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14-11 Wed/18-8 Tues (Cash 7 top plays)/7-4 Mon/664--521YTD
Another positive CBB night, cashed 7 top plays, and GREAT for BBall all around last night. 10-2 NBA. A strong week so far.

Ilinois-3-118
Utah Valley +2
Samford-4
St Thomas ML-125

Maryland-5
FIU-2

Western/Illinois/Tenn Martin Over 152

Top plays: Illinois, Utah Valley, Samford, St Thomas

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Big Sky Thursday!(Montana,Montana st)
What ya got Pirate?
Thanx
Just starting to look at some of the other games. About these 2 not as confident, but more-so Montana and Mon State ML so maybe a 2 team ML parlay of these 2

Montana at between -6-7 at most books is worth a shout. N. Colorado just cant be trusted with their lack of effort on the defensive end, Montana is also the better all around team and 9-3 ATS this season, covering 7 of their last 8 while N. Colorado is 5-6 ATS. Not a big play yet but playing them medium for now at -6 buying off the hook

Montana-6-118

N. Arizona/Mon state is a tough one as N. Az is prob the better overall team, but they stink on the road and Mon State has dominated them of late. I see it opened at -2.5ish and now up to -4 at some with a few for -3.5, so a gun to my head, Montana State up to 4 prob tops but no play for right now.
 

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Pirate, I have been checking your thread for a long time. I don't follow you 100% and sometimes I even go against your picks (I took PROV yesterday against SJU). I also would never bet as many games as you do daily since the juice would eat me up. And I don't bet totals because I proved to myself years ago that I don't do well with them. I do handicap the games myself and between my bets and the ideas I get from your threads I do ok... not great but ok. So, reading your thread can be very helpful.

I know you have been questioned about the amount of each of your wagers. But none of your replies have cleared this up. You seem to only have two wager classifications: Top plays or regular plays (those not listed as Top plays). But then when you talk about your previous days results, you will sometimes make statements implying your Top plays can be of different levels. Now, I understand that for some reason you don't want to indicate how much each of your wagers are worth. But this is very important to us reading your threads.

I determine my winnings by including the juice on each bet. Meaning, for example, I can win 5 and lose 5 in a day and be a net loser (flat betting) because I count the juice lost on my winners and further reduce my winners if I buy any points--- that is my real world betting results. You do not do that and that is your business if you only prefer to just report you were 5-5, like in my example above. If you don't want to let us know exactly how much each of your bets are just come out and say that instead of telling us the day after the games have been played. We are all adults and can accept that answer and we will then know exactly why your results will or can always be different than our results.

Is it possible for you, at the very least, to let us know what the amounts of your regular bets vs. the different levels of your Top plays are in units? It would also be nice to know if you have bought any points on your wagers which is obvious that you have since none of your bets have hooks.

Thanks for your posts and thanks for maybe helping us a bit more by making the changes I mentioned.
 

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Love that Utah Valley play..How did you come up with that one??I grew up in Cali but lived in Utah last 24 years...Utah Valley is a scrappy team...The lines 3 now but I'll play it with you!!...BOL
 

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Love that Utah Valley play..How did you come up with that one??I grew up in Cali but lived in Utah last 24 years...Utah Valley is a scrappy team...The lines 3 now but I'll play it with you!!...BOL
Mostly due to the fact that Utah valley has won the last 2, while UT Arlington has lost on a long stretch now, and Utah valley has beaten them convincingly the previous 2 games last year. Thing they win this by 5+
 

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Pirate, I have been checking your thread for a long time. I don't follow you 100% and sometimes I even go against your picks (I took PROV yesterday against SJU). I also would never bet as many games as you do daily since the juice would eat me up. And I don't bet totals because I proved to myself years ago that I don't do well with them. I do handicap the games myself and between my bets and the ideas I get from your threads I do ok... not great but ok. So, reading your thread can be very helpful.

I know you have been questioned about the amount of each of your wagers. But none of your replies have cleared this up. You seem to only have two wager classifications: Top plays or regular plays (those not listed as Top plays). But then when you talk about your previous days results, you will sometimes make statements implying your Top plays can be of different levels. Now, I understand that for some reason you don't want to indicate how much each of your wagers are worth. But this is very important to us reading your threads.

I determine my winnings by including the juice on each bet. Meaning, for example, I can win 5 and lose 5 in a day and be a net loser (flat betting) because I count the juice lost on my winners and further reduce my winners if I buy any points--- that is my real world betting results. You do not do that and that is your business if you only prefer to just report you were 5-5, like in my example above. If you don't want to let us know exactly how much each of your bets are just come out and say that instead of telling us the day after the games have been played. We are all adults and can accept that answer and we will then know exactly why your results will or can always be different than our results.

Is it possible for you, at the very least, to let us know what the amounts of your regular bets vs. the different levels of your Top plays are in units? It would also be nice to know if you have bought any points on your wagers which is obvious that you have since none of your bets have hooks.

Thanks for your posts and thanks for maybe helping us a bit more by making the changes I mentioned.
I appreciate the critque. For a few reasons, as discussed here many times before, I'd rather not go into that much detail. I was doing units last year and stopped due to some other nonsense created by a few trolls. I will consider doing maybe a star rating at some point but in addition to capping each game and posting/tracking and putting everything together, it's a lot of time. And yes, I usually indicate when I buy a half as indicated by the -115-120 after each line where the hook was bought. I rarely play with a hook as with my the amount of my action,it happens more frequently, and smarter to insure against that. Thank you.
 

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Looked at what you posted and tried putting all together, takes time! as you said... This is what your 2024 record shows me... All plays, top to bottom... Ballpark figure

106-72 not including Jan-1st couldn't find?? You probably have exact numbers.

Hope this helps all naysayer.... 67%

Great capping!

I'll stay focused on UK and Da-Reds :cheers:

update on final four...
Houston (+130), Alabama (+200), Kansas (+220) and Purdue (+240) are the top favorites to make the Final Four. According to DraftKings Sportsbook, Kentucky's current odds are +1100.
 

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A couple things...your math is wrong, if that was his record it would be 60% (not 67%). His actual record for 2024 is 117-90, which is about 57%. Longer term, his overall plays are around 55%. 55% is very good, very few (if any) posters here hit that number long term. Great job PA
 

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A couple things...your math is wrong, if that was his record it would be 60% (not 67%). His actual record for 2024 is 117-90, which is about 57%. Longer term, his overall plays are around 55%. 55% is very good, very few (if any) posters here hit that number long term. Great job PA
I should clarify this is only NCAAB, I haven't tracked the others
 

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Pirate, I have been checking your thread for a long time. I don't follow you 100% and sometimes I even go against your picks (I took PROV yesterday against SJU). I also would never bet as many games as you do daily since the juice would eat me up. And I don't bet totals because I proved to myself years ago that I don't do well with them. I do handicap the games myself and between my bets and the ideas I get from your threads I do ok... not great but ok. So, reading your thread can be very helpful.

I know you have been questioned about the amount of each of your wagers. But none of your replies have cleared this up. You seem to only have two wager classifications: Top plays or regular plays (those not listed as Top plays). But then when you talk about your previous days results, you will sometimes make statements implying your Top plays can be of different levels. Now, I understand that for some reason you don't want to indicate how much each of your wagers are worth. But this is very important to us reading your threads.

I determine my winnings by including the juice on each bet. Meaning, for example, I can win 5 and lose 5 in a day and be a net loser (flat betting) because I count the juice lost on my winners and further reduce my winners if I buy any points--- that is my real world betting results. You do not do that and that is your business if you only prefer to just report you were 5-5, like in my example above. If you don't want to let us know exactly how much each of your bets are just come out and say that instead of telling us the day after the games have been played. We are all adults and can accept that answer and we will then know exactly why your results will or can always be different than our results.

Is it possible for you, at the very least, to let us know what the amounts of your regular bets vs. the different levels of your Top plays are in units? It would also be nice to know if you have bought any points on your wagers which is obvious that you have since none of your bets have hooks.

Thanks for your posts and thanks for maybe helping us a bit more by making the changes I mentioned.
Why does it even matter to you? If he bets $1000 (for talking purposes) on a top play. Are you going to bet $1000 on his top plays? You make his top plays a set amount that fits your play style (that’s whatever fits your budget if it’s only 150 then that’s what it is). When he has a regular play (let’s say for talking purposes) he bets $250 on a regular play. If you bet $150 on his top plays then maybe bet $75 on his regular plays. It makes no difference how much he bets on any given play. Even if it’s $20. He picks winners that’s what matters the most. Follow or don’t follow. I bet he doesn’t care if you follow his plays or not.

Good luck to everyone.
 

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I appreciate the critque. For a few reasons, as discussed here many times before, I'd rather not go into that much detail. I was doing units last year and stopped due to some other nonsense created by a few trolls. I will consider doing maybe a star rating at some point but in addition to capping each game and posting/tracking and putting everything together, it's a lot of time. And yes, I usually indicate when I buy a half as indicated by the -115-120 after each line where the hook was bought. I rarely play with a hook as with my the amount of my action,it happens more frequently, and smarter to insure against that. Thank you.
Ok thanks for your reply. I am aware this has been discussed many times before and that has been because you have never explained the exact differences in your amounts bet. If you were previously running into nonsense by being exact, it was with true trouble makers at that time not those asking now. I am also aware what you do takes a lot of time, but that shouldn't eliminate the need to be completely transparent. Everyone, especially those of us that do not post picks are aware you invest more time in performing your handicapping and posting those picks. Hell, it takes me a lot of time just doing my handicapping.... I don't have the time to post my picks.

I will not concern myself or bother you with this further. I do appreciate you telling us you will not tell us the amount of each of your bets. At least now we can take your record with a grain of salt, while they appear to be accurate on the number of bets won and lost, they are not accurate on actual amounts won or lost, in dollars/units, when taking into account juice.

Again, thanks for your posts, they are valuable and appreciated... you do present many bets that help us be winners. And thanks for also letting us know your stance on this subject.
 

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Ok thanks for your reply. I am aware this has been discussed many times before and that has been because you have never explained the exact differences in your amounts bet. If you were previously running into nonsense by being exact, it was with true trouble makers at that time not those asking now. I am also aware what you do takes a lot of time, but that shouldn't eliminate the need to be completely transparent. Everyone, especially those of us that do not post picks are aware you invest more time in performing your handicapping and posting those picks. Hell, it takes me a lot of time just doing my handicapping.... I don't have the time to post my picks.

I will not concern myself or bother you with this further. I do appreciate you telling us you will not tell us the amount of each of your bets. At least now we can take your record with a grain of salt, while they appear to be accurate on the number of bets won and lost, they are not accurate on actual amounts won or lost, in dollars/units, when taking into account juice.

Again, thanks for your posts, they are valuable and appreciated... you do present many bets that help us be winners. And thanks for also letting us know your stance on this subject.
Maddog: Why would it be very important to know the amount of PA's wagers? It is completely irrelevant .
You don't post your picks, your line, your units, your $amount. So I don't know what team to wager, how much to wager on the team that I don't know to wager on. Yet I somehow manage to persevere. PA provides his selections, and includes which he has a preference for.; that is all u need to know.
 

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Let's not forget Hawaii-1.5 at home versus Irvine. Total is 135.5

Hawaii beat up on small directional schools early on, but now floundering in league play against better talent than early on.

Not liking Hawaii, but interested in the under 135.5.

Your thoughts and analysis is much appreciated on this off the wall last game of the night.

Goodluck and Aloha!
 

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