This race appears to be a lot closer than I thought it was (and this virus may play a huge roll)

[bodyforlife]

I will preface this post to say that I'm not going to waste my time with the 3-4 posters who monopolize this forum with their biased, one sided articles that are nothing but confirmation bias for them.

I'm finding that many of the polls in the battleground states are certainly within the margin of error. I tried to find out what the pollsters had done differently from their debacle in 2016, and about the only thing I could find is some are taking into account the education level of likely voters. Admittedly I wish they were more transparent about that.

What is interesting is that the Democrats are not hitting the 70% range on early voting (that is the number they traditionally need to lead by to feel comfortable saying they would win a state). Typically Democrats are outvoted by Republicans by at least a 2-1 margin on election day. And usually, the Democrats only way to combat that is to have a good ground game (i.e. knocking on as many doors as possible the week or two before election day, and helping to transport voters to the polls on election day). The problem is with Covid in play, very little of that will be going on.

Things are certainly getting interesting.

You can see some of the vote margins here

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/23/early-voting-numbers-swing-states-431363

 

[StevieRay]

Funny how fake news outlets push fear over rising covid cases and a week before elections all these increases

Planned?

Enemy of the people

 

[bodyforlife]

Funny how fake news outlets push fear over rising covid cases and a week before elections all these increases

Planned?

Enemy of the people

Which actually could work as a negative for the Democratic Party. Clearly the point of emphasizing covid cases right now is to make Trump look worse in his handling of the pandemic. But if Republican voters are less inclined to be as worried about the pandemic, that would give them an even better showing on election day (and they typically already outpace Democratic voters by a 2-1 margin).

 

[theDonger]

Funny how fake news outlets push fear over rising covid cases and a week before elections all these increases

Planned?

Enemy of the people

Is that like stoking fear over an ever closer group immigrant heading toward our southern border, then, after the election... POOF

No problem at all.

 

[MAGAking1]

Is that like stoking fear over an ever closer group immigrant heading toward our southern border, then, after the election... POOF

No problem at all.

People are entering US illegally all day every day...what are you talking about?

 

[StevieRay]

People are entering US illegally all day every day...what are you talking about?

Forgive him. Ate up with TDS

worse case I’ve ever seen.

Dafinch at least admits his

 

[theDonger]

People are entering US illegally all day every day...what are you talking about?

I'm talking about how, leading up to the 2018 midterms, all you heard about from Trump was an ever closer "caravan of murderers and criminals" heading to the southern border.

Manufactured outrage? Fear tactics? Stevie was just talking about the media manipulating the public re: COVID just before the election. Are you too stupid to see the connection?

BOTH SIDES DO IT. BOTH ARE CORRUPT.

I hope you're right, I hope after the election the clouds part and this virus goes away. But every day I read a new article about how hospitals are capacity as we head into a new surge of COVID cases. If hospitals are overwhelmed and people can't receive treatment, more people are going to die.

I hope to god i'm wrong and this is a big liberal, democrat, media hoax. If it is, I can guarantee a full plate of crow will be eaten and I will work my ass off to ensure another democrat is never elected ever again.

Guess we'll see.

 

[StevieRay]

Dong, a lot of its hype. My wife is over an ER on weekends , I play golf with doctors, have investors that are doctors and trust me, there is an agenda how controlled the msm and so called “experts” are with this

 

[theDonger]

Dong, a lot of its hype. My wife is over an ER on weekends , I play golf with doctors, have investors that are doctors and trust me, there is an agenda how controlled the msm and so called “experts” are with this

Perhaps in your neighborhood. Google "hospitals at capacity" and observe the results. Europe is starting to shut things down again as well.

And perhaps your'e right, it all goes away on November 4th. But what if, just what ifyou're wrong? I'm not too proud to admit i've been wrong before. It happens. If you're wrong, and we could have prevented more death and damage... then what? Blame it on the democrats?

 

[Hud477]

Funny how fake news outlets push fear over rising covid cases and a week before elections all these increases

Planned?

Enemy of the people

but ignore conflict of interest for a candidate riots looting and targeting of police.

 

[StevieRay]

Ireland said testing 30,000 + a day and stating all these cases

guy goes undercover to sight and only 20 workers there

no one being tested

posted and immediately taken down.

Cant find it anywhere

 

[theDonger]

but ignore conflict of interest for a candidate riots looting and targeting of police.

Trump's own FBI has officially stated that the violence and looting at these protests is being perpetrated by white supremacists, ANTIFA, and anarchists.

Why can't Trump acknowledge that there are very bad people on both sides?

 

[MAGAking1]

Trump's own FBI has officially stated that the violence and looting at these protests is being perpetrated by white supremacists, ANTIFA, and anarchists.

Why can't Trump acknowledge that there are very bad people on both sides?

Who said white supremacists are looting.
What white supremacist violence are you referring to?

What are you talking about? Umbrella man

 

[PoundFoolish]

Trump's own FBI has officially stated that the violence and looting at these protests is being perpetrated by white supremacists, ANTIFA, and anarchists.

Why can't Trump acknowledge that there are very bad people on both sides?

man, I hope you are joking. Are you a GROWN man?

 

[roadreeler57]

Funny how fake news outlets push fear over rising covid cases and a week before elections all these increases

Planned?

Enemy of the people

Thats good that will keep their voters away they are a lot of pussies....

 

[StevieRay]

man, I hope you are joking. Are you a GROWN man?

Yea. Not sure what world he living in

 

[MAGAking1]

Yea. Not sure what world he living in

DingDong from the world of Dung.

 

[savage1]

Whether one thinks that the polls are wrong and that Trump is really leading, or that Biden is still leading but by a much smaller margin,

lets just say that at his late juncture, if I was a Trump supporter, I would much rather prefer that the unanimity of the polls showed Trump winning by significant

margins than the opposite, which is currently the case.

 

[crudebar]

offering +180 on anyone that feels strongly Trump is going to win. BFL you could add more with me, with even better odds then you previously have gotten.

 

[theDonger]

Who said white supremacists are looting.
What white supremacist violence are you referring to?

What are you talking about? Umbrella man

Wray sought to make clear the scope of the threats the country faces while resisting lawmakers’ attempts to steer him into politically charged statements. When asked whether extremists on the left or the right posed the bigger threat, he pivoted instead to an answer about how solo actors, or so-called “lone wolves,” with easy access to weapons were a primary concern.

“We don’t really think of threats in terms of left, right, at the FBI. We’re focused on the violence, not the ideology,” he said later.

The FBI director said racially motivated violent extremists, such as white supremacists, have been responsible for the most lethal attacks in the U.S. in recent years. But this year the most lethal violence has come from anti-government activists, such as anarchists and militia-types, Wray said.

Wray also affirmed the intelligence community’s assessment of Russian interference in the November election, which he said was taking the form of foreign influence campaigns aimed at sowing discord and swaying public opinion as well as efforts to denigrate Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden.

Trump's nominee.

https://apnews.com/article/donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-archive-bdd3b6078e9efadcfcd0be4b65f2362e