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[font=Garamond, Times]Three senators embrace the "personal lockbox" to reform Social Security.[/font]
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Monday, June 20, 2005 12:01 a.m. EDT



The public is anxious about President Bush's reform of Social Security, and the idea is in trouble. Ceaseless pounding by liberals has driven many Republicans into a defensive crouch. It's time for some political jujitsu that will instead focus the public's attention on stopping Congress from spending the extra payroll taxes now flowing into Social Security on anything else. The only effective way to prevent that would be to take the money off the table by starting personal Social Security accounts for every American who wanted one.

That's why the White House should embrace an idea that three GOP senators will propose tomorrow. They want to seize back the moral and political offensive on the issue of personal accounts. By proposing the creation of personal "lockboxes" to ensure that the government can't raid Social Security taxes for other programs, they would force opponents to cast a vote against the idea that individuals should have ownership and control over some of their own retirement funds.

The idea has the potential to unite three separate strands of thinking in the GOP. One of its Senate sponsors is Jim DeMint of South Carolina, known as a free-market purist who believes personal accounts must be the centerpiece of reform. Another is Lindsey Graham, also of South Carolina, who has proposed increasing the cap on payroll-tax payments at the same time as personal accounts are created to supplement the system. And Pennsylvania's Rick Santorum is a noted leader of social conservatives who believe retirement reform must be family-friendly. All three men agree that while their proposal is not comprehensive and doesn't preclude other ideas to shore up the system, it represents a good first step.

Politically, their proposal does disarm some of the most oft-used arguments against reform. It would create no new debt for the government because, unlike President Bush's proposal, the personal accounts would use only the surplus payroll taxes now flowing into the Treasury. That surplus will hit some $85 billion next year, and grow in succeeding years to the point that it could provide every worker who wanted one with a personal account of some $1,200. The surpluses will total some $2.5 billion until 2017, when Social Security starts running a deficit as baby boomers begin to retire. Preventing that money from being "raided" by a spendthrift Congress and White House could be enormously popular with a cynical public.

In addition, if the personal accounts were limited to no-risk, but marketable, Treasury bills, the argument about the "scary and risky" stock market investment of payroll taxes would be neutralized. Converting the nonmarketable IOUs the government now holds into marketable Treasury bills issued to taxpayers would create an asset that individuals would own and be able to pass on to their heirs. If history is a guide, such risk-free Treasurys would earn an annual rate of return of between 2.5% and 3%--much better than Social Security will deliver. The surpluses would become real assets owned by citizens rather than government IOUs (or, more accurately, "I owe me's") piling up in a filing cabinet in West Virginia.



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The White House's initial reaction is positive. Presidential spokesman Trent Duffy says the new approach "is worth taking a look at. It does have a healthy personal-account feature. But the president also wants to address the underlying solvency problem." Another spokesman declined to say that Mr. Bush would refuse to sign a bill that addressed only one of his two concerns.



Sen. DeMint told me that he believes that once personal accounts "got off the ground, you would see them become enormously popular," and Congress would be compelled to find a way to reform the system to ensure their continuation after payroll tax surpluses dried up in 2017.

For his part, Sen. Graham told the Los Angeles Times he thinks protecting the Social Security surplus would eventually attract bipartisan support. "There's lots of public agreement that Social Security taxes should be used for Social Security benefits," he said. "This is a good, commonsense start to what will apparently be a long debate about solvency." Iowa's Chuck Grassley, chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, agrees. "The only negative about it is that it doesn't solve the Social Security solvency problem," he says. "But it breaks the ice on personal accounts."

On the House side, GOP leaders are working with the Free Enterprise Fund and other pro-reform groups on a similar bill they summarize as "Stop the Raid, Start the Personal Accounts." Rep. Bill Thomas, chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, told CNBC's "Kudlow & Co." last month that he was intrigued with the idea of using the payroll tax surpluses in a more productive way and combining that idea with steps to improve the financial position of private pensions. He wants to encourage more private savings and also create tax incentives for Americans to take out insurance to pay for long-term care costs, thus relieving the Medicaid program of one of its heaviest burdens.

Would the deficit increase if Congress used the Social Security surpluses to create personal accounts rather than finance current government spending? Not if Congress found the will to cut federal spending by roughly 3% a year. Even if they don't, the unavailability of the payroll taxes to fund other programs could be useful. As Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan told Congress in March, "One can credibly argue that [the trust funds] have served primarily to facilitate large deficits in the rest of the budget." He went on to argue that personal accounts would add to overall savings, which "in turn, would boost the nation's capital stock. The reason is that money allocated in the personal accounts would no longer be available to fund other government activities." In other words, once Congress couldn't get its mitts on the payroll tax money, it would be put to more productive use in the hands of individuals owning their own accounts.



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Not surprisingly, Democrats claim they have politically buried the notion of personal accounts and that it can't be revived by changing the subject to the Social Security surplus. "The Bush privatization of Social Security is still unacceptable to the American public," says Rep. Sander Levin of Michigan, a leading Democrat on the House Ways and Means Committee. "You can dress up the body in new clothes, but the body stays the same."



But Democrats privately worry that Social Security reformers could tap into a deep vein of public anger over how payroll tax surpluses have been spent on other programs. After all, Democrats have railed against the practice for years. Al Gore proposed his famous "lockbox" in 2000 to guard against the practice. Even before that Harry Reid, now the Senate minority leader, inveighed against the depletion of the trust funds by calling it "embezzlement, thievery." A recent poll taken by John Zogby for the Cato Institute found that by a 70% to 22% margin, voters believe that opponents of President Bush's proposals for Social Security reform have an obligation to address the issue and put out their own plan for reform. If Democrats choose to oppose even a plan that would ensure that Social Security surpluses are actually used for retirement, the political tables on this issue could still be turned.
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You wait and listen do the dems howl if that proposal comes up.

They are going to say the Pubbies are granstanding and this is such a fraud and an insult....(Thats when you know its true)

You wait mark my words.
 
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just seems wierd for him to be worried about this. only thing I can think of is they want to steal some more. SS there is no immediate problem, I really hope we can wait until we get a competent guy in there to handle this like McCain or whomever. The less this guy does, the better we're off since he cant seem to do anything right. like charlie brown.
 
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Here's the test for your so-called "Liberal Media". Let's see if they deride this idea proposed by Republicans like they did when Al Gore suggested it. I'm willing to bet anyone these ass clowns don't get half the grief Gore had leveled at him. Lets see the "Liberal Media" snigger and sneer at this idea now.
 
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Dumbass Ricky, when did Gore mention a personal lockbox owned separately by each recipient. He didn't. Only thing that idiot talked about was not touching the money except for future benefits and administrative costs. Personal lockboxes is a very scary thing for socialist wackjobs like yourself and Algore.
 
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Algore is a ranting, screaming over the lop lunatic. All Algore new about lockboxes were that they were bigger than a breadbox and smaller than a house. Yet, the wonder Prick tried pulling a Clinton by making love to the camera every time he said "Lockbox". He couldn't even win his home state of Tennessee - they hated him down there.
 
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Good to know neither of you clowns will ever need a colonoscopy since your heads are rammed so far up your asses you can watch the polyps as they grow.
 
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Jinn, Never did I hear big Al was open to a personal lock box idea? I do remember him tell old folks that Bush would steal SS and put them in his rich friends pockets for another day maybe but Al never once that I know bring up personal saving accounts?
 
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The Right Wing said:
Jinn, Never did I hear big Al was open to a personal lock box idea? I do remember him tell old folks that Bush would steal SS and put them in his rich friends pockets for another day maybe but Al never once that I know bring up personal saving accounts?
I have a "Personal Lockbox" now it's called a 401K. I'm in control and the government can't touch it(but I wouldn't bet on it). The only thing I need a lockbox for is the money I have paid into SS for 37 years.
 
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Ok I get your point on the 401K personal lock box, but I was thinking that you said Gore had this reform plan for personal accounts while running and that is false to my knowledge.SS reform is dying before it get's started and that is sad because there are solutions for this but what I have seen the Dems don't want this under Bush's watch.
 
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The Right Wing said:
Ok I get your point on the 401K personal lock box, but I was thinking that you said Gore had this reform plan for personal accounts while running and that is false to my knowledge.SS reform is dying before it get's started and that is sad because there are solutions for this but what I have seen the Dems don't want this under Bush's watch.
No one wants to go another 5 trillion dollars in debt to finance "personal accounts". Everyone wants a solution to the problem SS will have in 10 or twenty years but personal accounts do not address it. They are simply a way for Republicans to phase out a program they have hated from inception. They would much rather see old people dying of starvation in the streets.
 
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I just want reform and not overnight etc and never knew Repubs were so against it other than it's a problem somewhere down the road so lets get ahead of teh problem. Haven't read enough on how much it would cost to set up personal account but sure didn't cost me much for my health care to set up a seperate account etc. Maybe $2 a month for paper pushing.
 
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The Right Wing said:
I just want reform and not overnight etc and never knew Repubs were so against it other than it's a problem somewhere down the road so lets get ahead of teh problem. Haven't read enough on how much it would cost to set up personal account but sure didn't cost me much for my health care to set up a seperate account etc. Maybe $2 a month for paper pushing.
Check this out http://www.sscommonsense.org/
 
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Dumbass, the point is Algore NEVER mentioned personal lockboxes. That's what you said in your earlier incorrect post. Get a grasp of the issue before you start blabbering about it.
 
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The point is, and that I made, was that Gores proposition for a lockbox personal or otherwise was a good one. Preventing politicians from dipping into the trust fund to finance debt still needs doing. Gore was laughed at by the media for this suggestion. I'm just saying the so called liberal media will not criticize this idea with the gusto they used on Gore. Making my point that the liberal media isn't liberal at all.
 
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Jinn, You don't see that most media outlets are liberal based?
 
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The Right Wing said:
Jinn, You don't see that most media outlets are liberal based?
Absolutely not, they're money biased, pure and simple. The pundits that pass for journalists these days don't live in efficiency apartments in New York or DC they live in multi-million dollar Nantucket and Marthas Vineyard mansions. And if you think they will upset the powers that be by reporting anything political straight, you aren't paying attention.
That's why when George Stephanopoulos asks Condi Rice a question about the Downing Street Minutes she is allowed to ramble on several minutes about subjects unrelated and then is not asked why she didn't respond to the question.
Happens every week, just watch Meet The Press when Russert interviews a Republican they are always allowed to ramble without being asked a follow up question. Whereas most Democrats are grilled like they were on trial for murder.
 
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So you don't think the NY Times has an agenda?
 
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They're agenda is to make money for shareholders, accurate reporting be damned. If you are asking if they lean left, no I don't think so. If you can show me a majority of articles or editorials that support this contention I'm open minded.
 
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They vote overwhelmingly Democrat. Even if they "try" not to be biased, it'd be hard to keep their feelings out of all the news.
 

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