U.S., Canada clash on pot laws

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For the record, I don't smoke pot - never have.

For the life of me, I can't understand how the US Government can stick it's nose into the internal affairs of Canada.

IF CANADA WANT'S TO DECRIMINALIZE POT POSSESSION, THAT'S THEIR BUSINESS......

THESE PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON ARE NUTS...
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The Bush administration is hinting that it could make it more difficult for Canadian goods to get into this country if Canada's Parliament moves ahead with a proposal to drop criminal penalties for possession of small amounts of marijuana.

The proposal, part of an effort to overhaul Canada's anti-drug policies, essentially would treat most marijuana smokers there the same as people who get misdemeanor traffic tickets. Violators would be ticketed and would have to pay a small fine, but they no longer would face jail time.

Canada's plan isn't that unusual: 12 U.S. states and most of the 15 nations in the European Union (news - web sites) have eased penalties on first-time offenders in recent years. That's a reflection of how many governments have grown weary of pursuing individual marijuana users.

But U.S. officials, while stressing that they aren't trying to interfere in Canada's affairs, are urging Canadians to resist decriminalizing marijuana.

In a lobbying campaign that has seemed heavy-handed to some Canadians, U.S. officials have said that such a change in Canada's laws would undermine tougher anti-drug statutes in the USA, lead to more smuggling and create opportunities for organized crime. Bush administration aides note that marijuana is an increasing problem along the Canadian border, where U.S. inspectors seized more than 19,000 pounds of the leaf in 2002, compared with less than 2,000 pounds four years earlier.

In December, U.S. anti-drug czar John Walters stumped across Canada, criticizing the decriminalization plan. He told business groups in Vancouver, where police allow public pot-smoking in some areas, that they would face tighter security at the U.S. border if Canada eased its marijuana laws.

The backlash was immediate across Canada, where surveys have shown that nearly 70% of the country believes that possessing a small amount of marijuana should be punishable only by a small fine. Canadian newspapers accused the USA of being arrogant and called Walters paranoid.

For years, the USA and Canada have squabbled over border issues like longtime friends with a few habits that annoy each other. U.S. officials dislike Canada's looser immigration laws and limited regulation of prescription drugs, particularly pseudoephedrine, used to make methamphetamine.

Canadian officials complain that Colombian cocaine and Mexican heroin often enter Canada via the USA. Canadians argue that the USA should do more to curb Americans' demand for illegal drugs, because restricting the supply only increases prices.

Canada's full Parliament is likely to consider a decriminalization proposal soon.

Committees in the House of Commons and the Senate have issued reports that say police should not arrest people for smoking marijuana, adding momentum to the decriminalization effort. Early versions of the proposal say those caught with no more than 30 grams -- about an ounce -- of marijuana for personal use would be ticketed and fined an undetermined amount.

'Drug tourist' penalties

Marijuana possession in Canada now is a criminal offense that can carry jail time. Although people convicted of such an offense rarely are sent to jail, they do end up with a criminal record. In the USA, states generally prosecute marijuana-possession offenses, and sentences vary from mandatory jail time to fines. Under federal sentencing guidelines, a person conviction of possession could be sentenced to a year in jail.

Canada would keep criminal penalties for marijuana offenses that pose a significant danger to others, such as illegal trafficking, selling to minors or driving while under the influence of the drug. To prevent ''drug tourists,'' Canadian officials say they would consider special penalties for sales to non-Canadians.

Walters and other U.S. officials said they are worried that such a policy change would make marijuana more available in Canada, leading to more smuggling. They say drug gangs, sensing a more tolerant climate, probably would move their operations near the Canadian-U.S. border, and more American teens would cross the border to smoke pot.

Looser marijuana laws in Canada would make it ''probable we will have to do more restrictive things at the border,'' Walters said.

For Canadians who have been slowed by security checks imposed by the USA since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, that would mean more delays in crossing the border, he said. That could damage Canadian business; trade with the USA accounts for 70% of Canada's exports.
 

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What's next step gonna be ? Bomb Toronto ?
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And you guys think these "fanatics" in Washington are gonna promote online gaming?

Alright boys, which is it now uh uh uh - are you with us or agin us?

U go agin us and u ain't gettin no part of them contracts in EYE RACK
 

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This is pretty much out of the politicians hands. Even if they wanted to bend to the US will the courts have taken it over.

My southern friends, get ready for a load of high-quality THC.
 

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The US government is so idiotic. Alcohol is the true gateway drug, not marijuana.

People on Alcohol drive more reckless and cause fights.

People on THC drive slow and eat more.

I would rather have a country of potheads anyday.
 

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I'm not certain of course, but I feel Canada is developing those weapons of Mass Destruction. I mean for instance :Isn't that where Peep is From and Neteller's Homebase. I don't think we have any choice but to set them straight.

I mean--what in the world are they thinking about marajuana! I say life without parole for even looking at it --Much less inhaling it. That will cure the problem.
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i know if the US legalized it. It would sure piss off alot of people i know
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>i know if the US legalized it. It would sure piss off alot of people i know
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THEN THEY WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO TAX IT LIKE CIGARETTES IT DEFINITLY WOULD BE CHEAPER FOR MANY FOLKS TO BUY TOO
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BAD THOUGH FOR THE PEOPLE WHO SELL IT
 

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It will be legalized in the US when RJ Reynolds and Phillip Morris, Brown adn Williamson start to develop a method of growing and packaging it and THEN CONTRIBUTE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS to a Congressman that will sponser it.

Freedom of Speech--I think. And of course, in your heart--you know I'm right.
How did booze become legal??
 

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Oldman:

Booze ALWAYS was legal, save a few years of history in this country.
 

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And Booze my friend, has wrecked more marriages, killed more people and destroyed more lives than all the marajuana on the face of the earth.
 

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