<DL><DT>[size=+1]In Vietnam it was the same discussion: how to make friends, and win the minds and hearts of the people which the US wanted to conquer. As in all history, it was shown that it was impossible to make friends by invading, intimidating, shooting, bombing, jailing, torturing, killing, maiming, napalming or other deadly actions. It showed every time that the only people the US could call their friends were the dead, because they couldn't protest anymore.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]Flying aboard a US bomber plane up north in Vietnam in 1971, and looking at the huge amount of money represented by all the bombs in the holds, the crew and we journalists aboard agreed: if this had been the equivalent in crispy dollar notes to be dropped, the US would have had the best friends in the world among many local populations. Be it in Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia or other by the US invaded and bombed countries like Iraq or Afghanistan.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]But even as we all agreed - flying high above the misery or in the bar of the Caravelle journalists hotel in Saigon: the US cannon fodder had no choice they said. And it was very scary, not only to see it in the war in Vietnam and the rest of South East Asia, bit also later on when being based in Latin America (Chile '72 - July '74) this deadly effect of the "Orders are Orders" mentality: there was nothing human left to 'win hearts and minds': they all became "Dead Friends".[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]Most people will remember the picture of the little Vietnamese girl - running away from her bombed village with her napalm burnt back - http://tinyurl.com/54jaj - a show case of the horror of war, which seems to be forgotten or impossible to imagine for the Washingtonian 'chicken hawks' sending of soldiers to war.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]Again, a US war based once again on lies, fakes and brutal force. Where not the law, but 'Might makes Right' prevails, with a globally growing resistance proving that one doesn't make friends by kicking them in the groin or on the shins.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]If the Vietnamese girl had been photographed in a new 'ao dai' - the Vietnamese dress - http://tinyurl.com/63vuj - costing the equivalent of what the napalm burning her life had cost, the story would have been different.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]Fomented by the American murderous 'gun ship policy' with it's deadly effects, there's a daily growing hate against the US and it's killing allies, everywhere in the 199 countries surrounding the US. And Americans now travel as fake 'Canadians' to avoid the revenge and angry reactions of people they have betrayed.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]The world knows the US is not benevolent - but a bully.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]The logic of making friends by helping - instead of killing etc. - seems to have been lost in Washington's warmongering circles. Where the zionist neocon 'tail' not only wags - but apparently also has fully blinded the american warrior dog.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]Now mass graves and cemeteries everywhere are filled with people which have been killed instead of helped, and the US will never again be regarded as benevolent: the world knows the US is a bully. On thewell known web site - 'Axis of Logic' - Canadian writer Paul Harris* once wrote: "If the US is a nation of Peace Lovers, than help us God.''[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]And american writer Howard Zinn a few days ago explained in an eloquent article in the Miami Herald* that the best support for the troops (of all nations - HR) is to bring them home as soon as is possible:[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]"We must withdraw our military from Iraq, the sooner the better. The reason is simple: Our presence there is a disaster for the American people and an even bigger disaster for the Iraqi people. It is a strange logic to declare, as so many in Washington do, that it was wrong for us to invade Iraq but right for us to remain.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]A recent New York Times editorial sums up the situation accurately:[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]"Some 21 months after the American invasion, United States military forces remain essentially alone in battling what seems to be a growing insurgency, with no clear prospect of decisive success any time in the foreseeable future.''[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]And then, in an extraordinary non sequitur:[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]"Given the lack of other countries willing to put up their hands as volunteers, the only answer seems to be more American troops, and not just through the spring, as currently planned. . . . Forces need to be expanded through stepped-up recruitment.''[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]Here is the flawed logic: We are alone in the world in this invasion. The insurgency is growing. There is no visible prospect of success. Therefore, let's send more troops? The definition of fanaticism is that when you discover that you are going in the wrong direction, you redouble your speed.[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]But the first step is to support our troops in the only way that word support can have real meaning -- by saving their lives, their limbs, their sanity. By bringing them home." - [end Zinn quote][/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]But Washington's neocons prove the saying:[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]"Nobody is blinder, than one who does not want to see."[/size] <DT>[size=+1][/size] <DT>[size=+1]Blindest are the Dead.[/size] </DT></DL>
Good post Stucco.
The problem with dum dum is that bringing the troops home would mean admitting that his dum a*s was wrong -- not gonna happen.
The problem with GayFarce is that he is happy to sacrifice our troops if more brown people can be "liberated from life."
The problem with Redneckwoman is that he's unlikely to get in GayFarce's pants if he disagrees.
The problem with dum dum is that bringing the troops home would mean admitting that his dum a*s was wrong -- not gonna happen.
The problem with GayFarce is that he is happy to sacrifice our troops if more brown people can be "liberated from life."
The problem with Redneckwoman is that he's unlikely to get in GayFarce's pants if he disagrees.
People like Stucco, lander and Rikki are no different than those Woodstockers who spit on soldiers when they returned home after the Vietnam war.
Liberals like these will come to the aid of enemy Iraqi soldiers, Saddam and even Osama bin Laden himself if it would help them politically. Democrats are a far bigger long-term threat to our country than even Al Qaida. Sooner or later, Al Qaida will be weakened to the point where they will no longer be a threat but it will probably take more time to fully eliminate the democratic party.
All of their nastiness only shows what bitter people they truly are. Sometimes things turn out exactly as they should.
4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!
Liberals like these will come to the aid of enemy Iraqi soldiers, Saddam and even Osama bin Laden himself if it would help them politically. Democrats are a far bigger long-term threat to our country than even Al Qaida. Sooner or later, Al Qaida will be weakened to the point where they will no longer be a threat but it will probably take more time to fully eliminate the democratic party.
All of their nastiness only shows what bitter people they truly are. Sometimes things turn out exactly as they should.
4 MORE YEARS!!!!!!!!!!
"Sooner or later, Al Qaida will be weakened to the point where they will no longer be a threat but it will probably take more time to fully eliminate the democratic party."
You might eliminate AQ from the equation, but now you have to deal with 10 or 15 more groups spawning from the muddled adventure in Iraq.
The warmongers will be lucky to get outta the middle east without a nuke flying, another big brother getting involved, and WW III starting.
Somewhat laughable as to the Democratic party being the real enemy.....I can't remember how many American guys like Tim McVeigh actually took the time out to fill a rental truck with fertilizer and then drop a high-rise......I seriously doubt anyone really cared whether he voted republican or democrat...
You might eliminate AQ from the equation, but now you have to deal with 10 or 15 more groups spawning from the muddled adventure in Iraq.
The warmongers will be lucky to get outta the middle east without a nuke flying, another big brother getting involved, and WW III starting.
Somewhat laughable as to the Democratic party being the real enemy.....I can't remember how many American guys like Tim McVeigh actually took the time out to fill a rental truck with fertilizer and then drop a high-rise......I seriously doubt anyone really cared whether he voted republican or democrat...
