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By JOHN R. BOLTONMARCH 26, 2015 The New York Times

FOR years, experts worried that the Middle East would face an uncontrollable nuclear-arms race if Iran ever acquired weapons capability. Given the region’s political, religious and ethnic conflicts, the logic is straightforward.
As in other nuclear proliferation cases like India, Pakistan and North Korea, America and the West were guilty of inattention when they should have been vigilant. But failing to act in the past is no excuse for making the same mistakes now. All presidents enter office facing the cumulative effects of their predecessors’ decisions. But each is responsible for what happens on his watch. President Obama’s approach on Iran has brought a bad situation to the brink of catastrophe.
In theory, comprehensive international sanctions, rigorously enforced and universally adhered to, might have broken the back of Iran’s nuclear program. But the sanctions imposed have not met those criteria. Naturally, Tehran wants to be free of them, but the president’s own director of National Intelligence testified in 2014 that they had not stopped Iran’s progressing its nuclear program. There is now widespread acknowledgment that the rosy 2007 National Intelligence Estimate, which judged that Iran’s weapons program was halted in 2003, was an embarrassment, little more than wishful thinking.
Even absent palpable proof, like a nuclear test, Iran’s steady progress toward nuclear weapons has long been evident. Now the arms race has begun: Neighboring countries are moving forward, driven by fears that Mr. Obama’s diplomacy is fostering a nuclear Iran. Saudi Arabia, keystone of the oil-producing monarchies, has long been expected to move first. No way would the Sunni Saudis allow the Shiite Persians to outpace them in the quest for dominance within Islam and Middle Eastern geopolitical hegemony. Because of reports of early Saudi funding, analysts have long believed that Saudi Arabia has an option to obtain nuclear weapons from Pakistan, allowing it to become a nuclear-weapons state overnight. Egypt and Turkey, both with imperial legacies and modern aspirations, and similarly distrustful of Tehran, would be right behind.
Ironically perhaps, Israel’s nuclear weapons have not triggered an arms race. Other states in the region understood — even if they couldn’t admit it publicly — that Israel’s nukes were intended as a deterrent, not as an offensive measure.
Iran is a different story. Extensive progress in uranium enrichment and plutonium reprocessing reveal its ambitions. Saudi, Egyptian and Turkish interests are complex and conflicting, but faced with Iran’s threat, all have concluded that nuclear weapons are essential.
The former Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Turki al-Faisal, said recently, “whatever comes out of these talks, we will want the same.” He added, “if Iran has the ability to enrich uranium to whatever level, it’s not just Saudi Arabia that’s going to ask for that.” Obviously, the Saudis, Turkey and Egypt will not be issuing news releases trumpeting their intentions. But the evidence is accumulating that they have quickened their pace toward developing weapons.
Saudi Arabia has signed nuclear cooperation agreements with South Korea, China, France and Argentina, aiming to build a total of 16 reactors by 2030. The Saudis also just hosted meetings with the leaders of Pakistan, Egypt and Turkey; nuclear matters were almost certainly on the agenda. Pakistan could quickly supply nuclear weapons or technology to Egypt, Turkey and others. Or, for the right price, North Korea might sell behind the backs of its Iranian friends.


The Obama administration’s increasingly frantic efforts to reach agreement with Iran have spurred demands for ever-greater concessions from Washington. Successive administrations, Democratic and Republican, worked hard, with varying success, to forestall or terminate efforts to acquire nuclear weapons by states as diverse as South Korea, Taiwan, Argentina, Brazil and South Africa. Even where civilian nuclear reactors were tolerated, access to the rest of the nuclear fuel cycle was typically avoided. Everyone involved understood why.
This gold standard is now everywhere in jeopardy because the president’s policy is empowering Iran. Whether diplomacy and sanctions would ever have worked against the hard-liners running Iran is unlikely. But abandoning the red line on weapons-grade fuel drawn originally by the Europeans in 2003, and by the United Nations Security Council in several resolutions, has alarmed the Middle East and effectively handed a permit to Iran’s nuclear weapons establishment.
The inescapable conclusion is that Iran will not negotiate away its nuclear program. Nor will sanctions block its building a broad and deep weapons infrastructure. The inconvenient truth is that only military action likeIsrael’s 1981 attack on Saddam Hussein’s Osirak reactor in Iraq or its 2007 destruction of a Syrian reactor, designed and built by North Korea, can accomplish what is required. Time is terribly short, but a strike can still succeed.
Rendering inoperable the Natanz and Fordow uranium-enrichment installations and the Arak heavy-water production facility and reactor would be priorities. So, too, would be the little-noticed but critical uranium-conversion facility at Isfahan. An attack need not destroy all of Iran’s nuclear infrastructure, but by breaking key links in the nuclear-fuel cycle, it could set back its program by three to five years. The United States could do a thorough job of destruction, but Israel alone can do what’s necessary. Such action should be combined with vigorous American support for Iran’s opposition, aimed at regime change in Tehran.
Mr. Obama’s fascination with an Iranian nuclear deal always had an air of unreality. But by ignoring the strategic implications of such diplomacy, these talks have triggered a potential wave of nuclear programs. The president’s biggest legacy could be a thoroughly nuclear-weaponized Middle East.
John R. Bolton, a scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, was the United States ambassador to the United Nations from August 2005 to December 2006.



http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/26/opinion/to-stop-irans-bomb-bomb-iran.html





 

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At least Bolton openly calls for war and isn't hiding his true agenda, like so many others on his side. Of course he's wrong headed, as we should always do what we can to avoid War. Bombing Iran is the quickest, surest path to War.
 

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Thanks to the Muslim Kenyan palling around with terrorists while sticking it to our allies, WAR is exactly where we are headed. :>(
 

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A toothless agreement while the son of a bitch taunts us on Twitter with rallying cries of Death To America. An agreement with a murderous regime whose intent is global mass murder outside its borders and brutal suppression inside its borders, a sure-fire recipe to nuclear blackmail and a nuclear arms race ... vs bombing the fuck out of all their installations until they are deneutered of their nuclear capabilities? Geez, tough call....
 

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Taunting us on twitter is way important:ohno:.
Of course, Iran is just gonna sit and take us bombing their sovereign land, and not do a thing in retaliation:ohno:.
Of course Israel, and US Cities will face no retaliation whatsoever, as Iran just says thanks US, may I have another:ohno:.

Geez is right.
 

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Taunting us on twitter is way important:ohno:.
Of course, Iran is just gonna sit and take us bombing their sovereign land, and not do a thing in retaliation:ohno:.
Of course Israel, and US Cities will face no retaliation whatsoever, as Iran just says thanks US, may I have another:ohno:.

Geez is right.

My feelings exactly. And, when they try to defend themselves and retaliate, like any other country would do, we will find some way to make them out to be the aggressors and the boogyman. They should just be nice and play dead while we destroy their country....................if they try to retaliate, then, all of a sudden, they are the bad guys. What are the chances they will do that? Lol.
 

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Bolton.

The attack would be specific to sites that are critical to the Iranian nuclear programme. It would not involve observers on the ground.

Both the US and Israel are capable of doing this.


Lets be clear what the choice is


It is between a nuclear capable Iran versus the preventive attack. A nuclear Iran is far more dangerous than a preventive strike.
 

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Bolton explains what would happen the next day after bombing Iran's nuclear facilities.


"In every capital in the Arab world, Saudi, UAE, Kuwait, Egypt. There would be celebrations. Because the Arabs don't want Iran to get nuclear weapons any more than Israel does.


If Israel is involved in the attack on Iranian facilities, Iran would unleash Hamas and Hezbollah to attack Israel.


It is ridiculous to say there would be a regional war. Because the Arab states would welcome the destruction of Iranian nuclear capability. Obama's negotions with Iran have accelerated the nuclear arms race in the region, Saudi, Turkey Egypt looking to acquire nukes.

The Iran regime could collapse due to popular uprising.

By negotiating with Iran, Obama is legitimising the Iranian regime."
 

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Saudi Arabia REFUSES to rule out building nuclear weapons to counter Iranian aggression


  • Saudi Ambassador to US said they will take measures to protect country
  • He said Middle East countries worried Iran will develop nuclear weapons
  • Iranian officials are due to meet with world leaders for 'nuclear talks' soon
  • Saudi-led airstrikes targeted Iranian-backed rebels in Yemen again today
  • The Gulf nation wants to avoid potential attack from its southern border





PUBLISHED: 20:04, 27 March 2015 | UPDATED: 20:38, 27 March 2015
Saudi Arabia will not rule out building nuclear weapons to defend itself against Iran, its ambassador to the United States has said.
Adel Al-Jubeir told CNN the 'kingdom of Saudi Arabia will take whatever measures are necessary to protect its security'.
Iranian officials are due to meet with world leaders to negotiate a relief in sanctions against the country in return for Tehran curbing its nuclear programme.
But Al-Jubeir claimed that other countries in the Middle East are 'concerned' about the prospect of Iran developing nuclear weapons.
The Gulf nation and its allies today launched airstrikes against Houthi rebels inside Yemen for a second day straight - in a move it claims protects its southern border from attack.





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Aggression: Saudi Arabia - whose air force has conducted more airstrikes against Iranian-backed rebels in Yemen (pictured) today - refuses to rule out acquiring a nuclear arsenal to defend itself






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Desperate measures: Its ambassador to the United States Adel Al-Jubeir told CNN the 'kingdom of Saudi Arabia will take whatever measures are necessary to protect its security'






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Battle: Yesterday, a Saudi-led coalition began bombing locations in Yemen's capital in Sana'a where Houthi rebels who want to overthrow the government were believed to be








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War: Saudi Ambassador Al-Jubeir says other countries in the Middle East are 'concerned' about the prospect of Iran - who they believe are backing the Houthi rebels in Yemen (pictured) developing nuclear weapons






The Saudi Ambassador said US President Barack Obama's administration has told them Iran will be 'cut off' from acquiring nuclear capability and there will be 'very intrusive inspections' to prevent such an outcome.
The Saudi ambassador added: 'I can't say that we like it, because we don't know the details.
'The assurances we have received from the administration have been positive but we want to see the details before we can make a judgement.'
Yesterday, Saudi Arabia and its allies in the region launched a series of airstrikes against rebel forces inside Yemen who they believe are backed by Iran.



Some experts believe the escalating conflict in the country is turning into a proxy war between the Saudi's and Yemen.
Referencing the growing violence there, Al-Jubeir said his country is growing concerned about what he deems 'Iran's interference in the affairs of other countries in the region'.
Adding: 'We believe Iran's behaviour... is not reassuring to people in the region.'
Today Saudi-led airstrikes bombarded the Houthi rebels in Yemen's capital Sana'a for a second day straight, but the militia force has reportedly made gains in the south and east.




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Escape: Airstrikes have destroyed rebel locations in Yemen's capital Sana'a but the country's president Aben Mansour Hadi was yesterday forced to flee a palace in Aden where he was forced to take refuge






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Some experts believe the escalating conflict in Yemen (pictured) is turning into a proxy war between the Saudi's and Yemen






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The rebel force took control of the capital Sana'a in a violent coup in January and yesterday, it seized the coastal town Aden and forced President Abd Mansour Hadi to flee the palace he was taking refuge in.



Now Reuters news agency reports the rebels have threatened his 'last refuge' in the port town of Shaqra, 60 miles east of Aden.






And a spokesman for the Saudi-led operation has said that defending the Aden government was the campaign's 'main objective'.
Brigadier General Ahmed Asseri said: 'The operation will continue as long as there is a need for it to continue.'
He added that planes from the United Arab Emirates had carried out their first airstrikes in the past 24 hours.
Iran's foreign minister has said the airstrikes need to 'stop and everybody has to encourage dialogue and reconciliation'.
Even though Mohammad Zarif conceded that Yemen was the 'hot issue of the day', he insisted that upcoming nuclear talks with world leader swill be used to find 'common ground'.
Eyewitnesses in Sana'a said Houthi fighters and allied military units are positioning anti-aircraft weapons at police stations in some neighbourhoods, causing panic among residents who fear they will become targets for air strikes.



'Proxy war': A spokesman for the Saudi-led operation has said that defending the Aden government against Houthi rebels (pictured in Aden) was the campaign's 'main objective'




Destruction: Iran's foreign minister has said the airstrikes in Yemen need to 'stop and everybody has to encourage dialogue and reconciliation'

British Foreign Secretary Philip Hammond said today that Saudi Arabia felt it necessary to intervene in Yemen to avoid Iranian-backed rebels taking over the country along its southern border.

He said: 'The Saudis are very exercised by the idea of an Iranian-backed regime in Yemen,' he told reporters during a visit to Washington.

'They cannot accept the idea of an Iranian-backed regime in control of Yemen, which is why they felt compelled to intervene the way they have.'

'We know there has been Iranian support for the Houthi and we are all concerned to avoid this becoming a proxy war.'
 

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Taunting us on twitter is way important:ohno:.
Of course, Iran is just gonna sit and take us bombing their sovereign land, and not do a thing in retaliation:ohno:.
Of course Israel, and US Cities will face no retaliation whatsoever, as Iran just says thanks US, may I have another:ohno:.

Geez is right.

Congrats on the use of the meaningless word "sovereign." The taunting on Twitter is an example of the maniacal hatred they foment, not the entirety, but you already knew that. Iran doesn't retaliate. It taliates. Do me a favor. Don't quote my posts. I'm not interested in your trite, empty rebuttals.
 

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Sitting round the table negotiating with Iran, has empowered Iran. They love to be on equal terms with the worlds leading powers. Who do the hell they think they are. They see themselves as a super power. Obama is leading the whole region into a nuclear arms race and apocalyptic catastrophe. Destroy their nuclear facilities, and any response from them take it on the chin.
 

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Sitting round the table negotiating with Iran, has empowered Iran. They love to be on equal terms with the worlds leading powers. Who do the hell they think they are. They see themselves as a super power. Obama is leading the whole region into a nuclear arms race and apocalyptic catastrophe. Destroy their nuclear facilities, and any response from them take it on the chin.

Sure, What's a few more Hundred thousands of New Yorkers, or DC Area Folks killed, or Deaths in Tel Aviv or Haifa? No Biggie. Attacking Iran on their sovereign land will start a War that will encompass all these things and more. Bolton is an ignorant, War Mongering Fool, who arrogantly thinks the US can do whatever we want with no repercussions. Thank G-D he and his crazy ilk have no say so currently, and saner people are in charge. Obama and the P5 +1 are trying to prevent Iran from getting the bomb and starting a Nuclear arms race. Idiots like Bolton are doing everything they can to see that he fails, so there will actually be an arms race and a War, that they arrogantly think America will win easily. The fact is America hasn't won a war in decades, and is in no position to easily win one now. Any war of such magnitude will see untold casualties on all sides.
 

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Congrats on the use of the meaningless word "sovereign." The taunting on Twitter is an example of the maniacal hatred they foment, not the entirety, but you already knew that. Iran doesn't retaliate. It taliates. Do me a favor. Don't quote my posts. I'm not interested in your trite, empty rebuttals.

Sorry, but I'll quote you whenever the fuck I want. The taunting on twitter is meaningless BS, just as is your empty reply. If we bomb Iran's Sovereign land, they will have every right to retaliate, and they most certainly will, here and unfortunately in Israel. Hopefully saner heads will prevail, we'll reach an agreement, and no attack will be necessary. Thank G-d people like you and your mindset are nowhere near the highest decision making capacity in the US.
 

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Only Iran's nuclear facilities would be destroyed, just like Israel destroyed Syrian(2007) and Iraqi nuclear facilities(1981) in the past.


If Iran retaliated then its military machine that it has built over decades would be EASILY destroyed by missiles, bombers. Its Air-force, Navy and Armoured divisions, barracks, munitions, missile facilities would be destroyed. The bulk within days. There would be NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND. The aim would not be regime change as it was in Iraq, the aim would be to obliterate its nuclear capability. If it was foolish enough to use its conventional forces then they would be obliterate, there would be no boots on the ground, no invasion by allied forces. The destruction would be from the air, bombers and missiles.

Iraq military might was quickly destroyed in the Gulf war and has never recovered, Iraq as a military capoability is now zero.


Iran would suffer the same military destruction.

Iran values its military so highly it would not risk its obliteration.
 

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The perfect reply to the insanity Bolton proposes in the comments sanction:

[h=3]RickSp[/h] Jersey City, NJ Yesterday To John Bolton, more war is always the answer. War will always succeed and there will be no consequences. And his is wrong. He claimed that we needed to invade Iraq because, with fissile material, they could fabricate a bomb within a year. He also claimed that our invasion of Iraq would bring democracy to the region. He was wrong on all counts. Our invasion brought was death, chaos and ISIS.

And now he demands that we bomb Iran because that will solve our problems. A common definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. We need to move away from Bolton's insanity.
 

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Only Iran's nuclear facilities would be destroyed, just like Israel destroyed Syrian(2007) and Iraqi nuclear facilities(1981) in the past.


If Iran retaliated then its military machine that it has built over decades would be EASILY destroyed by missiles, bombers. Its Air-force, Navy and Armoured divisions, barracks, munitions, missile facilities would be destroyed. The bulk within days. There would be NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND. The aim would not be regime change as it was in Iraq, the aim would be to obliterate its nuclear capability. If it was foolish enough to use its conventional forces then they would be obliterate, there would be no boots on the ground, no invasion by allied forces. The destruction would be from the air, bombers and missiles.

Iraq military might was quickly destroyed in the Gulf war and has never recovered, Iraq as a military capoability is now zero.


Iran would suffer the same military destruction.

Iran values its military so highly it would not risk its obliteration.

C'mon SB. I'd expect such a naive, simplistic, detached from reality, answer from others in this thread and on this board. We couldn't defaet a much easier foe, Iraq, in years, not days, and eventually had to retreat in defeat while helping to create and strengthening the Terrorist organizations we now see over there. That Iran is helping to fight against.
Iran wouldn't retaliate because they don't want to see their military obliterated???? So they're just going to take it, no retaliation??? Make no mistake, retaliation will be swift, hard, and destructive. Here and In Israel. The start of a long, destructive, war. For all concerned. That's what sick people like Bolton want. Continuous war. Pray to whaever G-d you believe in that fools like him are marginalized, and ridiculed, and never get into a position of power again.
 

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Another great reply in the comments section:
[h=3]RER[/h] Mission Viejo Ca Yesterday Asking Bolton's opinion on the Middle East is a bit like asking a doctor who killed his last patient while removing his tonsils to perform brain surgery. Bolton was one of the cadre of neocons who believed that removing Sadam Hussein from power would cause a thousand flowers to bloom in the Middle East. The naive and simplistic analysis by people who didn't even know the difference between a Sunni and a Shia has caused an untold torrent of violence and is one of the reasons Iran has managed to extend its sphere of influence. Bolton's solution the the problem he helped to create is to double down.
 

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Obama has finally messed up the one thing that no other nation could challenge America on ... our financial institutions that led the world. This new Chinese enterprise eventually will decimate many in the middle class.

Obama needs to get his head out of the sand of Iran and come home to reality. During Obama's watch, here the Russians are trying to change the World bank to China and they are close to doing it. China as the big winner will exploit all it's clients like the Chinese bank in San Francisco. This will devalue the dollar and take away America's lead role in the world economy. Obama has made so many enemies that the world is searching for a better way than Obama's, move forward.
 

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