB's.

As for UGa, we'll see. I think that's an awfully big job to give to a first time hc, no matter who he was mentored by. Same for a guy like Muschamp. You can't blame Smart for taking the money, and apparently he was the guy they targeted. Now after year two, if things aren't turning around, it will be a very interesting conversation to be had in how they get rid of an alum, if it comes to that. Those are always tough discussions....

I can agree with this. I think 3 years is the probably evaluation time. UGA has QBs coming in that are big time players. The QB talent like Stafford.

 

[SECplayer]

I never understood the Kirby Smart hire from day 1.

I dont mean that as a complete slight to Kirby but it's just the fact that Georgia is absolutely a premium job. It's one thing to end up with a first time coach but as best as I could tell, they didn't even really make much of an attempt to go after anyone more established.

If Georgia had to go with a coordinator, I'd have gone with Lane Kiffen before Kirby Smart.

 

[WinOne]

I don't know if the talent is down at UGa. Mark Richt always seemed to win 9 or 10 games and did so last year. They still look pretty darn big on both sides of the ball. I will say in Saban's first year at Bama, while he was putting in his system and getting his players, I think they lost to ULM, and were not impressive in every game they played. So let's see where this season shakes out for Smart and his staff.

 

[SECplayer]

I don't know if the talent is down at UGa. Mark Richt always seemed to win 9 or 10 games and did so last year. They still look pretty darn big on both sides of the ball. I will say in Saban's first year at Bama, while he was putting in his system and getting his players, I think they lost to ULM, and were not impressive in every game they played. So let's see where this season shakes out for Smart and his staff.

Agreed. He deserves his 4 years regardless.

And as as ugly as some of the wins were, he's still 3-1.

 

[WinOne]

I never understood the Kirby Smart hire from day 1.

I dont mean that as a complete slight to Kirby but it's just the fact that Georgia is absolutely a premium job. It's one thing to end up with a first time coach but as best as I could tell, they didn't even really make much of an attempt to go after anyone more established.

If Georgia had to go with a coordinator, I'd have gone with Lane Kiffen before Kirby Smart.

I would agree with you 100% with the young QB and the stable of RBs there. You could have brought in a DC. But I'm biased because I'm an offensive guy. I want to see how Eason develops under Smart. Will he bring in a guy to tutor him and make him get better. That's what we'll look at over the next few years. Either way, UGa will always have talent. The HS football in that state is top notch, and because of their name, the can go make a run at any kid they want.

 

[1osubucks]

You guys are close to the SEC.. what do think happens at LSU? Almost feel bad for Ed Orgeron if they dont give him a good look.. it will be second time for him. I dont know much about him but his players seemed to respond well to him at sc. Personally I am not seeing the edge in going after Jimbo Fisher.. I think and most probably agree Tom Herman is the golden nugget out there. The recruiting base of LSU is in the land of Tom Hermans recruiting heartland. He has always recruited that area of the country.. I think if they throw enough money his way he is theirs for the taking. I think he would go in there with a chip on his shoulder to see if his offensive system would not only succeed but dominate in the SEC.. just think of the LSU athletes in his system.. it would be scary and just might drive Nick Saban in to retirement [h=1][/h]

 

[RunLeeRun]

Good joke. Nobody is going to drive Saban into retirement, that works the other way around.

 

[SECplayer]

You guys are close to the SEC.. what do think happens at LSU? Almost feel bad for Ed Orgeron if they dont give him a good look.. it will be second time for him. I dont know much about him but his players seemed to respond well to him at sc. Personally I am not seeing the edge in going after Jimbo Fisher.. I think and most probably agree Tom Herman is the golden nugget out there. The recruiting base of LSU is in the land of Tom Hermans recruiting heartland. He has always recruited that area of the country.. I think if they throw enough money his way he is theirs for the taking. I think he would go in there with a chip on his shoulder to see if his offensive system would not only succeed but dominate in the SEC.. just think of the LSU athletes in his system.. it would be scary and just might drive Nick Saban in to retirement

Coach O has zero shot at staying on as head coach. Remember he's not even their defensive coordinator. I'm sure whoever is ultimately retained will be advised to keep him (and they would probably want to) as he is a helluva DL coach and a fantastic recruiter.

But as far as recruiting goes, LSU is one of the few schools that doesn't need to prioritize recruiting in seeking a new head coach. The place practically recruits itself. Yes, they will lose a recruit every once in awhile to Bama but it doesn't matter. They are in such a talent rich state and the only main school in Louisianna. They would probably have a top 10 class without even picking up a telephone.

Without any inside info whatsoever:
1. Agree that Herman is probably choice #1.
2. Jimbo Fisher's agent will definitely get a call. Though many people believe he turned LSU down last year which was a big part of Les Miles being saved at the last minute. Even if true, they'll try again.
3. Bobby Petrino. He might be underrated as 3rd choice. I think he would be amazing with LSU talent. He had success at Arkansas which is not remotely as talented in high school football as Louisianna.
4. Lane Kiffen. Maybe I'm the only one that thinks this would be a good hire. I'd definitely give him an interview.
5. Art Briles. Very very unlikely.

Any other options being floated around?

Saw LSU Scout site mention Dan Mullen which is laughable. Tiger fans would riot.

 

[CoachCB]

It's Herman or bust for LSU.

Those questioning the Smart hire are nuts. He was the hottest non-head coach candidate out there. UGA hired Richt from FSU w no previous head coaching experience. Smart can recruit....and he learned from the best head coach in the history of college football.

 

[SECplayer]

It's Herman or bust for LSU.

Those questioning the Smart hire are nuts. He was the hottest non-head coach candidate out there. UGA hired Richt from FSU w no previous head coaching experience. Smart can recruit....and he learned from the best head coach in the history of college football.

For the record, I don't remotely think that Kirby Smart was a "bad" hire. I was actually trying to compliment Georgia that I think it's such a great job, I'm surprised they didn't go after more established coaches with head coach experience.

Regarding the the part of your post that I highlighted, is there any reason a program like Georgia should be relegated to hiring a "non-head coach candidate"? Again, I don't remember them even attempting to hire anyone else.