Todays nascar race was the biggest load of bullshit I've seen

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I cant believe how much they fucked up the race today. For those who didnt see it the tires that goodyear had for this race were so bad nascar had to call a compition caution every 10 laps because thats all the tires would last.

Tony Stewart was right earlier this year when he said goodyear was shit.
 

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Apparently, you're not alone:


http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nascar/2008-07-27-brickyard-tires_N.htm

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By Nate Ryan, USA TODAY

INDIANAPOLIS — Because six of the past nine Allstate 400 at the Brickyard winners also went on to claim season championships, Indianapolis Motor Speedway has been a barometer of greatness in Sprint Cup. The 15th running of a race ranked second in stock car prestige to the Daytona 500 will be remembered as anything but great.

The 2.5-mile track known as NASCAR's Titletown turned into Tire Town on Sunday — and not because Jimmie Johnson snatched the lead on a pit stop with nine laps remaining and held off Carl Edwards to win his second Brickyard in three years.

Unable to run more than 13 consecutive green-flag laps because of excessive tire wear, frustrated drivers erupted in a chorus of criticism at the world's most famous racetrack.

"It's embarrassing; it's disappointing," said four-time winner Jeff Gordon, who finished fifth. "I hate it happened at the Brickyard. It's such a big race."

Dale Earnhardt Jr. called it the "most bizarre race" he'd seen. "I am ashamed, but there wasn't much we could do," Earnhardt (12th) said. "I feel bad for NASCAR. They certainly don't deserve (the heat). That was the best show we could put on."

In the interest of safety to avoid blowouts, NASCAR threw six competition caution flags, intentionally halting action so teams could change tires that weren't durable enough to last more than 12 laps on an abrasive surface (a Goodyear prerace estimate had the pit window at 32-34 laps).

The result was a record 52 of 160 laps run under yellow and a race lacking any rhythm.

"That wasn't a race," Ryan Newman (13th) said. "It's ridiculous. That's a lack of preparation from NASCAR to Goodyear to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway to put on a show like they did. It's disrespectful to the fans."

Goodyear held an Indy test with Earnhardt, Brian Vickers and Kurt Busch on April 22-23. Tony Eury Jr., Earnhardt's crew chief, said tires wore out after 15 laps, but Goodyear officials elected not to bring a new tire because the track surface historically had gained grip during the race to help lessen tire wear.

But the track never picked up enough rubber, and tire problems were exacerbated by the Indy debut of NASCAR's next-generation car, a heavier model that puts higher stress on right-side tires (third-place finisher Denny Hamlin said, "There would have been no issues with the old car.").

"It's nobody's fault," said Goodyear spokesman Greg Stucker, whose company sent 800 extra tires (earmarked for next week's race at Pocono Raceway) to Indy that weren't needed Sunday. "It's the package, and that's what we need to understand.

"We need to know why the racetrack didn't take rubber like last year."
It's the second time this season Goodyear has come under fire. Tony Stewart lambasted the supplier for its tire at Atlanta Motor Speedway in March, but many said Sunday was worse.

"At least at Atlanta we could run more than 10 laps," Jamie McMurray said. "I'm shocked they did a tire test and this is what they ended up with."
Said winning car owner Rick Hendrick: "A race this big, we can't test with two to three cars. We should have everyone."

Robin Pemberton, NASCAR's vice president of competition, wouldn't commit to an open test in 2009 but said, "It's fair to say we won't do the same thing. We're 1-for-15 in the loss column here. We have to take what we learned and do a better job."
 
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it was a big joke, wouldnt expect such a mickey mouse operation out of one of the bigger races in the chase
 

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my most profitable race in over 2 years.
i wish they were like this every week.
hit the race winner and 7 out of 8 matchups
 

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I made a profit as well and had Johnson at a nice price. Good to see the best car win for a change.
Of course, everything is better with Tivo (just fast forward through those cautions).
I don't actually enjoy the sport without betting on it, so my happiness factor depends on the outcomes of my bets.
At least they took driver safety into consideration in a very bad situation.
 

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Sunday, Jul 27, 2008 6:26 pm EDT
Smoke's bare-knuckle ownership style gets its first workout

By Jay Busbee

If this is what Tony Stewart's Sprint Cup ownership is going to be like, NASCAR's going to have its hands full real fast. At last Thursday night's USAC race at O'Reilly Raceway Park in Indiana, Smoke went googly-eyed crazy on an officiating crew, assaulting -- in the legal, if not the racing, sense -- at least two of them. Seems that the crew wouldn't let Stewart's driver Tracey Hines back onto the track after a wreck, and things got really ugly from there. A civvies-clad Smoke came charging into the fray faster than you could ever imagine him moving -- he's the blur in the Home Depot orange oval below:

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He then proceeded to yank the headphones off of one official:

ept_sports_nascar_marbles-643862894-1217197057.jpg
He stormed off, and en route, shoved another official right in the chest:

ept_sports_nascar_marbles-599368978-1217197123.jpg
And then seethed for awhile. (You can check out the full video right here at WTHR-Indianapolis's website.)
Hmmm. Wonder why nobody made a big deal of this one at Sunday's Brickyard telecast? Not quite the kinder, gentler politically correct image that Smoke has been trying to project now that he's an owner, huh?
On one hand, it's an incredibly stupid and immature move that's going to get him fined, without a doubt. On the other, Smoke's looking like a serious challenger to Mark Cuban and the '70s-era Ted Turner for most awesomest owner ever.
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Sunday, Jul 27, 2008 6:26 pm EDT
Smoke's bare-knuckle ownership style gets its first workout

By Jay Busbee

If this is what Tony Stewart's Sprint Cup ownership is going to be like, NASCAR's going to have its hands full real fast. At last Thursday night's USAC race at O'Reilly Raceway Park in Indiana, Smoke went googly-eyed crazy on an officiating crew, assaulting -- in the legal, if not the racing, sense -- at least two of them. Seems that the crew wouldn't let Stewart's driver Tracey Hines back onto the track after a wreck, and things got really ugly from there. A civvies-clad Smoke came charging into the fray faster than you could ever imagine him moving -- he's the blur in the Home Depot orange oval below:

ept_sports_nascar_marbles-68056964-1217196963.jpg
He then proceeded to yank the headphones off of one official:

ept_sports_nascar_marbles-643862894-1217197057.jpg
He stormed off, and en route, shoved another official right in the chest:

ept_sports_nascar_marbles-599368978-1217197123.jpg
And then seethed for awhile. (You can check out the full video right here at WTHR-Indianapolis's website.)
Hmmm. Wonder why nobody made a big deal of this one at Sunday's Brickyard telecast? Not quite the kinder, gentler politically correct image that Smoke has been trying to project now that he's an owner, huh?
On one hand, it's an incredibly stupid and immature move that's going to get him fined, without a doubt. On the other, Smoke's looking like a serious challenger to Mark Cuban and the '70s-era Ted Turner for most awesomest owner ever.
(If this is your first visit to Yahoo!'s From The Marbles, welcome. Keep coming back. More like this every day. Click on that Marbles banner above to bookmark us.)
Wow, he's out of control again. You can see his frustration level rising after each race this season. Very dangerous situation for NASCAR. How do you control a volatile personality who drives a 3400 pound vehicle at speeds up to 200 mph?
 

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I kinda like what "Smoke" did its what racing use to be like I have been following Nascar since 1984 and it has changed so much through the years its gotten to where the drivers dont mean shit any more and Nascar lets the SPONSORS dictate what goes on in the sport.

And its the drivers that drive this billion dollar industry if it were not for them you could build museums out of all the tracks.

But its like everything else in the world its all about the Benjamins and fuck every body else.
 

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