To Hedge Or Not To Hedge???

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This is a topic that I feel is extremely important in sports betting. I have my own opinion that I'd rather not share until I hear what others think...

Whether or not to hedge should come down to mathematics and %'s, but I have been amazed at how often gamblers hedge when it is clearly wrong to do so...

I'll explain later...

Thoughts?

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It is an arguable issue for sure. Some say why did you bet it that way if you are going to hedge. Others will say grab the guaranteed money. Truly an independent decision and based on your finances IMO. If I'm a $10 player and can hedge a bet to win $200, then why not? I am gaining a guaranteed 20 units.
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What do you mean by HEdge? I think we all know but you might want to define.

<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p>I i used to hedge all the time, hedge my football plays at halftime for example, or hedge my parlays if I was 3 for 4 and needed one more. especially if it meant locking in enough profit so I did not have to meet the man. or hedge at halftime to lock in a profit and have a shot at winning "both ways". in the end tossed away lots of cash doing this.

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with off shore and cash all posted up I don’t fall for that anymore. <o:p></o:p>

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I hedge if I have a huge money line in my favor and I need to get something out of it. I had MArdy Fish in the Olympics and hedged out or it in the semis and finals (and Im glad I did). found the best prices to do it however, and looked everywhere for them. hedge with the best possible price.

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I hedged out of my KErry bet because the reason I made the KErry bet in mid Sept was to hedge it later. I handicapped that if would be possible to hedge the line and I turned out right. That is a good use of the hedge. If you "know" the line will do something. Of course you never know but you get my point. This might be considered a smart scalp not a hedge.

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so my advise. don’t hedge and give away your advantages (like dont take even money in blackjack). however, if you handicap a possible hedge situation then bet it and follow through with your hedge.<o:p></o:p>

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Go ahead and hedge if you have a huge money line going your way (like 25-1 or greater) and you want to take something down for profits.<o:p></o:p>

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Always hedge if you see a soft line, very reduced juice, like on an exchange if you can get somebody to bite then go for it and use that as your hedge. but not at full juice hedge at plus juice if you can get somebody to bite on an exchange. Dont waste money at -110 or -107 hedging. Cuts too much of your profits away long term just for some instant gratification.<o:p></o:p>

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one last time to consider a hedge. If your goal is to get a rollover requirement done there is some logic in doing a hedge to get the rollover done while maintaining your balance to complete it. One thing on a rollover if your balance gets too low your hard pressed to ever finish it.<o:p></o:p>


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Best way I like to hedge is....

Take a 3 team teaser...2 1 oclock games and 1 4 oclock or 8 oclock game.

Assuming your first 2 games win, which is the only way this would work now you can hedge your 4 oclock game and get a 10 point middle!!! Worth it for the juice.

So lets say this week we take Balt +3, Indi PK, and Jets +17

If Balt and Indi win, come back and bet NE -7. At worst you lose the vig, at best you go 2 - 0 for a big profit. Basically you only need to win your early 2 games of the teaser. As for the 3rd game, bet against the team you think will cover. If you think NE will cover, bet the Jets + the points.

Not sure if this makes sense.

In other hedging, if you question your original bet, may as well take the guarenteed profit. I think it all depends on how much money is involved. If the money won't make a significant difference, I say don't hedge, but if hedging gives you a profit you are happy with, then by all means I think you should do it.

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i stopped hedging. my hedge issues were w/ futures not parlays.
i expect things to even out over the years, so why hedge.
just let it ride..
had coria at the french
capriati,davenport,hewitt at the us open.
all losers
but i did have fed and maria at wimbledon.
 

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hedge halftimes

if you make profit after all good...
if you balance your lose . good!..

less risk involved.
 

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You hedge when you feel vulnerable. I was to win 1100(335 down) on Houston if they beat St. Louis. After Game 5, I felt the Cardinals had a better than average chance to still win the series. I locked in 550 bucks. I look smart this time. Sometimes I won't. This is not an all or nothing idea here.
 

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The other day I hedged out of the baseball game (in extra innings) and a parlay on the 2nd game... Instead of winning 1700, I ended up with 400...I have no luck with hedges!
 

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Journeyman said:
Brilliant Newbie...where do you get this stuff?

i guess being since we were under 40ppl working at nasa
i learned something after all...
 

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have a nice weekend everyone,

good luck in all of your bets.
going to the beach,
sorry for those who work on weekends! :finger:
c ya on monday...



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Well we all know where I stand on this matter.


But hedging comes in a lot of varieties. Some I take excpetion to, like having a total blow out winner (seemingly) for a game, then trying to hit the second half. To me that is more or less a whole other bet. So if I had a team -3 for the game, and they were ahead 24-0 at the half, I wouldn't be taking them or their opponent whatever they would be offered at in the second half. Even if it was alucrative number. Unless I decided that it had some value somehow, which is always subjective.

But I hedge off all the time in seires plays. I got decent brakes in both these LCS match ups. I bet NY on the opener, then boguth a little on Bos after they lost game one, then bought back a little more when they lost game 2. I didn't however buy any when they were down 0-3, but who could? Even if you were over exposed on the Yankees. Most eople are not going to bet against over 100 years of history for some nice odds. GHuys who had the Yanks at +140/150 or whatever more than likely were counting their money up 3-0, especially after they scored 50 runs in that 3rd game.

But that series in and of itself is a PERFECT example as to why you should always hedge. Even with a seemingly insurmountable advantage.

But that is why ML based plays differe from spread based plays as well. You can not only hedge, but sometimes get some built in scalps as well.

Everyone like to win a big bet that they make, but in the long run if you hedged off every time you would be much further ahead. It isn't about the winning, it is about NOT LOSING. If I make 10 bux per on 100 plays, and never lose, I know where I am oping to be after those 100 plays. A guy betting one way has no way of knowing, he can only hope he hits more than h eloses, or he doubles down on awinner that gets him at least even.

Anyone reading the forums sees that. The first couple weeks the forums are rocking, everyone gung ho for football, and making money. Now most guys are dead ass broke and the forums have become ghost towns, except right on game time when the degenerates are out in force. And it isn't half way through the season yet.

The only thing you need to know is who makes more in thelong haul, the gamblers or the books? Books are basically hedging and adjusting all the ime to try and keep some semblance of balance. While some will take positions, they always have insurance. The list of books that gambled repeatedly are scattered throughout these forums, it doesn't take much of a search to find them.

Hedging is the smart way to survive.Gambling is good if you have a lot of money and aren't afraid to lose it. It all depends on what you are looking to accomplish.
 

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hedging is a great way to go if you are also getting even or Plus odds.


like the books do. ye hedge hedge hedge

you can try on the exchange to get plus odds in Game for example.

but dont hedge away at -110 just to lock in smaller profilts

that is like taking even money insurance in blackjack!

plus most of the time the books know there is some hedge from customers comming and they set the line and money line with that in mind making youget the worst of it almost every time.
 

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