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They may serve some good in some instances, but they have no credibility when it comes to keeping the peace.


180 Congo Refugees Massacred in Burundi
By ALOYS NIYOYITA
Associated Press Writer

BUJUMBURA, Burundi (AP) - Dozens of attackers raided a U.N. refugee camp in western Burundi, shooting and hacking to death at least 180 people, witnesses and local officials said Saturday.

A Burundian Hutu rebel faction claimed responsibility for the attack late Friday near the Congolese border, saying its fighters were in pursuit of Burundian soldiers who fled to the camp from a nearby army position.

The assailants screamed war cries as they rushed into the camp and set it ablaze, local official Louis Niyonzima told The Associated Press.

The camp sheltered Congolese ethnic Tutsi refugees, known as the Banyamulenge, who fled fighting in Congo's troubled border province of South Kivu, Niyonzima said.

``What we have seen so far are many, many, many bodies of children, women and men,'' Eliana Nabaa, spokeswoman of the U.N. mission in Congo said. ``People were sleeping when the attack happened. People were killed as they tried to escape.''

``The scene is absolutely horrific. There are many people burnt,'' Nabaa said by telephone from Bukavu, capital of South Kivu. She said the attackers were well armed and organized.

Isabelle Abric, spokeswoman for the U.N. mission in Burundi, said 159 people were killed on the spot and 101 others were wounded in the attack on the camp in Gatumba, 12 miles from the Congolese border. At least 30 of the wounded died later in hospital, she said.

The bloodshed in the camp came after gunmen attacked a Burundian army position about a half-mile away.

``These guys were armed with grenades, machetes, and automatic weapons. While the attack was going on they were beating drums,'' said Fernando del Mundo, a spokesman for the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees in Geneva.

Pasteur Habimana, spokesman for the National Liberation Forces, justified the assault on the camp by saying Burundian soldiers were hiding there after the attack on the post.

``We were also attacked by armed Banyamulenge militiamen who lived in this camp,'' he said. ``The camp was a genuine Banyamulenge militiamen headquarters.''

Habimana earlier said the victims were killed by Burundian soldiers who fled into the refugee camp to escape the rebel assault.

A spokesman for the Burundian army could not be immediately reached for comment.

The National Liberation Forces is the last main rebel movement fighting the government in Burundi's 10-year-old civil war, which has killed some 260,000 people.

War broke out in 1993, when Hutus took up arms after Tutsi paratroopers assassinated the country's first democratically elected president, a Hutu. Burundi's Tutsi minority has effectively run the country for all but a few months since independence in 1962.

Burundian President Domitien Ndayizeye visited the camp Saturday and described the massacre as ``a shame'' and asked the Congolese government to assist in investigations.

``What I can say is that it is Burundi which has been attacked. The attackers killed innocent refugees who sought refuge in Burundi,'' Ndayizeye said. The rebels ``declared that they attacked a military camp and that the soldiers fled in this camp but I saw no soldier's body except those of young children, women and old persons.''

The attack occurred one day after Congolese Vice President Azarias Ruberwa visited the camp to encourage the refugees to return home.

In the Congolese capital, Kinshasa, government officials were heading into meetings Saturday to discuss the killings. They had no immediate comment.

United Nations officials are studying whether the attack was carried out with the assistance of Congolese tribal fighters known as the Mayi Mayi or Rwandan rebels based in eastern Congo, she said.

The Rwandan insurgents include members of the former army and the extremists Interahamwe militia who fled to Congo after playing a key role in the 1994 genocide in Rwanda.

More than 500,000 minority Tutsis and political moderates from the Hutu majority were killed in the 100-day slaughter organized by the extremist Hutu government then in power.

A renegade Congolese army commander - whose troops briefly seized Bukavu in June over complaints that Banyamulenge kinsmen were targeted by Congolese authorities - said the attack in Burundi proved his charges. But he stopped short of threatening retaliation.

Renegade Brig. Gen. Laurent Nkunda, accused the Congolese army of letting attackers of the Burundi operate in its zone unchallenged.

``This event proves me right,'' Nkunda said by telephone. ``This confirms that there's an extermination plan against the Banyamulenge.''

Rwandan President Paul Kagame, speaking in the Rwandan capital, Kigali, said the massacre ``proves what we have been saying over time, that there have been incidents that are ignored by the international community and the U.N. where people are being killed in eastern Congo, being targeted for who they are.''

The massacre will further complicate U.N. efforts to encourage Congolese refugees to return home, said M'Hand Ladjouzi, head of the U.N. mission in Congo's troubled North Kivu province.

``This is a setback in our efforts to ensure security here,'' Ladjouzi said. ``We are trying to find out who did this. Their aim is to complicate the situation. Obviously, they did this to stop all the efforts the international community is making.''
 

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"I'm an internationalist. I''d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."
- John Kerry
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> "I'm an internationalist. I''d like to see our troops dispersed through the world only at the directive of the United Nations."
- John Kerry

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UN Statement: Annan 'concerned' about condition of Al-SadrUnited Nations/Secretary General/Office of the Spokesman ^ | August 13 |



UNITED NATIONS, Aug 14: United Nations Secretary-General Kofi Annan Friday offered the world body's help to end the current fighting in Iraq, particularly in the holy city of Najaf, in a statement issued by his spokesman.
The statement said that Mr Annan was deeply saddened by the violence and especially concerned about reports on the condition of Said Moqtada Al-Sadr, a Shia Muslim cleric who was wounded according to some reports.

"The secretary-general reiterates his appeal to all concerned to show the utmost restraint in these difficult circumstances," a statement issued by his spokesman said. The Secretary-General has made clear his position that force should always be a last resort. The UN is dedicated to the principle of the peaceful settlement of disputes."

It added that Mr Annan continued to attach great importance to the establishment of the widest possible consensus among Iraqis in support of a peaceful political transition.

"The UN remains committed to doing everything possible to assist the Iraqi people to that end, and stands ready to extend its facilitating role in helping to resolve the current crisis, if this would be helpful," the statement declared.

Mr Annan's Special Representative for Iraq Ashraf Jehangir Qazi of Pakistan arrived in Baghdad on Friday and met the prime minister and other leaders of the Iraqi interim government.
 

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So do you suppose we should send troops to the Congo as well to solve these problems? Funny how you bash the UN, but lets face it secretly the Bush administration and EVERY administration loves them. Why bother sending US troops to places with no oil when they can convince some peaceniks from Europe to do it? Keep bashing them and then that will be yet one more burden the US would need to address.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by WildBill:
Why bother sending US troops to places with no oil when they can convince some peaceniks from Europe to do it? Keep bashing them and then that will be yet one more burden the US would need to address. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

What a tiresome argument...does South Korea have oil? Germany? Italy? Britian? Japan? Afghanistan? I really don't care what the Bush administration thinks...the UN is a paper lion that creates just as many problems as it solves when it comes to 'keeping the peace' between two warring parties.
 

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Let someone else keep the peace in Burundi, and every other shithole for that matter.....

We don't need a sequel to Blackhawk Down.
 

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No shotgun, those places are our big business partners. You know, just closing your eyes to the problem spots of the world, including the ones without "vital national interests" won't make them go away. Having an UN, warts and all, is far superior to just letting the problems fester wherever they may be.
 
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If the UN is disgusting then can you suggest a better way to resolve international disputes. Power politics just isn't the way.
 

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This has been going on for hundreds of years. The only difference is that now there are reporters taking pictures and bringing these images into our homes. Why not leave them to it and let them slaughter each other? It keeps the population down and means there is less starvation. Why the hell should American or European troops interfere and put their lives at risk for a bunch of ungrateful bastards who don’t know the meaning of civilisation?
 

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"Fester" like the problems in Africa? How long has that crap gone on...decades? The UN is useful only because the developed countries in the world can delegate its responsibilities without being held accountable for the results. Do you truly believe that without UN involvement, Africa would be left to rot like it is now?

The organization is corrupt and useless. The "better than nothing" argument means that "nothing" would be the alternative...that isn't true at all. It would simply mean the United States, France, Germany et al would need to be a bit more pro-active in its involvement.
 

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