This life long Raider fan is not falling for the bait. Oak -2.5 @ CHI

[3peet]

As good as my boys looked the past 2 weeks, the Raiders still have serious issues in the secondary. They can't stop TE's and anyone in the middle of the field. In their defense Chicago has started this season against a buzz saw. GB, AZ and SEA.

I think Vegas is setting up a trap. Not yet sold on the Raiders defense. Offensively, the Raiders are for real.

 

[sdf]

so....Jimmy Clausen is going to rip apart a defense?

:think2:

passing it to Forte perhaps.

Alshon should be back.

Not sure what to think Chicago will do....they didnt do anything on offense yesterday. Run Run Run. Short pass. Run run run Short pass

 

[NYMess]

plus Jared Allen was traded to Carolina

 

[awnp]

I agree 3peet. This smells like the Raiders reverting to form. Think of it as market correction for a team that's not as good as they've played recently. And I say that as a life long Bucs addict.

 

[varkeyboy]

Being a die hard Bears fan, stay the fuck away. Clausen absolutely sucks. Good luck....but a lot better games out there.

 

[Slurve~Ball]

2nd straight road game also. Forte gets 100+ rushing.

 

[3peet]

With all of the accolades the Raiders are getting they've still given up almost 1000 yards defensively in their last 2 games. 989 to be exact.

 

[3peet]

Btw, if Charles Woodson misses that INT, Cleavland sends that ge to OT

 

[duckhunter]

The only reason i would bet Chicago is that this will be Oakland's second straight road trip. Very tough for a West Coast team.

 

[cashflow50]

be very careful...Del Rio has got them believing. Stay far away from this game

 

[Kaveman]

With all of the accolades the Raiders are getting they've still given up almost 1000 yards defensively in their last 2 games. 989 to be exact.

They beat teams a combined 1-5, and got blown out by the one good team they faced. Not sold. See this as a PK game.

 

[BEERCAN]

Raiders will destroy the bears!

 

[powerz]

Raiders have Denver on tap

 

[TomandJerry]

Raiders have Denver on tap

That's why they will put 100% to win this one; easier than winning Denver. They all think "F the division game; We enjoy this one for now".

 

[TomandJerry]

OAK vs DEN before the Bye; prob a let down after 2 winning road games; still a thing to accomplish; better than looking ahead to Denver which is a "mission impossible"

 

[kid31]

No one has pointed out that the Bears just got done playing Seattle. Teams last year who followed up a game with Seattle were really poor. It's a different seattle team but the trend should be similar - outside the Packers who are just unreal.

 

[smartmoneyfollower]

If the bears lose this game by more then 3 TDs, they should just pack it in, and move to the CFL

 

[Biz]

Been a fan for 45+ years. When they suck, I readily admit it. This team has a different attitude, and better players than recent teams.

Chicago has played a tough schedule so far: Green Bay-H, Arizona-H, Seattle-A. Oakland considerably softer: Cincinnati-H, Baltimore-H, Cleveland-A. The Raiders rush defense has been pretty decent, not great but not awful. Its the pass defense that has struggled. the secondary just doesn't have the talent. Fortunately for them, Chicago can't throw the ball. The interior D-line has played well, and the LBs are much better than year's past.

The Chicago defense has not stopped the run very well: 133 yds 4.4/att, 115 yds 4.1/att, 159 yds 5.5/att. Latavious Murray is getting better and better, and the OL is getting better also. The WRs are MUCH better than previous years, when calling someone a number 2 receiver was a stretch. Crabtree gives them a solid #2, and although a rookie Cooper is a legitimate #1.

I look for Chicago to try and establish the run, and use short passes to limit the Oakland pass rush. On offense Oakland must stay out of 3rd and long situations. They did an excellent job of mixing up the play calling last week, using many different weapons on offense.

I think this game will be a low scoring struggle. Its an important game for Oakland, a game that an improving team with a losing pedigree needs to win. They have Denver on deck, and going into that game 3-1 will do a lot for their confidence, and will make them a relevant factor in the AFC West.

I think they make enough plays to win, but its tough to lay a FG on the road with them. I'm probably staying far away from this game, I have enough invested in this game as a fan. I don't need the added stress of a wager.

 

[TheOracle6]

A team that gets a taste of winning, after a decade of losing, begins to understand what it takes. Players and coaches work harder, and longer because there is no better feeling than winning. This raiders offense is the real deal thanks in part to having balance, one of the leagues best centers, and a QB that spreads the ball around. Both the Ravens and the Browns came out after the game and gave glowing reviews of Carr, Cooper, the coaching staff, the game plan, and more.

Chicago has played 3 very good teams to start the year, and, while they haven't looked great, there have been some bright spots. This Bears coaching staff is much better than the previous by a big margin. John Fox is the master at quick Turnaround's, and he always gets his guys to play hard for him. Matt Forte is finally being utilized the way he should of been all along. Alshon Jeffery is back for this game, which should really help the offensive production.

I think this game is going to be a very close game from start to finish. The raiders have a tough time with athletic tight ends, and with quick slot receivers. The raiders have been alright against the run, buy they have not seen a RB the caliber of Forte yet.

Chicago has struggled defensively, but have played 3 of the top offenses in the nfl, all of them with top 10 QB's. When I watch the film, much of the time they were just beat by great execution by a great QB. Derek Carr is the real deal. Amari Cooper beat all pro CB joe Haden like he stole something. Carr is spreading the football around and has multiple guys that can make plays. RB Latavious Murray is built like a good RB and he runs hard and seldom coughs up the rock. I really like this raiders offense. I wish Carr didn't attemp that week 1 stiff arm bc I think that it would've been a game!! However these guys are still young and are inevitably going to make mistakes, but I really like this unit.

Ultimately I think I will probably stay away from this game unless public overreaction pushes the line into some value. After factoring in Cutlers injury and home field advantage ive got oakland -3, but bc I haven't seen the bears play an average team yet I feel like this is a trap game. Lots of raiders fans will likely push this line a bit. Bears could have nice value by kickoff.

 

[buda21711]

Die hard bears fan here....the fire sale for draft picks has started this week....they are bad...REALLY bad....promoting players form the practice squad to play this week....I don't give them a chance..weather should be 60 degrees and perfect....I'm in 1st place in a 150 person confidence points pool and penciled in OAK for 12. BOL all.....At least we have the beloved Cubs!:aktion033