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May 20, 2011
To Challenge Nicklaus, Woods Could Adopt Hogan’s Schedule
By LARRY DORMAN
Until now, most comparisons between Tiger Woods and golfers from other eras have focused on Jack Nicklaus, whose record of 18 major championship victories has been circled on Woods’s to-do list since he was a skinny kid living in the Los Angeles suburb of Cypress, Calif.

But now it appears that a comparison to Ben Hogan might be more applicable. Should Woods reduce his schedule, as Hogan did in the 1950s after a horrific car accident in 1949, to maximize his chances of adding four majors to catch Nicklaus?

The possibility of playing less to win more could have crossed Woods’s mind as injuries have piled up — the latest a sprained medial collateral ligament in his left knee sustained at the Masters, along with a nagging Achilles’ tendon. Both were aggravated on his first official swing at the Players Championship last week. He withdrew after shooting 42 on the front nine, and reported on his Web site that the injuries were irritated but that he incurred “no new damage.”

At best, the Woods injury report is opaque. He does rehabilitation for a month between the Masters and the Players Championship, and the knee acts up and the hamstring is twanging on his first tee shot? Will another month of rest prepare him for the rigors of the United States Open, beginning June 16, at Congressional Country Club?

Or will Woods ultimately have to decide to rest until he is certain to be ready?

With the PGA Tour playing this week at Colonial Country Club in Fort Worth, the first course to be called Hogan’s Alley for his mastery of it, it is an appropriate time to consider whether Woods will take a page out of Hogan’s book and scale back his appearances. In 1953, Hogan played only six times, winning five events, including the three majors in which he played, and was given a ticker-tape parade in New York.

Before ardent Hogan disciples erupt in outrage, no one is suggesting here that Woods’s injuries are comparable to Hogan’s in severity. But consider this: Should Woods, rather than pushing himself to play more in order to get stronger, follow the Hogan option and play less to conserve strength?

Hogan was 36 when his car had a head-on collision with a bus on a foggy morning outside Van Horn, Tex. His injuries included two fractures to his pelvis, a fractured collarbone and left ankle, and life-threatening blood clots. Time away from competitive golf: 11 months.

Woods had his first operation at 19 to remove a benign cyst from behind his left knee. He is now 35 and has incurred no life-threatening injuries, but consider the cumulative effect of four operations on the knee, including the major reconstruction of the anterior cruciate ligament in June 2008; twin fractures of his tibia; a ruptured Achilles’ tendon; and neck injuries of indeterminate severity. Time away from competitive golf after his ’08 surgery: 10 months.

Woods came back and played well in 2009, winning six times. But he won no major championships and, beginning Nov. 27 of that year, went into a personal and professional tailspin after news of a one-car crash outside his Florida home in the early morning after Thanksgiving led to revelations about his multiple marital infidelities.

The self-inflicted injuries to his psyche may have had the biggest impact. There is no way to quantify the effect the months of embarrassing revelations, the painful divorce and the loss of parental control of his two children have had on Woods. Friends say it has been considerable.

It is nearly three years since Woods’s last major championship victory and almost two since his last Tour win. Hogan won the 1950 United States Open at Merion only four months after his return. He was two months short of his 38th birthday and proceeded to win five of his nine major titles after that Open.

It is highly unlikely that Woods is unaware of how Hogan handled his comeback.

Do not think for a moment that Nicklaus, the man who has been in Woods’s crosshairs all these years, has not calculated the likelihood of Woods’s catching him. Nicklaus told The Palm Beach Post this week: “He’s got a lot more golf in him. I promise you, he’s not done.”

Woods may be done with some things, but chasing Nicklaus is not one of them. Mindful that Nicklaus himself won his final major at 46 — and that Hogan won his last at 40 — Woods will no doubt work out the best way to catch him.
 

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I keep reading these posts quoting Nicklaus saying this and that. What is Nicklaus suppose to say, that he has no shot at catching his record ? Nicklaus is just being politically correct. Deep down, he also could be thinking Tiger has to many issues to overcome. As far as being ahead of the pace of Nicklaus. Alot of people are ahead of a pace on alot of things, who cares. That doesn't guarantee shit. I do know one thing, Nicklaus never lost his putting stroke at 34. That is the biggest key element in Tiger trying to in again
 

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Do not think for a moment that Nicklaus, the man who has been in Woods’s crosshairs all these years, has not calculated the likelihood of Woods’s catching him. Nicklaus told The Palm Beach Post this week: “He’s got a lot more golf in him. I promise you, he’s not done.”

I love that comment right there. I had no idea when I signed up for this forum there was going to be people in here that knew so much more about golf than Jack Nicklaus. I mean, i've learned in this forum that Tiger Woods cant be the best golfer in the world, that we should stick a fork in him. I was worried that his career might be done because of his high finishes in the majors, now thanks to the brilliant folks in this forum, i can confirm that. It wouldnt matter if Tiger died tomorrow, because the people in this forum have already told me Tiger will never be a good golfer again. I mean look what the field has done since he has been slumping, there are players that are really proving that they are seperating from everybody else. I'm blessed to have learned this.

This is all sarcasm for all the idiots in the world
 

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I keep reading these posts quoting Nicklaus saying this and that. What is Nicklaus suppose to say, that he has no shot at catching his record ? Nicklaus is just being politically correct. Deep down, he also could be thinking Tiger has to many issues to overcome. As far as being ahead of the pace of Nicklaus. Alot of people are ahead of a pace on alot of things, who cares. That doesn't guarantee shit. I do know one thing, Nicklaus never lost his putting stroke at 34. That is the biggest key element in Tiger trying to in again

Nicklaus never had a swing change either. or a car wreck, or got caught screwing around on his old lady, and he def was never expected to win every tourn he ever entered. I wouldnt worry about the putting stroke, thats the least of the concerns.

Where you been Red Eye?
 

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Nicklaus never had a swing change either. or a car wreck, or got caught screwing around on his old lady, and he def was never expected to win every tourn he ever entered. I wouldnt worry about the putting stroke, thats the least of the concerns.

Where you been Red Eye?

Right here posting ! You didn't reply to my last post on my thread about him falling out of the top 10 next week. When is he going to win again ? You keep telling us all he will dominate again, tell us when it will happen ?
 

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maybe this year, maybe next year...hell it maybe 3 years...if i knew id be rich....

you want me to call Tiger and ask him?
 

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and if you knew you wouldnt be in here trying to convince people the other way, because you know there is a (small) chance you could lose your bet.

the rankings?? seriously dude, going to the rankings
 

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if you want to go to the rankings, i'd venture to say they are wrong this week. David Toms is playing better than anybody in the world over the last 3 weeks, so he should be #1 in the world according to your stat.

David Toms, he's another major champion that hasnt won in 5 years but is playing well right now for example.

BTW, I have Toms to win colonial this week...$100 to win $3000
 

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and if you knew you wouldnt be in here trying to convince people the other way, because you know there is a (small) chance you could lose your bet.

the rankings?? seriously dude, going to the rankings

IF he was #1 again I'm sure we would here about it so when he keeps dropping its no big deal right ? I've already posted on my US Open thread of 22 golfers I would bet to win over Tiger. No reason to keep hashing all of this over and over. You know where I stand and have my $$ where my mouth is.
 

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rankings in golf dont mean shit unless there is a clear #1...everything after a clear #1 means nothing....right now there is not a clear #1-25
 

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Actually, it may not be a bad idea if Woods went the Bobby Jones route. Jones was a full time lawyer, and only showed up for majors. It would actualy add to the drama of a major if Tiger were to just play those tournaments and nothing else in between.
 

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rankings in golf dont mean shit unless there is a clear #1...everything after a clear #1 means nothing....right now there is not a clear #1-25

Can't argue to much with that, but we can revisit this when Tiger is out of the top 25, which could be sooner then you think.
 

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Actually, it may not be a bad idea if Woods went the Bobby Jones route. Jones was a full time lawyer, and only showed up for majors. It would actualy add to the drama of a major if Tiger were to just play those tournaments and nothing else in between.

I like the idea as well....I bet Tim Finchem would squirm at the thought of this, lol
 

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Can't argue to much with that, but we can revisit this when Tiger is out of the top 25, which could be sooner then you think.

i'm not arguing about anything in the rankings. i dont base anything off of what a ranking says. do you really believe the rankings show in what order the best golfers are in? come on red eye, your not an idiot
 

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i'm not arguing about anything in the rankings. i dont base anything off of what a ranking says. do you really believe the rankings show in what order the best golfers are in? come on red eye, your not an idiot

Your right the rankings don't mean anything, apparently not winning majors doesn't mean anything, not winning tournaments doesn't mean anything, not being able to make a clutch putt doesn't mean anything, not lasting more then 9 holes doesn't mean anything. What means something to you to justify him as of right now the best golfer out there ? I'm a idiot because I have my eyes wide open, making smart future plays, and your smart " Golf Guy " because your living in the past because nothing going on right now means anything. I'm sure we all have been set straight now.
 

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Your right the rankings don't mean anything, apparently not winning majors doesn't mean anything, not winning tournaments doesn't mean anything, not being able to make a clutch putt doesn't mean anything, not lasting more then 9 holes doesn't mean anything. What means something to you to justify him as of right now the best golfer out there ? I'm a idiot because I have my eyes wide open, making smart future plays, and your smart " Golf Guy " because your living in the past because nothing going on right now means anything. I'm sure we all have been set straight now.

did i say he is playing better than anybody else right now? I didnt think so....i'm pretty sure i just said over the last 3 weeks, David Toms is playing better than anybody in the world.
Did I say your bet was stupid? I didnt think so....i did say i hope you lose and only hope you lose because i'm a tiger fan. not because i want you to lose money.
All i'm saying is that he will be the best again....when? i have no clue. it may be soon, it may be awhile. at the masters he looked pretty damn close, at sawgrass he looked pretty damn bad. who knows?
he'll be back, just like jack did and like almost all golfers do in their careers. I've never heard of a golfer that has been the best player at all times in his entire career. Have you? If so, please tell me who because in my lifetime, I can only think of two golfers that have unquestionably been the best golfer in the world at any point....their names? jack and tiger....you have anybody to add to that list or take off that list?
 

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did i say he is playing better than anybody else right now? I didnt think so....i'm pretty sure i just said over the last 3 weeks, David Toms is playing better than anybody in the world.
Did I say your bet was stupid? I didnt think so....i did say i hope you lose and only hope you lose because i'm a tiger fan. not because i want you to lose money.
All i'm saying is that he will be the best again....when? i have no clue. it may be soon, it may be awhile. at the masters he looked pretty damn close, at sawgrass he looked pretty damn bad. who knows?
he'll be back, just like jack did and like almost all golfers do in their careers. I've never heard of a golfer that has been the best player at all times in his entire career. Have you? If so, please tell me who because in my lifetime, I can only think of two golfers that have unquestionably been the best golfer in the world at any point....their names? jack and tiger....you have anybody to add to that list or take off that list?

This is all in the past. I'm dealing with today, Tiger will not win any majors this year, probably no tournaments either.
 

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This is all in the past. I'm dealing with today, Tiger will not win any majors this year, probably no tournaments either.

Maybe he will...maybe he won't.....but your obviously worried about it or you wouldn't be in here trying to convince us he won't
 

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