This is an eye wittness version of the Faux heros story.

[PatPatriot]

This guy was on chris Matthews last nite.

He said he was in a group of swift boats. One of the boats hit a mine.It threw 3 guys off the boat.When this happned,Kerrys boat accelerated and ran when it did it knocked the guy who Kerry saved later off the boat.(The guy was a special forces guy)LMAO.
What this guy on TV said was when the shit hits the fan like that you are supposed to circle the wagons so to speak....Kerry and his boat ran and when he came back he picked up the guy who he knocked out of the boat in the first place.The other 3 guys that were blown out of their boat by the mine were picked up by the other boats in the area...uuhmmm no medals for those guys it was their job...Kerry puts HIMSELF in for the medals.

His first purple heart..
This is the story, a grenade from his boat was thrown into a San pan full of rice..he didn't get low enough and caught some heavy shrapnel...errrr would you believe rice in the ass.Thats what other veterans have signed sworn affadavits for.

 

[jointpleasures]

Is John Kerry a vietnam vet?

 

[wilheim]

The GOP's war against Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry's Vietnam record has a history. It began in 1971 when the Nixon administration tapped another Vietnam veteran, John E. O'Neill, to form an organization called Vietnam Veterans for a Just Peace to discredit Kerry, then a freshly minted antiwar protester. Now a new group, called Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, which has O'Neill on its steering committee as well as other members with ties to the Republican Party, is rolling out a $500,000 ad campaign in swing states Wisconsin, Ohio and West Virginia to attack the Massachusetts senator's war record.

The GOP has no monopoly on deceptive tactics. But the smear campaign against Kerry relies on highly dubious accusations to sow doubts about a well-documented military record.

It's a strategy that has worked in the past. Despite his own murky stint in the National Guard, President Bush did not hesitate to allow GOP operatives to distort Republican Sen. John McCain's Vietnam POW years during the 2000 South Carolina primary by claiming that being a captive wasn't a heroic action, like actively attacking the enemy. At a campaign rally for Bush on Feb. 3, 2000, veteran Tom Burch even declared that "Sen. McCain has abandoned the veterans. He came home and forgot us." This despite McCain's tireless efforts to discover if there were any missing Americans remaining in Vietnam. Then there was the GOP's depiction of then-Georgia Sen. Max Cleland during the 2002 midterm election as soft on terrorism — not to mention far-right columnist Ann Coulter's preposterous claim that it was Cleland's own fault that he lost three limbs in Vietnam because he mishandled a grenade.

Now Kerry is coming in for similar treatment. For example, a column by the conservative National Review's Byron York raised the question of whether the wound that Kerry suffered in December 1968 was really serious enough to qualify him for his first Purple Heart, which with two other Purple Hearts "allowed" Kerry, as York puts it, to leave Vietnam "before his tour of duty was finished." Doesn't Kerry's bold action in beaching his Swift boat, grabbing his M-16 and directly attacking Viet Cong soldiers firing at him and his mates indicate bravery? Apparently not. The new ad of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth depicts Kerry, like Cleland, as an irresponsible bungler. No evidence supports this, and McCain denounced the ad campaign Thursday.

Eyewitness accounts of Kerry's actions show that he acted with decisiveness and, yes, courage. Sure, Kerry evokes his Vietnam service with metronomic regularity and skates over his later opposition to the war. His denunciation of the Vietnam War in 1971 Senate testimony and his antiwar activities are fair game for his opponents. So are his dovish Senate foreign policy stands. But his war record is not.


LA Times Editorial

 

[bblight]

Jesus Wil, give it a break!

This is a bunch of Vietnam Vets against Kerry - not the GOP. Kerry is an opportunist and a liar, plain and simple!

I understand that you hate Bush - but he is still YOUR president - so get over it, grow up, and start acting like an American and not a Frenchman!

You and your diatribes against Bush are getting very old very fast! Try something new - a new tact, maybe writing something of you own rather than all of this copy and paste crap. Try pursuing the truth!

Either that, or take some Rx Kaopectate and shut up for a weekend!

 

[wilheim]

 

[GAMEFACE]

I would say the Kerry a war hero has been proven false. Game, set, match. Kerry should STFU about it. Kerry receive purples heart for no injuries (he did not spend a day in the hospital, didn't even miss a day of work). Kerry got out of Vietnam in 4 months with the fake purple hearts. Kerry admitted to commiting war crimes, which he has never had to answer for. I've seen the guys that have come forward it's rear admirals, LT's, LT Col., many officers. I believe them over a word Kerry says.

 

[bblight]

Now that's more like it!

 

[bblight]

Gameface - I have a real distrust for officers that I got in Vietnam - so please throw a few enlisted men in that group.

Thanks,

 

[wilheim]

Blight what would you know about combat? Another in the rear with the gear grounded flyboy.

Airman Blight poses for friends before a tuff day in the Nam jungle.


wil.

 

[bblight]

Wil, my uniform wasn't that pretty!
But I like those boots - could use them when I'm trying to wade throught the shit you're posting!