Sorry to burst this media sensations bubble but I just can't take everyone rating Elway as one of the greatest ever! Because of the great comebacks (which he put them in that predicament with his AWFUL play for 56 minutes) and the way he ended his career (probably on the most complete offence ever!) everyone thinks he's so great. Let's look and the numbers. First his drive. The drive would not have been necessary if he played better during the first 56 minutes, in which he had a QB rating of 50 with no tds and one pic completing less than 50% of his passes. Second when you compare him to his contemporaries, Montana, Marino, Young, Elway can't even hold their jockstraps! Elway had 8 1000 yard rushing seasons by a running back during his career but couldn't crack 80 (once) on the QB rating, until The Bronco were STACKED with talent. By comparison Montana had 4 1000 yard seasons Young 3 and Marino ONLY ONE!!! Yet these QBs stats destroyed Elway! Rings are a TEAM STAT not a player. Qbs don't play on defence or special teams. The 49ers had numerous seasons where their leading rusher did not even have 600 yards!!! Just because he was exciting to watch, big arm, risk taking does not make him great! Finally that Denver team was so stacked that even without Terrell Davis, Brian Griese led the league in passing and Jake Plummer made the pro bowl!!!! Everyone forgets how Elway played during the ENTIRE game in his famous comebacks, but only remember a small segment of the game. Good qb yes, one of the greatest ever...not even close!
Couldn't agree more!! All you have to do is count his rings. BTW it's called WINNING!!!
Rings mean jack. Put the skinny soft Brady back in Dan's playing time, he would not even start. Barry Sanders is also so overrated too right?? In his position, no one had his arm, strength, accuracy, and talent.
great points. The thing with team sports, is the word team. Rings don't mean shit when discussing greatest-of-all-time. Unless you are discussing greatest teams. Trent Dilfer has a ring so he must be better than Marino? Of course not.
Any individual sport you can make a case for the greatest-of-all-time based on how many gold medals he won or how many Golf tournament won.
There will never be a consensus of who the greatest QB, RB, baseball player, hockey player of all time will be but its 100% certain there will be several more threads about it. For the record, I think Elway is one of the greatest QB's to have ever played the game.
These sorts of discussions are almost always stupid
If anyone rates Elway as the very best QB ever, he is being vastly overrated. If anyone rates him much outside the top 10, he is being vastly underrated. To make a claim about someone being overrated or underrated without giving any hint about where he is rated is just pulling idiotic comments out of your ass and being willfully stupid
If anyone rates Elway as the very best QB ever, he is being vastly overrated. If anyone rates him much outside the top 10, he is being vastly underrated. To make a claim about someone being overrated or underrated without giving any hint about where he is rated is just pulling idiotic comments out of your ass and being willfully stupid
It's obvious to me you either don't understand or choose to ignore the meaning of an "NFL QB". Passing is just a part of it. It may be that DM was the best "passer", doesn't mean he was the best QB. Many old timers will tell us that Jurgenson was the best passer. Awareness, leadership, play under stress, etc, are a few of the things that make up an "all timer", Montana, Elway & Brady are my 3. And NEVER discount winning.
