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As I sit here 7 years after 9/11 I'm struck with just how successful it turned out to be in ruining our economy and our standing with the rest of the world. The idea was to cripple our economic system and send a message. It worked.

1) The braindead FED slashed rates so fast and sharp as to help foster the worst housing bubble in world history. The effects of which, with poor oversight to boot, are in the process of disintegrating the banking system and ruining our currency. There is no way rates would've come down as fast and as hard if 9/11 hadn't happened.

2) Our weakened currency has driven up the costs for things like food and energy. Even in the face of the oncoming deep recession, costs are going up and will continue to because our currency is dogshit.

3) Why is it dogshit? Well war is one reason. I'm not into whether we should be there or not, let's simply look at the result. 9/11 happens and sends this country into wars in Iraq and Afghanistan costing ultimately trillions of dollars. That money has to come from somewhere. And its you and I borrowing it while we devalue the dollars we already have.

4) Those wars have actually impacted oil production and in the region and caused prices to go higher, not lower....further hurting the economy.

5) Our standing with the rest of the world has been hit hard as America has never been viewed as negatively as it is now. Sympathy after 9/11 has turned into disgust.

So what to make of it? Well I only see worse times ahead for this country no matter who the next president is. The slow motion train wreck which is our economy and the banking system as a whole is picking up speed currently. This is not someone who is a glass half empty person. This is someone who sees what has happened and sees where this is going. There are no quick fixes here. The real question is whether we end up in a Great Depression style deflation or a Germany post WWI style hyperinflation....maybe a bit of both. But make no mistake, 9/11 was the starting point for all of this. And people shouldn't forget that.
 

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Excellent post VT. Very refreshing despite it's ominous prognosis for the US.

As I sit here 7 years after 9/11 I'm struck with just how successful it turned out to be in ruining our economy and our standing with the rest of the world. The idea was to cripple our economic system and send a message. It worked.

1) The braindead FED slashed rates so fast and sharp as to help foster the worst housing bubble in world history. The effects of which, with poor oversight to boot, are in the process of disintegrating the banking system and ruining our currency. There is no way rates would've come down as fast and as hard if 9/11 hadn't happened.

2) Our weakened currency has driven up the costs for things like food and energy. Even in the face of the oncoming deep recession, costs are going up and will continue to because our currency is dogshit.

3) Why is it dogshit? Well war is one reason. I'm not into whether we should be there or not, let's simply look at the result. 9/11 happens and sends this country into wars in Iraq and Afghanistan costing ultimately trillions of dollars. That money has to come from somewhere. And its you and I borrowing it while we devalue the dollars we already have.

4) Those wars have actually impacted oil production and in the region and caused prices to go higher, not lower....further hurting the economy.

5) Our standing with the rest of the world has been hit hard as America has never been viewed as negatively as it is now. Sympathy after 9/11 has turned into disgust.

So what to make of it? Well I only see worse times ahead for this country no matter who the next president is. The slow motion train wreck which is our economy and the banking system as a whole is picking up speed currently. This is not someone who is a glass half empty person. This is someone who sees what has happened and sees where this is going. There are no quick fixes here. The real question is whether we end up in a Great Depression style deflation or a Germany post WWI style hyperinflation....maybe a bit of both. But make no mistake, 9/11 was the starting point for all of this. And people shouldn't forget that


Meanwhile some of the so called brilliant minds contributing to this forum are more concerned about making posters like Doc someone's bitch over a completely moot and meaningless issue regarding the order of names in an old lawsuit. Hard to believe where some priorites lay.


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good post

sadly, it will likely get worse than better

one needs to plan ahead, while they still have a chance

storing extra food, fuel, cash, precious metals, gun & ammo....especially if others rely on you.
 

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But make no mistake, 9/11 was the starting point for all of this. And people shouldn't forget that.<!-- / message -->

All the more reason we need to land on the beachhead of Iraq to fight them in the Middle East.

Just as we landed on North Africa to start fighting the Germans.

You can't lay down and wait while they take shots directly at us and our economy.

Thanks for illustrating what more Americans still need to learn.

Happy 4th of July!
 

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You guys had your chance in 2004...and blew it bigtime again.

If McCain gets in for the Repubs, I for one won't be surprised.
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VT, welcome back buddy. Good to see you here.

9/11 proved the status quo was not acceptable, that's for sure. We could no longer sit by and watch

9/11 changed things? no fucking chit man

9/11 and the Iraqi war increased the price of oil? NO
Oil supplies are constant, or increasing moderately. While oil demand is increasing at a much faster rate. For VT's theory to be correct, a decrease in supply would have to be responsible for increasing prices.

Furthermore, since the rate of increase in demand is expected to increase, there is a lot of concern about long term supplies meeting the need. Blaming 9/11 and / or the Iraqi war for higher oil prices is categorically wrong.

It seems our allies are electing pro-American leaders. I'm not the least bit concerned about our reputation, there are far too many good and smart people in the world.

Economic collapse? I think not, time will tell.
 

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Meanwhile some of the so called brilliant minds contributing to this forum are more concerned about making posters like Doc someone's bitch over a completely moot and meaningless issue regarding the order of names in an old lawsuit. Hard to believe where some priorites lay.


wil.


right Wil, that's the essence of our arguments :103631605


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Economic collapse? I think not, time will tell.

probably not, however the possibility exists

both Paul Volcker and Warren Buffet are on record as saying the current derivative-fueled financial crisis has the potential to be worse than the great depression

why risk it.......the wise man comes prepared
 

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