Theory - Why the US is in Iraq.

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You have no idea what is about to take place in the ME do you? Do you actually believe the US is in Iraq due to the WMD or even regime change? The US is in Iraq for one reason and one reason only. We are there for the purpose of pre-positioning troops for the war that is about to erupt in the ME. We are there to act as a buffer between Israel and Iran. We are there for stategic postioning. While Israel is dealing with Syria, Lebanon and Egypt we will be in a very good position to take out Iran, Saudi and Yemen. Why do you think we have troops in Georgia, UAE and Qartar? What is happening right now is purely a stategic positioning. Afghanistan was a retalitory attack. Iraq was a strategic one.

From poster in It's happening.com general forum.
 

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When I saw the title of the thread I thought it would be a picture of a chick with big knockers.

Anyway, I think the idea is far-fetched because relations are fine with every country in the ME except the "Axis of Evil" of Iraq, Syria and Iran. The poster is either paranoid or has an overactive imagination IMO. Wars with Syria and Iran are quite conceivable of course but they will not be so maticulously pre-meditated as this guy likes to think.
 

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I believe that WAS the plan, but the Iraqi war is taking way too long. There is no way the American people would go along with another one.
The only way they could fight another one is to start dropping nukes.
I think they blew their chances with their lies. Now a lot of people see right thru them.There would have to be something huge to happen to rally the public.(which we cant really put past them, so you just never know)
 

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i`ll take a whack at it....

let me preface my opinion by stating that the administration could never explain their reasoning for removing saddam by using rationale like the safety and security of the middle eastern oil supply and the security of israel.....the two are inexhorably linked....

it`s just not a politically correct enough reason to remove saddam...therefore,could not be put forth in a public forum...




i made the point in another thread....like israel or not,they are a democracy and our biggest ally in the region.....israel does have nuclear weapons....they have not used them,even though gravely provoked....

saddam hussein is on record as saying,"my biggest mistake was not having nuclear weapons when going into kuwait"...if he`d had them,he`d probably still be in kuwait....and maybe other middle eastern countries.....if you check your history,you`ll find that the iraqi`s were frantically trying to complete their french provided nuclear reactor "osirak" or "tammuz 1" in the late 80`s or early 90`s....luckily the israeli`s took the reactor out before it went hot....basically saving 1000`s of iraqi lives.....

understand that if the israeli`s hadn`t taken out that french built iraqi nuclear reactor in the 80`s,there would have been nuclear weapons thudding into israel,not poorly guided scuds during the gulf war.....and as i said,about 3 hiroshima-sized nuclear bombs would pretty much annihilate a small country like israel....

make no mistake....a big part of our decision to take saddam out,is rooted in the continued existence and safety of israel......and probably more so by the potential global catastrophe that an all out middle eastern war would cause......yes,the oil.....it`s about the oil....and that`s about as good a reason as there is in this world...

these things were seen as being jeopardized by the one dictator in the middle east crazy and ballsy enough to willingly try to offest the delicate political balance in the middle east...the one that invaded kuwait...the one that gassed his own people.....the one that tried to destroy the kuwaiti oil fields and cause economic and ecological disaster when he was driven out of kuwait..

a quick read...


Wednesday, 4 October, 2000, 13:35 GMT 14:35 UK
Saddam threatens Israel



Palestinian killings have enraged Iraqis

By Middle East correspondent Frank Gardner
""Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein has said his country could destroy Israel if it was given access to land next to the Jewish state.

On Wednesday, Iraq's state controlled newspapers carried the president's threat, which he made following the recent bloody clashes between Israelis and Palestinians.

Iraqis are calling the threat one of the strongest statements by Saddam Hussein in years.

An idle boast or a serious threat to Israel? With Iraq's unpredictable leader, it is hard to tell.

The government controlled press quoted the president as saying Iraq could put an end to Zionism in a very short time if only it was given a piece of land next to Israel.

That is highly unlikely to happen, but Iraq did physically attack Israel during the Gulf War nine years ago by firing 39 Scud missiles at the Jewish state.

Iraqis say the clashes over the last few days between Israeli forces and Palestinians have enraged their president.

Angry outburst

On Tuesday he was seen on television banging his fist on the table in anger, criticising Arabs for not doing enough in response to Israeli killings in the Palestinian territories.

He said the great people of Iraq were ready to destroy Zionism right now and he called on Arabs to brandish their swords and make the sacrifices needed.

Iraq has also been calling for a holy war to liberate Jerusalem from Israeli control. President Saddam Hussein has said Iraq did not need to wait for sanctions to be lifted before striking Israel.

The United States says it closely monitors Iraq for any signs of military activity, but United Nations inspectors looking for Iraq's alleged weapons of mass destruction have not been in the country for nearly two years now.""

saddam has wanted to lead the middle east against the infidels...he called himself "the sword of nebuchadnezar"



the world is becoming rife with black market nuclear processing material and some say,actual nuclear weapons(the soviet union cannot account for all of their cold war weapons)....n. korea has already been caught secretly shipping missiles to terrorist nation yemen on unmarked vessels....unfortunately,the world`s hands are somewhat tied because n. korea HAS a nuclear capability....that fact changes the whole dynamic...

if saddam`s reactor hadn`t been taken out prior to the gulf war,and the u.n. still chose to extract him from kuwait,israel would most definitely have been hit with nuclear weapons.....thus,bringing retaliatory strikes with nuclear weapons from israel....thus opening the middle east up to a full scale arab vs israeli conflict,fecking up half the world`s oil supplies,and possibly creating a global catastrophe.......the guy has proven he`s willing to do what your average despot will not do.......


it`s not hard to understand the rationale for removing saddam...agree or not,there was some reason for their thinking...why they did what they did....but,it was poorly planned...the aftermath,i mean.......


the whole world thought that saddam had the weapons..he never came clean......i guess they thought that if you can`t assuredly get the knife away from jack the ripper....then you have to get rid of jack....

you may not agree..hell,i`m still not sure i agree....you may be jew-haters,anti-american,anti-bush administration or just flat out anti any war..you may not want to hear this..that`s your right....



.the france`s and germany`s did what they did because it was in their own their own economic and political interests and are obviously trying to bolster old european influence under the cover of the toothless u.n.....we now find that the oil for food program meant to take the heat off iraqi sanctions was probably rife with u.n. payoffs,kickbacks and bribery....france,russia and germany were more than a little dishonest about their less than altruistic reasons for stonewalling u.n. efforts at making saddam come clean about wmd`s....


bottom line is,the administration chose to stop this show before it got to the breaking point....saddam was a monster,as are many others around the world....but he has demonstrated the instability necessary to cause a full scale middle eastern and global conflict.....

was it a good move?....history will be the judge...



i agree that everything that happened after the saddam statue fell was poorly planned and because of the administration`s lack of foresight,this thing has turned into an ungodly mess....but,i think it`s way to premature to state as fact that saddam had no wmd`s.....

whatever....the question was "why is the u.s. in iraq".....

just trying to opine a bit....
 

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...probably was a good thing that Saddam's nuke plant was bombed out, if nothing more than the fact that had Israel been levelled with 2 or 3 nukes, the United States would have been the first on the scene and subjected itself to the cost of rebuilding Israel, like it has done in the past concerning other country's wars and misfortunes....

Instead of coddling these Israelis why don't we just make them the 51st state, then at least we could tax these fukkers and get some of our foreign aid back.
 

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The US is in Iraq for one reason and one reason only


Because while you americans spend a lot of time finding out the cure for the fatty chompers you are... others like china and ME are spending (investing) harvesting, researching, in other ways of energy...,,, now remember why u americans became so rich... cauze in the beggining when europe where having the I and II war, you americans were harvesting and researching about new ways of energy.. and selling it... but nowadays, what you are doing is buying an expensive way of energy... disposing a whole country while those ASIANS are developing hibryd cars that europe/asia/africa/ME and even latinamerica
are waiting for buy them!


P.S. what's the Deal between The Bushes and China... think about it...
 

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