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So. After 2 years of being a political prisoner of the USA, of being squeezed daily by the most powerful nation on earth, it is now politically expedient to declare them semi human.
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US court grants Guantanamo rights

Detainees being held by the US military at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba should have access to lawyers and the US court system, a federal appeals court has ruled.
The court said their detention was contrary to US ideals.

It did not accept that the US Government had "unchecked authority".

The ruling relates to the case of a Libyan national captured in Afghanistan and currently being held at Guantanamo.

About 660 people are currently being held as "enemy combatants" at the base.

"Even in times of national emergency... it is the obligation of the judicial branch to ensure the preservation of our constitutional values and to prevent the executive branch from running roughshod over the rights of citizens and aliens alike," said the ruling by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals.

It added it could not accept the position that anyone under the jurisdiction and control of the US could be held without "recourse of any kind to any judicial forum, or even access to counsel, regardless of the length or manner of their confinement".

The decision comes shortly after another US federal appeals court ruled that US authorities did not have the power to detain an American citizen seized on US soil as an "enemy combatant".

That ruling, by the US Second Circuit Court of Appeals, related to the case of so-called "dirty bomb" suspect Jose Padilla.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3332633.stm

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Until they are criminals or POWs, they are political prisoners.

[This message was edited by eek on December 18, 2003 at 05:22 PM.]
 

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Sorry to disapoint you eek, but this decision was merely an academic exercise by the 9th "Circus" Court of Appeals.

You see earlier this year the Circuit Court of Appeals in Washington DC ruled that the detainees were not entitled to legal representation and the case was appealed to the US Supreme Court (which has yet to hear the case).

So today's decision is meaningless and not enforceable unless the Supreme Court overturns the DC court's previous ruling. It will take some months for the Supreme Court to decide the case.

The decision on the Padilla case decided by the NY Circuit Court today will in all liklihood be stayed until the US Supreme Court hears that case as well.

So I wouldn't start crowing yet. My guess is that the Padilla decision will be upheld only because he is a US citizen, but the detainess will lose because they are non-US citizens, captured during a war and have never set foot in the US.

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Just don't let it happen again.
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"Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man." - The Dude, 1998
 

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Eek, I thought you would love the BBC. They are anti-American, anti-Israel and pro-Islam.

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Its called balanced reporting Floyd.

Its a new concept used by those advanced countries that don't have political prisoners.

It takes a bit of getting used to if you've only ever been exposed to Government approved newsagencies.
 

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Ooooh that hurt Eek. You talking about the same Great Britain that invented concentration camps??

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Eek you have finally entered the "Grantt Zone" where anyting against America printed on a bumper sticker is real.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by eek:
Its called balanced reporting Floyd.

Its a new concept used by those advanced countries that don't have political prisoners.
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Nonsense, balanced reporting is no more a new concept than is the concept of Habeas Corpus, which was determined to be of such importance that it was written into the US Constitution. http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/mod/1679habeascorp.html
 

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